That's the same thing I saw. And if we'll agree that Mosley looked ready to go in the 6th, then why can't the best fighter in the world finish the job? It's not even like Mosley was competitive after the 2nd.
That was not "pressing". Mayweather stood his ground...which is a HUGE, Champagne popping, parade down Biscayne event for him. Which says alot. "Pressing" is cutting off the ring, moving forward, and increasing your punch out put to force the issue. Mayweather did none of that. The guy threw less than 500 punches in a 12 round Welterweight fight. That is disgraceful. Point of reference? Ray Leonard threw over 1,200 in his first Thomas Hearns fight. Recent history? How bout the fight before the main event..(Cotto, Alvarez) They DOUBLED the Mosley/Mayweather output. Floyd Mayweather should wear a ski mask. it is a stick up. Too bad he doesn't know that the reason he sells PPV's is because everybody is hoping to see him get his face caved in.
Dude how many fights do you think these guys fight to get to the top?? Margarito has 37 fights under his belt. He beat cintron a good boxer and clottey. He's not a horrible boxer by any means. As for the pressing yes it wasn't fast paced, but if you watch the fight mayweather is the one moving forward in the beginning. Later on he doesn't press as much and allows mosley to press as mosley started moving forward, probably because he started losing. Mosley had the reach on mayweather, mayweather had to be the one to press. Basically mosley moved right into what mayweather is best at.
Pressing has nothing to do with punch count. Especially with a defensive fighter in mayweather, a guy who is probably the best, and mosley, who himself is not a bad defensive boxer. If he's moving forward, then he is "pressing". He is setting the tempo, which yes was slow, but again he is defensive, he is not going to go in there and just throw punches, ala ricky hatton v pacman.
fyi you guys do know what you are implying is 1) the fight was never fast paced 2) Despite the fight never being fast paced mosley somehow was gassed after 2 rounds. A guy who is champ and has fought tons of fights all of a sudden couldn't even go 6 minutes?
He moved forward for about 22 seconds in round 8. Mayweather did not "press" anybody. he ran out the clock and landed every punch he knew he could land. He just played with him from round 5 on.
He went defensive later on, but even then he was still initiating contact. In fact in one round he was moving forward and rolling his shoulder to block any punches mosley might throw. He wasn't doing it quickly but he was doing it.
Same as the fight before, I've forgotten who it was, but the story was the same, kinda boring, dude knocked out the other cat in the 5th rd or so, several Dolphins players tweeted that they were bored with the fight. In fairness, people are willing to shell out 60 bucks to watch, the fighters are taking home tens of millions, why change?
the alvarez fight was good. i only got the end of the de leon fight but it seemed kind of long, that is probably the one you are talking about. Actually this undercard was pretty good, it had a good amount of young talent and no real cans from what I saw. edit: I take that back locker looks like he was a bit of a can.
I said he's been horrible since that incident. Mayweather was moving, but he certainly wasn't pressing. He had every opportunity to end that fight but he didn't even bother to try. How many times did you see him land more than 2 shots in a row without moving back? He landed 1 or 2 punches, then stepped out of the pocket. IMO, he didn't want to take the chance that Mosley could land another big punch, which is sad. Mayweather does enough to win his fights, but rarely goes for the exclamation point. One more reason he doesn't have **** on some other legends.
he has a lot on legends mainly because he's the epitomy of boxing defense. Offense, or excitement for the casual fan, is not the only criteria for legends. I agree with you he didn't try to finish it except I think for around round 8, but he was pressing is all I am saying. He was moving forward which is very different from how he usually fights.
It's not that he's not exciting bc he's defensive. It's that he's not exciting bc he refuses to take chances. He's got the amazing handspeed that everyone raves about yet he doesn't use it for more than a punch or two at a time.
thats defensive fighting bro. He always lets his opponents come to him, as he has a long reach , even on some of the taller fighters. Like I pointed out in one round he was using his shoulder to block and slowly moving forward. Its a way for him to watch for counter punches. He is a counter puncher so he usually waits for his opponent to throw on him. He's not a guy whose going to throw multiple shots just because he knows that opens him up defensively.
Notice how Mayweather fights everybody at just the right time? Diego Corales coming off a couple of wars and after being exposed. Zab Judah when Zab Judah was also exposed and shown to be overrated. De La Hoya when De la Hoya was completely washed up and just about ready to get retired by Pac man. Marquez after Marquez fought three wars with Israel Alvarez and was at almost zero in the gas tank. Mosley when he was 38 years old. In fact..Ricky Hatton was the only guy he fought that was in his prime in the last 5 years, and Pac Man then showed what a fraud Hatton was thereafter.
Ya but my point is you can fight defensively but still be aggressive. Maybe I'm giving too much credit to Floyd's power or not enough credit to Shane's chin.
mayweathers like pacman, his punching power is underrated due to their obscene amount of speed and defense. and yes mosley took some vicious shots, that is why I said I don't think he was gassed I think he just got hurt, that and I dont think he knew how to handle it after mayweather didn't go down. You tell me you almost knock a guy out, have control for two rounds, then in the third round the guy comes out of his corner right back at you. Kind of a scary situation
right but pacmans always aggressive. pacman is also smaller and has to pursue most of the people he fights as they try to keep him on the outside.
Yea, and if Mosley could be aggressive and have some success against Floyd (that were some of the best punches I've ever seen landed on him), than I think Pac can finish what Mosley couldn't. Floyd not having his usual conditioning advantage over an opponent should be huge too.
Its possible, but again given how mayweather handled mosley, a good fighter, number 3 in welterweights, etc. This isn't going to be no manny cake walk. I never said I don't like pacman or think he's a good fighter, I do think though that floyd is the better overall fighter. The problem I can tell you right now with both of these guys is both of them are on a whole other level then their competition.
Mosley was 38 and out of shape. You can have all the credentials in the world, but if you're out of shape you don't have too much of a chance.
again I find it hard to believe he took that big of a dive since margarito. To believe that you would have to believe margarito was completely inept. I don't think margarito is great, but he's not bad, and Im not even sure he's average.
