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Ricky or Ronnie?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Stringer Bell, Jul 27, 2010.

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Who is the better RB

  1. Ricky

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  2. Ronnie

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  1. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    Hypothetically, if you had to choose one, who would you choose? Who will help the team more this season?
     
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  2. BayAreaFinFan

    BayAreaFinFan D'oh Club Member

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    I think overall Ronnie is the most versatile back out of the two. But I'm glad we have both!
     
  3. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    Age notwithstanding, Brown is the better all around back. While Ricky is a pounder, no doubt and has shown he has the ability to be elite, I'd still take Ronnie, all things being equal. Both have pedigree, both are pounders, both are everydown backs. However, Ronnie has an added element in his pass catching ability and his vision in the open field over Ricky. Ricky blows people up, almost scaring them into not tackling him while Ronnie does all that but in addition he carries guys on his back for a few extra yards on nearly every tackle attempt.
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    It's a real toss-up. This conversation would be very interesting if both were 25 at the same time, but then they probably both wouldn't be on the same team if both were still 25...
     
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  4. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    As for this season, I think it'll be a tale of two half seasons. I think RW will carry the load early in the the season as RB continues to rehab and get back to football shape. Then as the season wears on, RB will pick up the bulk of the carries and workload until we get to playoff time... All bets are off come that time. If anything, if things go well this season, and we are in the playoffs, it'll be largely because we can run the ball when we want to run, making us that much better in the playoffs...
     
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  5. Ultra

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    I'd take Ricky because of his durability, and when his head is in it he is unstoppable. Ronnie hasn't even sniffed an 1800 yeard season.
     
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  6. PS17

    PS17 NYJ 2010!!!

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    Ricky, hands down.
     
  7. steveincolorado

    steveincolorado Spook, Storme & Pebbles

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    When healthy, Ronnie is one of the best backs in the league. Ricky is at the age where he can't handle the load anymore, but in his prime, he was one of the best to play the game.

    I think we have the best 1-2-3-4 punch in the league, when healthy:yes:
     
  8. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    I picked Ricky because I can't trust Ronnie would be healthy this entire season. So in that aspect Ricky would help more.
     
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  9. MikeHoncho

    MikeHoncho -=| Censored |=-

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    Rinny or Rocky
     
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  10. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    Ricky.
    I would take a brick wall over a sheet of glass on the football field every time.
     
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  11. gofins

    gofins Active Member

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    In their prime, Ricky. No question about it. Now, realistically Ronnie because of the wildcat.
     
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  12. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    when healthy I believe Ronnie is better......but he isnt so...I choose Ricky
     
  13. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Ronnie or the Black Demon Black Visor..

    I would take ronnie, because of his overall talent, and ability to execute a whole scheme within our offense.

    The great thing about this is we don't have to choose, these two are becoming a 2 headed monster that are totally connected mentally..

    What an incredible collection of talent...

    I look forward to seeing them both get signed so they can stay that way..

    Man I love our offense....Were stacked.
     
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  14. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    Brown, and it's not even close. RW showed last year that if used as a full time back he has a few good games and then wears down. I don't see that as much of an advantage over a more injury prone Brown. Brown is unquestionably the more talented guy right now and a game changer. I believe that even in their prime it's debatable as to who was better. When he was optimally used by Cameron, Brown was on pace to have a better season than RW's best season, so while durability has to be considered, I think it's debatable as to who was better. IMO it's mostly about individual preference. Regardless, the question was "who will help the team more this season" so I'll go with the better player, Brown.
     
  15. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    if you're asking who has the better chance to help this team RIGHT NOW, its ronnie. It's Ronnie by a mile. Rickys lack of production in the final 3 games had a lot to do with us losing all three of those games. Henne was forced to put the ball up way more than the offense was built for last year and we just couldn't handle it.

