Ryan Kerrigan and Christian Ponder would have heads exploding..and I like both of them, if Ponder checks out medically, but think we should go Running Back in Rd #3, as Ponder is likely not to play in 2011 and we need more help than to allow a guy to sit for a yr. Then Williams, a SS, Dion Lewis, and a Olinemen in Rd #7, I'd be happy with that draft but taking Diccio would make no sense at all, not with Ricky Elmore on the board and the need for more athleticism at OLB for ST.
Padre , you mentioned to not take Ponder in round 3 as he would sit and we need more help. Not advocating Ponder , but based on your thinking , we have a legitimate shot at the Super Bowl this year if we draft only players that contribute right away? For me I would rather take the best player long term , regardless of if they contribute significantly this year. At some point you have to bite the bullet to get to a serious Super Bowl contender and don't think we do that drafting that way , imvho. Part of the reason I feel we should make the move needed to get a franchise Qb if one is available. Short term pain for long term gain , lord knows we have had long term pain for far too long , time to change the way we address this mediocrity imo.
Well D22, there would be nothing wrong per se with taking Ponder, but our problem goes beyond the Qb position, the running game is a wreck and if that is fixed, and the Defense upgraded we can make a playoff run as we could win anywhere, if we take a Qb early we could miss out on a 1,300 yd running back that imho, we need more than we need a Qb. That mock does have us taking Ryan Williams and Dion Lewis, which I'd love, but we still need a LG and RG and Center, as we really are thin at those slots, even if Incognito is resigned and Garner comes back healthy, Ponder's draft slot could easily be Moffit or Kris O'Dowd, whom I really want at Center. O'Dowd started as a 18 yr old for a National Title team, played 4 yrs and was USC's best lineman. Let me add that we will always be mediocre unless we can do at least one thing well on offense, and running the ball is more likely to be accomplished in one offseason than bringing in a Rook Qb and hoping for the best.
Ponder is my guy this year, I'd be thrilled to get him in the 3rd. He's been vastly underrated this year imo but is picking up steam (unfortunately) after solid Senior Bowl and combine performances.
Ponder running a 4.7 surprised me, however, since we cannot do much of anything on offense it would be better to pour resources into areas that allow us to at least do something well on offense, which imo means running the football.
Henne might be the guy, might not be the guy. Apparently Parcells cast his vote thumbs down on that one. If nothing else we need an insurance policy- ie waste as little time as possible- if Henne fails. Ponder in the 3rd rd fits the bill for me, and I like his overall game/upside.
There are a few picks I would prefer to change but overall it was a fairly logical, reasonable draft.
I do not see where a rook will be of all that much help though, if anything they could pose less of a threat in the passing game than Henne currently does, that is a part of the reason why Vince Young or J Russell make some sense to me. Or even a Vet like Bruce Gradkowski.
I would be pretty upset with Kerrigan. The Dolphins just have too many needs and there would without a doubt be better players available at 15. If the Dolphins take a defensive player IMO it would have to be very good value, and I just don't see Kerrigan as good value at 15 let alone very good value. I wouldn't mind Ponder in the 3rd, but I seriously doubt he gets there.
I still prefer a trade down if a partner can be found for that ... but if we're forced to pick, I almost have to think, based on that Mock, we'd take one of the top Tackles considering none have been picked at that point. Even though it makes a lot of sense ... I just can't see us taking Ingram
Spending a #15 pick on a guy <who's not even an elite pass rusher> to platoon with Misi?? No thank you. Waste of a pick. I'm not sure how they believe Kerrigan is a speed rusher? lol. Misi's more explosive off the snap IMO. No playmaking TE or WR? Our offense needs immediate help but they wait till round 4 to address it? :facepalm:
The defensive player I'd love to have at 15 is JJ Watt. Too bad we don't need him........ unless he can drop 20 lbs and move to OLB. lol.
It would not surprise me if the Dolphins didn't take a TE or WR in the first or third round. Even if they trade back, it wouldn't surprise me if they went RB, OLB, OT.
It wouldn't surprise me if we didn't take a TE or WR in the 1st or 3rd either...... but to not take one at all makes me think that these guys are clueless. I wouldn't have a problem taking OT and/or RB with our 1st two picks, but it would scare me to wait till the 4th round (like Drafttek did) when we currently have none on the roster. The offense needs to improve ASAP, and using our first four picks on 2 defensive guys, a project QB, and a RB with an injury history seems pretty ignorant to our needs IMO..... not to mention, it's no guarantee that a back of Ryan Williams's caliber will even be there in the 4th round.
-wind up getting help later in the draft, Williams and Lewis -Kerrigan would play the strongside Why have 3 units non of which are dominant?
Kerrigan makes no sense at all in any respect. Drafting him in the first would make me take a 1 year leave from football. I see no way that he makes our defense dominant.
Would LOVE Ponder in Round 3.....I think he has 1st round talent...only injury questions keep him lower IMO. Kid reminds me of Aaron Rogers... Really dont see Kerrigan..... Id like to trade back...and I believe we could and pick back that 2nd rounder...
Maybe I'm gun shy after Pennington and Grove, but I don't see bringing in an injury prone player as a particularly good bet.
I do, if Kerringan is the stud passrusher from the SOLB position we'd generate more turnover opportunities.
He really hasn't shown any ability to be a 3-4 OLB and he doesn't seem to be any kind of upgrade from Misi. I know you love the guy and you are enamored with taking an OLB in the first, but we can find better in a deep draft. Still, that's a luxury pick we just cannot afford at this point. Take a kid in the 3-4 round area maybe, but not the first. Kerrigan would be a colossal mistake that should see Ireland fired on the spot.
Not enamoured, more or less tired of not really making a comittment to having at least one dominant unit of players, I do not believe that in the NFL today you can have 8 squads of just good players (Rb, Qb, Te, OL,Wr, Dline, Lb, Db's) and just expect to out coach/out discipline the team you are playing week in and week out, the NFL will find the flaws and quickly expose them. For example look at the resource the Steelers have in their OLB corps.
I wouldn't mind making our LBs an elite unit if we could find the right final piece. I'd lean more towards Martez Wilson even though he has some developing to do, but he could end up being versatile addition.
Not having that #2 pick will keep us from getting Wilson, if Irish manages to trade back and land him we could forego Kerrigan but he is more like Dansby than Ray Lewis. That is more or less what I think we need on Defense, more attitude, they seem to be more happy with Drones and they don't play inspired defense. For all of the pinning for Marino, people forget that we used to have a All Pro Tradition at ILB, this is kind of the longest run of time without a All Pro caliber middle or inside linebacker, Buoniconti, Duhe, Offerdahl, Thomas..Crowder? Dansby is good but has never made a pro bowl.
UDFA in Harrisson and what, a second rounder in Woodley? That's what I say pass. First round 3-4 OLBs also tend to struggle. Unless Miller drops, it's a position I would put off for now. I think our DL can be dominant along the line of the Packers. Then we can have Cam play Matthews. Just need our secondary to step up.
