Draft thread

What is going on with Gooddell? Is he sloshed? Did he have a stroke this morning?

 

I want to see the league hammer Philly and Atlanta for their tampering the way we were. That was a ridiculously harsh penalty for what was really a nothingburger.

 

Hopefully Chop plays well.

 

Bucky Brooks' opinion on nfl.com:

Chop Robinson EDGE, PSU
Height: 6-3, Weight: 254
I see Miami using Robinson as a rotational player early on. An A+ athlete, Robinson is a developmental prospect with first-step quickness and explosiveness but needs more consistency. -- by Bucky Brooks

 

Worthy to the Chiefs, that should be fun to keep an eye on. Interesting to see the Bills bailing.

 

Apparently Cousins is confused and questioning the Penix pick. There's also video of the Falcons GM doing what it looks like explaining himself to Arthur Blank. That's still the weirdest move of the day, just doesn't make sense for a team with that many needs.

 

Some posters in the Club mentioned that they might be anticipating losing their first round pick next year because of the tampering. With Cousins being at least serviceable in the regular season, this might have been the closest in range they would have been for a couple years.

 

Pash rusher whose biggest weakness is rushing the passer. Charles Harris 2.0.

I'm so sad.

 

Nah, the measurables blow Harris away. He has a ton of pressures, some refinement and those can turn into sacks. He has more potential in his pinky than Harris had total.

Wonder how much Buffalo is picking up in the trade downs, they are watching WRs zip right by them.

 

Penn State and dolphins fan Video scout from a Penn State site that does great analysis. Interesting watch. Helps explain the lack of statistical production. Twitchy Athlete.

 

He's talented but he's a risk. I'm so freaking tired of picking and signing risky players. Can't we just play it safe?

 

I get what you're saying, but even "safe" players bust, and not infrequently.

 

They do, but risky players bust more frequently.

 

Sometimes, players are better in the league than they were in college. Go back and redraft the first three rounds of any draft ever and you'll wonder why players like T.J. Watt lasted into the 30s. Heck, Vontaze Burfict didn't even get drafted, although mostly because he was a nut case. It depends on whether the light goes on. I'm still hoping that Weaver makes it click on for Channing Tindall.

 

When has that ever worked for us? Never.

 

Another year, another dud from Grier. Picking raw twitchy athletes that need to be developed in the early rounds is a bad strategy Grier has continually failed at. He is always gambling and taking high risk players thinking he is going to strike gold, but mostly ends up striking out.

 

omfg

 

Austin Clark seems to be a great DL coach. Just look at the improvement in Sieler and Wilkins.

Butch Barry somehow made the OL serviceable for most of last season with guys that aren’t talented.

 

He’s hit on 7 of his 9 first rounds picks, you are just *****ing for the sake of *****ing about Grier as usual. It’s getting tiring.

 

I’m optimistic about the pick as he is only 21 and has insane athleticism. He’ll be a situational pass rusher this year (and we could have really done with them down the stretch last year) that they will be hoping to coach up to take over from Chubb probably in 2 years time.

Like most I would have liked OL but Grier is consistent in picking expensive positions with those first round picks so was expecting either an edge or WR with this pick after the run on the tackles.

Really hoping they go interior OL at #55.

 

Not really excited about the player, good thing he doesn’t have injury history though. Hopefully they can coach him up, he’s definitely physically gifted and only 21. Would us have rather traded down after Verse and the OT‘s all gone.

 

Sorry, but we are nothing while Grier is GM.
He really needs to go.

 

He's hit on 7 out of 9 1st round picks and we have one of the most talented rosters in the league.

I'm totally unsurprised you hate the pick though but you seem to hate absolutely everything they do.

 

This is probably why they drafted him if you look at Robinson's RAS score, he's an insane athlete.

 

Not really a fan of this pick.I see this guy as another athletic freak who didn't produce against players that won't even be in this league.Meaning he doesn't know how to play this game at this level and might take a few years to develop in which this team is built to win now.How does this make us better for 2024 when Barton was sitting right there for us who could come right in and play in an area we need help with also?

 

I'm honestly with the hater Bot crew on this one. I don't like the pick, but I'm not the GM or a scout. I truly hope it works out, but I was hoping we'd go O Line with this pick. I'll hope for the best, I'm just a fan. Dion Jordan, Charles Harris...Grier needs to get this one right.

 

Grier didn't pick Jordan.

He also tried to trade back into the 1st round last night, perhaps to snag one of the offensive lineman. Let's see what happens tonight.

 

That’s called “trolling”.

 

Completely ignoring everything except what happened in the past with other players isn’t a great way to evaluate a draft or player. It’s lazy nonsense.
Guys that are over 250lbs and can run a sub 4.5 40 and have the athletic ability that Chop has are very rare. If you’re judging a player solely on sacks that, too, is lazy. ALL draft picks, from Trevor Lawrence to Tom Brady to Von Miller to whomever are picked based on projection. If a person doesn’t see the value or upside of picking a player like Chop they’re blind.

 

And he very well might be a good player down the line I just to see how it help us for this season.Pissed when the Ucla kid got drafted ahead of us.
I personally would have went Barton.our line is going to suck!

 

The disruption Chop brings to the defense can’t be overstated. He’s a guy with a very high motor and athletically he’s a freak. Over the past 2 seasons he’s one of only 4-5 defensive players that had a 20%+ win rate. He also led the Big 10 is QB pressure rate at nearly 20%.
He definitely needs to finish better, but if Chubb is gone after this season we will see a young JP and younger Chop on the edges. Chop has the ability to be a player that teams need to game plan for. And if we can get JP-like production from him, watch out.

 

I wanted Barton also. However, the draft isn’t done and there are still some good IOL out there. When the line was healthy last season they didn’t suck at all. And even when they did suck the play of Tua helped mask that. As of right now, with the expected starters, the oline should be as good as last season when healthy. If they can get one or two more of the OG’s still out there they’ll have the depth.

The good thing is, Chop may start next season as a situational player, but I think he’ll be ready to be a 3 down edge by the time Chubb is gone (most likely after this next season) And he’ll be on a rookie contract, unlike Chubb.

Beebe or Haynes are who I want with pick 55.

 

I don't see it.Hunt money aside was a really good guard and Williams was a stud center.
The line went to **** after they got hurt.

 

Losing both guys does suck, but if I remember correctly Brewer graded out as the top 10th center in the league last season in TN. And Chasen Hines is a good player. Hopefully Butch can coach both guys up. We definitely need to get another OLineman this draft.
Again though, I’m not too worried right now. If they completely ignore the position this draft I will be concerned.

 

Depends on what McDonald wants I think. As.much as Worthy was the headliner, reports were our people went to the UT proday primarily for Sanders.

Obviously OL is still possible, and with all the ones going in round 1, we may see the rest slip a bit. I wouldn't mind a big run on defense from all these early pickers that went offense in rd 1.