    And as rough as this may sound, one thing should also be noted here. When Ricky is our full time back, we have never made the playoffs. When Ronnie managed to stay healthy, even if it only was once in his career, we DID make the playoffs. Ricky is and has always been a powerhouse, but that kind of offense doesn't win football games in this era of football.
     
  16. Stringer Bell

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    I'm not sure how Ronnie can be labeled the more versatile back. Last season, Ricky averaged 7.5 yds per reception, Ronnie was at 7. If you look at the ability to change a game, Ricky was the one who made bigger plays last season.

    This is just my opinion, but I would be a lot more worried if Ricky went down for the year, as opposed to Ronnie.
     
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  17. The G Man

    The G Man Git 'r doooonnne!!!

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    I just voted Ronnie, and it tied the vote at 18 a piece. Not surprising that it's as close as it is, as both backs are very good and quite valuable to this franchise. IMO, they compliment each other.

    FYI, I based my vote on if I only had one to pick, which one would it be? And, the answer is Ronnie.
     
  18. Ozzy

    Ozzy Premium Member Luxury Box

    Ricky in his prime with no rolling papers in his pocket.

    Ronnie hands down right now!
     
  19. arsenal

    arsenal Sunglasses and advil

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    if injuries weren't a concern, Brown hands down... frown clown town...

    ahem, sorry, anyway ricky is a great 2nd back to have, but at this point in his career too many carries will lead to him wearing down fast...

    in their primes again if injuries weren't considered itd be close, ricky has the full season track record that Ronnie never got, but just watching a healthy Ronnie you can see the talent there...
     
  20. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

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    Ronnie is the better overall RB IMO .I think even Ricky recognizes that.
    Ronnie has more power ,he has better hands,he is a better wildcat player and he is a better blocker.

    Negatives:He does have a tendency to dance too much looking for a hole and his speed does not always translate to Tds.Plus his durability is still in question.

    Ricky is one the better sideline runners in the league even today .He is not the same back as he was in his heyday 2001 IMO.In those days he could pound a defense to submission .He has lost some of that power.

    I think Ronnie could be a pounder too but offenses are different now and he hasnt been given the opportunity to show it.That could be a positive as there is less wear and tear on a RBs body.
     
  21. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    I would be considerably more worried about losing Brown than Williams. In the 8 games before Brown got injured Brown had more rushing yards than Williams in 6 of them. They had equal yards once and Williams had more yards once. And Brown has always been considered the better receiver. The one staff that used him as a receiver was Cameron and Brown was averaging 5.5 rec/g and 10.0/per that year before the injury. Both numbers were better than Williams has ever posted. IMO the fact that Brown isn't used as a receiver more is the fault of the coaches and not reflective of the player talents. So I would be considerably more worried about losing the more talented starter than I would be about losing the less talented back-up.
     
  22. #1dolphinsfan

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    when Brown is heathly he is easly the best RB on our team
     
  23. Stringer Bell

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    The season Cameron was the coach, Brown didn't have a single reception that was caught 5 yds past the LOS. He put up gaudy stats on a team that won one game the entire season. If you're going to bring up numbers, look no further than Ricky's last season, where he had more rushing yards than Ronnie Brown has ever had in a single season.

    Last season, Brown may have had more total yards when he was healthy, but Williams was the more effective back. In regards to the starter/back-up argument, look no further than what Parcells and Sparano did in Dallas to get an idea of what is happening here.
     
  24. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    Brown couldn't lace Ricky's football cleats

    Brown is a TandemBack prone to injury,
    one step above mediocre & infinitely below
    the once in a decade phenomenon,
    uniquely talented Ricky Williams
    Williams is a Franchise RunningBack
    a Proven Bull, the RealDeal, the Beast
    & has carried the Franchise on his back
    Ronnie simply does not have this capability
    there is a major difference between the two
    in talent & durability. it is what it is...


    but I'm glad to see him back on the field,
    when running Tandem w/ Ricky he looks like a ProBowler.
    hope he stays healthy throughout the season


    run ricky & ronnie run!
     
