Dolphins DT Odrick says he's on rebound from foot injury

Judging from his lack of play due to injury last year, I have serious concerns that the guy is made of glass.

 

The leg he broke last season is the same leg he broke in his sophomore season in college at PSU. He already has screws and a plate in that leg. I can't find out if it was initially a distal or proximal fracture or where he broke it the second time. If it was a plateau or plafond fracture he's going to have a lot more problems than if he broke the bone midshaft. However, with knowing that he's had a plate and screws (according to the reports) and not a rod inserted it is most likley it was either a proximal or distal fracture which is more worrisome.


Again, I hope I am 100% wrong on this, but I just don't see him being reliable due to his injuries.

 

Actually, how about this- diagnoses are for doctors who have at least some information on the situation.

 

If you're going to make something up you might wanna pick something that someone doesn't track. Odrick played 22 snaps, looked good holding his gaps in the run game and had a nice tackle in the backfield. No one is carving a bust but he looked as if his starting job was justified.

 

How about this- I've seen enough information on Odrick, and couple that with the years of experience I've had dealing with surgically repaired bones, that I feel I can safely make a better educated guess than you about his situation. Add to this that Odrick broke the same surgically repaired, plate/screw filled leg that he broke in his sophomore season in college and I think I'm closer to the truth than you.

After all, it's not like the Dolphins medical staff as a stellar record...*Cough* Brees* Culpepper* Cough*

 

If Keith Byars foot can be fixed, I have no concern about Odie's situation as he came back and played at a high level.

And it was not his previous injury that ended his season, it was the fact he got his foot broken, his leg had healed, it was also his opposite foot, not the leg with the plate in it.

 

Ugh, he did not "re break" his surgically repaired leg, he developed stress fractures around the screws and those had healed.

 

Earl Thomas

 

It's not like he is the first rookie to miss his first yr due to injuries.

 

this worries me....Bottom line...Odrick has to make it...Odrick has to play like a first roundpick...cause if he doesn't, iam gonna be so pissed for screwing up another first rounder for our franchise, I wont know what to do with myself.

 

Amid reports that Miami Dolphins rookie defensive end Jared Odrick had either re-broken the right leg he injured in the season opener at Buffalo or simply suffered a broken leg during Wednesday's practice, Dolphins coach Tony Sparano saw fit to set the record straight at his Thursday afternoon press conference. Sparano confirmed that the injury was to Odrick's right foot and had absolutely nothing to do with the other injury, and he has also not decided whether or not to place Odrick on injured reserve. A visibly disgruntled Sparano stood behind the podium and fielded the first question about Odrick's status with a succinct, "He's done for a long time."


He broke his right leg in college and broke it again his first game of the NFL season. He missed four games with that 2nd break. According to this it was his right foot that ended his season. However, I have seen where it says it was his left foot too. Sparano playing games?

 

Where did you get that info? Link? And if that's the case, a "stress fx" is a break. He did in fact "re break" his surgically repaired leg. And yes, they healed. However, how many times is he going to re break that surgically repaired leg and need 4 or more games to heal? Trust me, his injury is a legitimate concern. If you prefer maybe I can get the Yale educated Orthopedist sitting about 5 feet from me to tell you the same.

 

Well now, hold on their cowboy, if you did not know that, then how can you speak without having the facts?

 

Because I've heard enough to make an opinion. I "assumed" that the screws and plates were the cause of his latest leg injury because that's fairly typical in someone who DOESN'T play NFL football. However, I had yet to read a more detailed explaination other than he broke his right leg. I guess my assumption was correct. Also, this furthers my opinion that he will have nagging, and maybe more serious, injuries due to that hardware.

 

http://www.aolnews.com/2010/10/21/jared-odricks-injured-reserve-status-remains-in-air-with-ankle/

He broke his left foot, that is what ended his season.

 

http://news.lalate.com/2010/09/14/jared-odrick-learns-injury-puts-him-out-two-weeks-not-six/

The claim is he was rolled on, which does happen, this was not a case of over work caused a repair to fall apart, that is a part of the reason why I'm not all that concerned, plus even with a serious lis francs break it will be almost a yr for it to heal, he should be fine.

 

Why are you talking about a foot type injury (lisfranc) when discussing his broken leg?
I still think that his leg injury will cause him problems. Yes, all of this is speculation on my part, but... I think my specualtion has a little bit more experience and practical education behind it than most here.

 

Let's face it. The guy doesn't drink enough milk and has weak bones. lol.

Maybe he doesn't re-break the same leg again. He'll probably fracture something else instead.

