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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by FinFan316, Sep 27, 2010.

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  1. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    An argument with no supporting facts, examples, anecdotes = weak. Saying a team isn't elite is an opinion, and a subjective one. Predicting they wont make it past the 1st round of the playoffs, only 8 teams do that a year. The 31 points at home argument was LOL funny. No offense, its just hard to take an argument like that seriously, especially since not many people ever thought Miami was an "elite" team to begin with. Actually, I totally agree that Miami isn't an "elite" team, I think 90% of us agree with you there. But the logic you used to articulate the opinion was awful, and the delivery was extremely clumsy. JMO.
     
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  2. Phinatic425

    Phinatic425 MIA State of Mind

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    I realize the fact that we lost against the Jets without Revis, Pace, etc. I am not saying that the loss vs the Jets didn't it hurt. It feels terrible.

    I am simply stating how stupid it is to basically say "we still suck" after 1 loss.
     
  3. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well away from here
    This thread is the gift that just keeps giving.
     
  4. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    And if we lose tomorrow night... oh boy
    We will have to rename this thread to " The Dolphins should just cancel the season." :wink2:
     
  5. FinFan316

    FinFan316 Banned

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    I never said we suck. I said we were not elite. If we win that game, you could make a point that we were turning the corner and learning how to win tough games. We did not do that. We lost another tough game, at home no less.
     
  6. FinFan316

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    i think it will show alot about this team.

    Even when we were going 1-15, cancelling the season wasnt an option.

    But it is reasonable to adjust expectations.

    I expect the Fins to win vs the Patriots.

    If they dont, I expect there will (and should be) blackouts in Miami the rest of the way.

    This thing should be turned around by now. They need to put NE out of their stinkin' "Yankee" misery.
     
  7. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    And how about the week prior? Ya know, when we became the first team to win a road game in minnesota since 2008? And we did it against a HOF QB, against a team that was one play away from the super bowl last season?

    we lost a very close game to the Jets, another team that wasn't too far from the super bowl last season either.

    The next couple weeks are going to be tough and maybe we haven't turned that corner but you're really discrediting that win against Minnesota and exaggerating the loss to the jets.
     
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  8. Ozzy

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    Wow!

    I can't believe that being 500 after 4 games, you would not only expect, but want fans to stay home. This has to be one of the silliest comments I've seen in a long long time.

    Four freaking games into the season. So far two hard faught wins on the road, one against a team that was a play or two from going to the SB, and a loss against a team that played in the AFC Championship game. AND You're ready to give up if they lose to NE?????

    Simply amazing how you give up so easy!


    Do you realize when the last blackout was?


    The Dolphins haven't had a regular season game blacked out on local television since 1998, and yes, that includes the 1-15 season so your expectations might be hampered some....
     
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  9. Ozzy

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    So F'n what!!!! They also won two tough *** road games before the loss!!!!


    I guess the Steelers are no longer elite right?
     
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  10. FinFan316

    FinFan316 Banned

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    Am I? The only team Minnesota has beaten is the Lions...a winless team. Point being, we dont know how good the Vikes are this year.

    The Jets appear to be pretty good..."we had'em, and let'em off the hook".

    At some point, you win a signature game. And if you agree that we havent turned the corner, why are we arguing? That puts on the same page.
     
  11. FinFan316

    FinFan316 Banned

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    How predictable and foolish some of you are. The Steelers played a great team with their third string QB and it took a great defensive play by one of the best ever to play the game to beat them.

    Besides, the Steelers, with this same core of players, won a SB just two years ago. Thats elite enough.

    Think before you post, Ozzy. I expect better from you.

    I didnt know when the last blackout was, but from traveling around the US, I can tell you, getting tickets to the Fins is one of the easiest tickets in the NFL. I never buy tickets before going down and always have great seats at a bargain. So.....whatever.
     
  12. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    i think the point being is the steelers just lost a division game so they cant be elite either. the colts lost, the cowboys ahve a losing record currently. i think thats the case alot of us are making. its early in the season and every team is till working out their kinks and there isnt an elite team in the league this year. we are all bunched together in the 2nd tier. until someone goes on a roll and rips off 5 or 6 wins in a row we're all in a dogfight.
     
  13. padre31

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    Some things just speak for themselves.
     
  14. Two Tacos

    Two Tacos Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Okay, it's official; I am man crushing on you. You are the single coolest poster ever. All those losing losers who lose and love to lose just can't handle your truth, probably because they lose so much. Thank you for this thread. It had to be said.


    Feel better?


    Hey, I just had a thought; I think Kansas City has room on their bandwagon. And if they turn out to be un-elite losers like the rest of the NFL, there is all ways next year. Just like there has been since 1972.
     
  15. FinFan316

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    I dont think the Colts are elite.

    The Steelers are a different story. Baltimore didnt run up and down the field on them. They are playing with their third string QB. They have players on their team that went from a 6 seed to SB Champion. Two years ago, they won another SB. They have proven they can overcome adversity. They are a team that knows how to win, plays great defense, and has enoutgh offense (with Ben the Rapist) to beat any team in the NFL. They have done it.

    The Steelers (which I knew some knucklehead was going to bring up--although I didnt think it would be Ozzy, because I think he is a smart guy) are not in anyway analogous to the Fins.
     
  16. FinFan316

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    This is just foolishness and if you have an IQ over 60, you know it. I must confess, I expected someone like you to come up with the Steelers analogy.

    You dont have to win every game to be elite. You have to show you can win big games...and do it. I think the Jets right now can argue they are elite. They go on the road missing a bunch of pieces to their team and win prime time road games, and they dominate lesser teams. The Ravens are going to be a tough team. They have mental toughness that wont quit. The Steelers, once Ben gets back, probably them too. I would say there arent any elite NFC teams.

