Totally negative redraft..

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  1. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    For fun, let's take a look back at the 2010 Draft with 20/20 hindsight:

    #28 Odrick

    Next 5:

    Kyle Wilson
    Jahvid Best
    Jerry Hughes
    Patrick Robinson
    Roger Saffold

    #40 Koa Misi

    Torrel Troupe
    Rob Gronkowski
    Sergio Kindle
    Zane Beadles
    Linval Joseph

    #73 John Jerry
    Anthony Smith
    Major Wright
    Chad Jones
    Damien Williams
    Brandon LaFell

    #119 AJ Edds

    Geno Atkins
    Keenan Clayton
    Mike Kafka
    Al Woods
    Eric Norwood

    #145 Nolan Carrol

    Cam Thomas
    Mitch Petrus
    Robert Johnson
    Hall Davis
    Zoltan Mesko

    #163 Reshad Jones

    Crezdon Butler
    Kerry Meir
    Stevenson Sylvester
    Nathan Triplett
    Jonathon Crompton

    #212 Chris McCoy
    Willie Young
    Mickey Shuler
    Jeremy Ware
    Kyle Calloway
    Dekoda Watson

    #252 Austin Spitler

    Erik Lorig
    Josh Hull
    Tim Toone

    Well, looking at it this way, it could be argued that Best would have been the better pick than Odrick, and Misi and Gronkowski would be a good discussion, but otherwise they only missed on the need for a kick returner in David Reed and Mark Mariani.

    And they had scouted Mark Mariani but passed on him, so all in all if you look at the 5 picks that happened right after our picks they really did not miss too badly on any of their picks, though at this moment in time Best for Odrick or Saffold for Odrick would have worked a bit better for us moving forwards.
     
  2. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    The problem wasnt necessarily Odrick at #28, it was being at #28 in the first place.
     
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  3. MarinePhinFan

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    So we shouldn't have traded down?
     
  4. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    If Odrick's injury heals and he comes back and plays and gives us a really good DL for the next 4 years, then I have no problem with him with our 1st round pick. Kind of reminds me of Daryl Gardener and his back. He had a short career, but still teamed up with Timbo to give us a formidable DT formation for a few years.
     
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  5. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I wouldn't have. Not with Thomas/Bryant /Graham there.

    I think we were justd esparate to trade down instead of being focused on getting a true difference maker. Koa Misis's are a dime a dozen
     
  6. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Ah, but if we had taken Best would the offense have been as bad as it was?

    And we already had Phillip Merling as well as Tony McDaniel and they botched the whole "Starks will play Nose Tackle" move as Soliai was primed and they just did not buy in, which means adding Odie in hindsight was overkill for 2010.

    Now if we lose McD, and Odie comes back then we have a ready replacement.
     
  7. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Yeah to bad we did not have an unknown OLB who could make plays..like Erik Walden..oh wait...

    (Devils Advocate mode I actually like Koa Misi's game a great deal)
     
  8. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    They botched "Starks playing Nost Tackle" by Soliai becoming really good.

    I do think that Signing McDaniels and Solia is going to be hard if they want to also sign a big offense free agent.
     
  9. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I like Misi too, but there are plenty of guys who can play adequately against the run and give you 5 sacks per year.

    I dont know that Misi is ever going to be a great pass rusher
     
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  10. padre31

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    Maybe they let Soliai walk and go ahead with the move of Starks to nose tackle.
     
  11. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Well....

    Jason Taylor had how many sacks his rookie year?

    Misi has even talked about the need to develop different moves to get to the QB...and we know he has the head and the motor to do this....

    Im very happy with the Odrick pick, as long as this isnt a re occurring injury. Misi is great...love the pick, even over Jahvid Best.

    Gronkowski would have been an awsome pick...though. Im not sure if he looks this talented because he has Brady throwing him the ball...or because he is this talented. Probably somewhere in between.

    John Jerry looks like a flop....

    AJ Edds fits a need and could be a very good nickle back for us in the future....

    Nolan Carrol...I think hes gonna be a stud....will be a gem in one or two years and will be looked upon as maybe one of the best value picks in the draft. Love him on KR's..hes gonna break some next year.

    Reshad Jones...he's looked very solid..and given the need at safety...was a good pick. Not sure about McCoy yet...alot of people were pretty high on his potential....

    All in all....a very good draft so far if you ask me.....but I dont look at Odrick and Edds being injured as pulling down the weight of the draft grade yet.
     
  12. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Eh...I hope not.

    Soliai had a Pro Bowl caliber season there.....definitely need to get him locked up.

    Also would like to see them lock up Ronnie Brown...I like him alot and think we just need a player like Noel Devine to compliment him.
     
  13. miamiron

    miamiron There's always next year

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    You might want to compare Soliai to the nose tackles in the afc east
    before you say he had a pro bowl season

    Soliai...39 tackles...2 sacks...
    Wilfork..57 tackles...2 sacks...enabled Mayo to have 175 tackles this season
    Williams...77 tackles...5.5 sacks
    Sione Pouha...59 tackles...2 sacks...

    Not sure Soliai had a better season than any nose tackle in the afc east
    but he did have a good season for Paul Soliai
     
  14. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Stats for a nose tackle are useless.
     
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  15. padre31

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    Well, I think Misi's numbers are close to Lamarr Woodley's as a rookie, Actually Misi had 4.5 and Woodley 4.0 as Rooks.

    So all in all nothing to be too disappointed with if he continues to develop.
     
  16. finsbuck719

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    I wouldn't have minded Robert Johnson in the 5th.
     
  17. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Stats for NT's are useless as GIK already said, and also, Soliai split NT duties with Starks and McDaniel.
     
  18. Tin Indian

    Tin Indian Rockin' The Bottom End

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    We traded down to get our 2nd back and evidently there wasn't anyone they wanted at that spot. I still wanted Earl Thomas there and would have been a terrific pick, but I understand why we moved back. At this point though, I really don't like the Odrick pick. The guys seems to be made of glass.
     
  19. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    Hell no.
     

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