Should we begin a pool on what the next body part will be to go? My chips are on right ankle/week 3.

 

Jared Odrick will be a bust. These injuries are going to bother him his whole career.
We blew the pick IMO.

 

Wow, 22 snaps......BIG DEAL. All I know is he didn't even make it past the 1st or 2nd defensive series and he was our 1st round pick. We could have had some real offensive help with that pick, which more than likely would have contributed more in just that rookie season, than what this wasted pick will ever contribute to the Dolphins, even if he sticks around as long as Jason Allen was here.

I hope I am wrong but my gut feeling tells me I am right.

 

I don't think you could prove my point for me any better than you just did in the last few posts.

 

lol...Please go on and enlighten me about an injury that I see (and treat) on a daily basis. I am both a Radiographer and a Radiation Therapist. I've assisted surgeons more times than I can count with the placing of this type of hardware into human beings. I've seen this same hardware fail and cause problems on people who do as much physical activity as Petter Griffin. At the very least most people have pain and other complications for life. Odrick is a 270lb NFL defensive lineman. The amount of stress he puts on that hardware is incredible. He has already, in just a few years, had complications from his injury that caused him to miss 4 NFL games after one series of play. There will be more. Hopefully it won't affect him too much. However, I doubt that's the case.


Now, please, go on with your point some more. I'm dying to hear your expert opinion on this matter.

 

Well, I'm not so sure I agree with you. Griffen is a fatty who probably goes 320. Just sayin.

 

I'm not disputing you know more than me on the topic, but I used to be a medical professional myself and I know that unless you are a physician, YOU should not be diagnosing people or making the kind of statements you are, and an actual physician would not do so without examining the patient or looking at medical records themselves- Much less speculating on erroneous internet reports.

 

Look what happened when the Dolphins listened to a number of medical professionals regarding Drew Brees' shoulder instead of the medical professional who actually worked on that shoulder.

 

If you were a medical professional you'd know that I wasn't "diagnosing" anyone. I'm simply stating my opinion on a matter I know a lot about. For example, I know that Jay Cutler has type I diabetes. I know for a FACT that he needs insulin therapy. I know for a FACT that if he refuses to be compliant he could suffer cardiovascular injury, among many other things. Is that diagnosing? Do I need to look at his medical records to figure that out?

I know for a FACT that Odrick has metal screws and a plate(s) in his tibia. I know that since the tibia is the weight bearing bone of the lower leg it has tremendous amounts of stress on it. I also know that if he had broken that bone near midshaft he most likely would have had a rod implanted instead. Since it's known that it's a plate and screws I can deduce that his first fracture was either proximal or distal and could have been either a plateau or plafond fracture. Both of these usually require that type of hardware. Both of those are known to give even non gigantic NFL starting defensive lineman problems. I also know that in his very FIRST NFL series he fractured that same bone in the same leg.

Now, from all of this I can surmise that he MOST LIKELY will suffer other complications down the road. Will this happen next season or will it happen 20 years from now? I don't know, but the most recent complication is not a good sign.

 

No, it's not, because it's a matter of actual, 100% factual public knowledge. Jay Cutler has come out and spoke about his diabetes and been quite public in his work on the disease.

You don't know what Odrick's problem issue was from his injury, and you continue to not know, and you will continue to not know given the franchises disinterest in giving out that information. So there's really no other way for you to be doing what you are doing without diagnosing someone.

This is what you said, as a refresher:

You're giving your prognosis on Odrick's long term health inappropriately, and you are second guessing doctors pre-emptively with no first round knowledge of the situation, and...no medical degree.

 

**** we'd better find us a good shaman then?

 

First, you should really learn the definition of diagnosis. It may help you.

Second, the following is a quote from you that started this: "Medical opinions are for medical professionals."

Again, I am a medical professional and I have an opinion. The difference between you and I is that I realize that anyone here regardless of their education or experiences can have an opinion. If they disgaree with my opinion I will speak my peace. You, on the other hand are angry because I blew your spinning out of the water. You're trying to tell me what opinions I may have and where I may speak/write them. Well guess what, you're not that important.


Bottom line, I have experience treating people with the type of injury Odrick has. I can form my VALID MEDICAL OPINION and post it anywhere I damn well please. I'm not diagnosing people nor am I stepping past my scope of practice. You just think I am because you don't like my opinion and instead think Odrick will be just fine. Admit it, if I said that Odrick would be 100%, had nothing to worry about and then listed the same medical qualifications you'd agree with me, right?