    And btw, I love how you guys feel empowered to tell me to go be a fan of another team. What is up with that? Cant handle the truth about your own, from one of your own? Geez already.

    I cannot believe this is still coming up this close to the next weeks game. Some of you guys are unbelievable.
     
  17. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well away from here
    This just keeps getting better and better.
     
  18. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    are we elite if we beat them?
     
  19. Big Sweat

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    Why all the hatred towards FinFan? Yes, this forum is here to interact with other fans and to also support our beloved Miami Dolphins. But no where am I seeing where this is designed to be nothing but a "stroke each other" forum where nothing but positive things can/should be said about the team. I am not seeing anywhere in his comments where he is slamming the team, he is stating an opinion and a lot of you are not agreeing with it. The fact is, both sides of the arguments have valid points. We are sitting at 2-1 after taking on 2 road games in which Buffalo was one (and there should have been no doubt to winning that game) while the second game against Minn left me with butterflys in the stomach entering the game. Bottom line, Minn beat themselves as much as we beat them. Farve is playing horrible but his mistakes in the game outweighed ours. Lets not act like we went in and dominated that game.

    If this is a place where all that can occur is nothing but stroking the egos of every poster that says something good about the phins and piling on a poster when all he is doing is stating that we are not an elite team yet....then maybe I am in the wrong place. I agree with FinFan that we have wazy more work to do than what alot of you are perceiving we do. Based on the comments of FinFan he has been a fan of the phins for a long time, to include the dark ages after marino retired. I am not saying he is frustrated with the progress, I will let him answer that himself. But I will say for myself, I am not overly enthused with the progress yet. I think our defense has come a long way and is right now a shining light of our team. The offense potential is there but needs to gel more, stop the fumbling (Ronnie/Ricky),. But at the same time I recognize that we are getting better

    FinFan is giving his opinion, disagree with it or don't....but to ostrasize him for not saying positive things in asinine. I have read many a thread of people slamming the OC, or the secondary, or the play calling etc... so I am not sure why his post has got people up in arms.

    Have a good season people, because at the end of the day we are ALL fans of the phins
     
  20. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Again, this just keeps getting better and better.
     
  21. MikeHoncho

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    Alternate account?
     
  22. Big Sweat

    Big Sweat New Member

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    Nope, but please keep reinforcing my opinion about what kind of place I signed up for here :sad:
     
  23. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Mushroom season.
     
  24. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    aaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww :cry:
     
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  25. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    You know, if you’re going to create another account to make it seem like others on the forum are coming to your defense, you should at least make an effort to change up your grammar and spelling. Two accounts with the same almost-but-not-quite correct use of language and sentence structure equals the same person behind both. :lol:
     
  26. Killerphins

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    You are very confusing here.
    You call the Dolphins a second rate team and now you are raising your expectations to a win. You know the old saying "If you don't expect too much you might not be let down"
    We were all hurting after that Jets loss and I believe it took you longer to move on than most. If we lose this game tonight I would imagine things could get out of hand in this thread again. You have to prepare yourself for that as a fan. I hate when we lose too and I realize the situation is what it is. We have a young QB and a young defense and the team is still partially being built.
    Things will get better so be patient and enjoy the game tonight. Do I want to win this game.... Hell yes but I don't expect to win it. That is not saying we will lose I just keep my expectations at a minimum. Less broken things around the house that way. :lol:
     
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  27. DePhinistr8

    DePhinistr8 Season Ticket Holder

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    I'm tired of buying remote controls :)
     
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  28. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    There are plenty of posters who criticize the team. Difference being, FinFan provided nothing substantial with his criticism. In fact, the anecdotal comments he provided were non-supportive of his argument.
     
  29. Big Sweat

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    Why? am I going to find something different over there than what I am seeing here? I would just like to know when I will be getting access to the koolaid you seem to be sharing so I can know who to belittle or not. :thumbdown:

    Does this passphrase work to let me in the clubhouse? "The Dolphins are unstoppable and are the epitomy of what a perfect team can be. I will punch anyone in the utterus that does not agree with this!" :theman:
     
  30. BicketyBam

    BicketyBam No Fist Pumps Allowed

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    Really? Buffalo is a tough *** road game nowadays? :lol: You even had the benefit of Edwards directing them.

    I know, I know. Every divisional game is tough on the road. BUt Buffalo is horrid.
     
  31. Stringer Bell

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    The passphrase is: "I promise not to be belligerently shortsighted, and not make definitive statements after 3 games"
     
  32. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Well away from here
    :smackhead:
     
  33. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    :lol:
     
  34. Killerphins

    Killerphins The Finger

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    Dude you should read my posts if you think everything is beautiful sunshine and sweet puppies. I was public enemy #1 here the majority of the time until you... cough... I mean 316 stole my thunder.
     
  35. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Can we sticky this thread? Seriously. It's classic. Truly classic.

    This has to rank right up there in ThePhins.com annals as one of the best threads around.
     
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  36. DePhinistr8

    DePhinistr8 Season Ticket Holder

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    The difference between you and Big316 :) is that you actually backed up your assertions with facts. Not everybody appreciated the tone, but you always made good points.

    Gotta hand it to Big316 though...he gave this thread legs...
     
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  37. Conuficus

    Conuficus Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Nah, you actually will make a point and back it up with some manner of logic. Not every time, but hey you understand the difference now anyways between this and that.

    At least you don't call people names either. Just sayin'

    Doesn't mean we'll always agree, but hell you make a point in there somewhere. I have to give you credit.
     
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  38. Frumundah Finnatic

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  39. Conuficus

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    I mean..........seriously?
     
  40. unluckyluciano

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    I think killerphins created 316 to make us all appreciate him more..........
     

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