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  25. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Id say Ronnie, but its not by much. Where Ronnie I think is better is as a receiver, and probably as a blocker too.
     
  26. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    ricky only got about 500 yds rushing in the final 7 games, off of 150+ carries. He may have ended the season with good numbers but our offense simply was not effective nor balanced with Ricky as the premier back. We had to cut the wildcat out entirely, and some of us liked that, but the fact remains that this offense still needed it for the big plays.

    Hopefully Marshall negates the need for the wildcat but until we start making big plays without it, Ronnie is far more important to this team. I may be alone here, but i think Miami might have made the playoffs if Ronnie hadn't gotten hurt. (i know, "if' this, "if" that) but really, aside from pennington, what was the biggest difference from the 2008 playoff team and 2009? Ronnie Brown.
     
  27. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    I don't disagree. But if we lost Ricky instead of Ronnie last season, it would have been the same result.
     
  28. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    Brown couldn't lace Ricky's football cleats
     
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  29. unluckyluciano

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    this. exactly.
     
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  30. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    Brown is a TandemBack prone to injury,
    one step above mediocre & infinitely below
    the once in a decade phenomenon,
    uniquely talented Ricky Williams
    Williams is a Franchise RunningBack
    a Proven Bull, the RealDeal, the Beast
    & has carried the Franchise on his back
    Ronnie simply does not have this capability
    there is a major difference between the two
    in talent & durability. it is what it is...
     
  31. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    Repeating it doesn't make it sound any less ridiculous
     
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  32. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    just hope Brown has healed up enough
    to get through the season @ TandemBack
    they work well together, he compliments Williams
    & we need to get something for him in trade after 2010
    it is what it is: even in his last years @ RB
    Brown couldn't lace Ricky's football cleats
     
  33. jetssuck

    jetssuck I hear Mandich's voice...

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    He's one of the most dynamic backs in the league and prior to injury, one of the most dangerous players in the league with the football in his hands....not to mention one of the most entertaining.

    To the rest of the NFL and it's fans........Ronnie Brown running the WC is the face of this franchise.
     
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  34. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member


    Maybe, but can you trust Ricky not to wig out again ?? After all, he's done it several times in the past...
     
  35. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    I think you need to think about what you are saying, you are saying ronnie is so bad he's not even close to ricky. Thats beyond ridiculous. Especially for two guys who stats aren't that far apart.
     
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  36. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    Ricky in his prime scared everyone.
    Ronnie in his prime scared a few.
    These days I would be cool with getting a great season from R&R collectively.
    We need them both folks.
     
  37. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    truth is: I'm a serious fan of Ricky Williams
    had a man-crush on the guy since his college days
    having said that
    must admit that Ronnie is a tremendous talent
    & he runs best in tandem, especially w/Williams
    together w/Polite plowing the way for them
    they constitute an elite NFL running game
    maybe the best...would be great to see
    the three of them explode onto the field
    leading the way to a Miami SuperBowl
    & although time is running out in the backfield
    they could do it in 2010 behind the Orca-5
    I love this team beyond comprehension

    we will contend in 2010:
    run Ricky, run Ronnie & stomp them into the ground Lou Polite
     
  38. Ozzy

    Ozzy Premium Member Luxury Box

    Ronnie Brown is feared by everyone in front of him and he is still in his prime.

    Ricky scared the entire sideline but he is way past prime...
     
  39. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    not according to the critics & pundits of the game. not according to Bill Parcells or last years results
    the Tandem from Hell will blaze a trail into the record books this year behind LouPolite & the Orca-5
     
  40. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    Ronnie is a good back but not elite. Ricky is past his prime but still viable as a power guy. Still hits the corner well too. You would hope Brown being the younger of the two would be the speed guy. With all due respect to Ronnie he has never had that second gear. He also has issues staying on the field.
    Two glaring things a RB should do. Ricky has done both.
     

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