 

alright man, your scaring the crap out of me...lol

 

You may not want to talk to me or else you'll find yourself named along with me in the medical malpractice lawsuit disgustipate has started against me. lol

 

booty and leg strength are so important to a 300 lb defensive lineman, when you have serious multiple injuries to the lower body, it prohibits you from training the body correctly to have the strength to compete at this level or to improve your game...

Odrick will not be a better player this year over last,that we know for sure...Iam a big Odrick fan too..love his game at that size, love his hands, love his versatility, so at this point all we can do is hope, and I hate that word when it comes to projection and my team..

 

Difference being, Odie has had pretty much a 12 months to heal his body, which is really rare in the NFL as the season to season cycle is typically April to January, and the emphasis is not on "recovery to complete health" it is "recovery in the shortest amount of time possible to get back out on the field".

A broken foot in "joe average" can take 8 months to heal, let alone to heavily use, in NFL World, you have less than 6 months to recover and to be back up to a Elite level of Athleticism.

That is why I think a lockout is one of the best things that can happen for Odie and Garner and Edds and Carey they could get completely healthy not NFL healthy in this time.

I think Odie is going to surprise everyone Deej, people seem to forget that he was the #3 rated Dlineman in 2010, behind Suh and McCoy, arguably the two best DT prospects to come out in the last 10 yrs, the man can play football.

 

I agree. I "hope" that he can be that number 1 pick. He has the ability and work ethic, but can his body go where his mind tells it to go? So far that's a big no. However, it's just hard to tell with things like this, but it's my opinion that he will have, in the very least, a nagging type injury that will make him less than 100% for most of his career.

 

You claimed Odrick was placed on injured reserve for a condition he did not have. What you based it on was anyones guess, and given your general attitude and "contribution" to the thread it appears to be off of some combination of arrogance and medical knowledge. Which is exactly why every time you've repeated your opinion since you've qualified it.

As for the diagnosis line, should I have placed an asterisk with the phrase "defined by those in the profession whose position involves the diagnosis of medical conditions including but not limited doctors, nurse practitioners, etc?" It should pretty well be given to you that you aren't qualified to be making the judgements you are, especially when you did it wrong the first time.

I've got no idea if Odrick will be fine or die this afternoon. I don't have the information or background knowledge. I do know generally speaking that if it was a serious concern that a "little birdie" will typically have leaked it, and that hasn't happened.

 

What are you babbling on about? I never mentioned anything about injured reserve. What "condition" did I say he had other than a broken ****ing leg? And what condition did I say he had but doesn't? I stated the facts. Odrick missed 4 games due to the fracture of a leg that he had surgically repaired in his college sophomore year. You're either blantantly lying in order to further this little game you're playing or you're confusing me with someone else. My only position, or OPINION, is that Odrick will have further complications due to the plate and screws in his leg. I'm not going to try and explain it any further to you, but I will say my OPINION does not equate to a diagnosis or any of the other diatribe you're spewing. You got pissy when someone made a comment about his leg. You then said that "only medical professionals should give an opinion". Well, guess what, Skippy, I'm a medical professional and I gave an opinion. Although, that wasn't good enough for you (even though it's exactly what you asked for) because you don't agree with this opinion.


Now, as to your second paragraph? Learn the definition of "diagnosing". I haven't diagnosed anybody. I simply stated my opinion from valid and reasonable medical experiences. And that is, once again: People who have screws and plates in their legs tend to have complications. Odrick has already suffered from some of those complications when he missed the first 4 games of his NFL career. And the first time? What "judgement"? What "first time"? Are you high?

 

Ok-
http://i.word.com/idictionary/diagnosis

Its funny when someone repeatedly accuses someone of not knowing the definition of a word without apparently looking it up themselves. You provided both analysis of a perceived injury, and drew conclusions as well based on that.

You ****ed up on Odrick's injury. You started going off on his leg when the issue at the end of it was his foot rather, and then are running with more guesswork to say Odrick's leg is a future problem when padre corrected you.

 

Heart and desire have nothing in common with bone mass and possible injury. I was not then or now knocking this young man's ability nor his heart and desire. On the other hand and with the understanding that my opinion is only my own and backed up by research of the possible problems he can have given the public record of his injurys I stand by my statement.

If any SOB takes me to court over it I wish him all the luck in the world collecting his winnings. Give it your BEST SHOT!

 

Just...stop. You're killing me.

It's not diagnosing. You're wrong. Odrick was already diagnosed with a fractured leg. I repeated that diagnosis and gave plausible outcomes to that diagnosis based on my PROFESSIONAL experience. Hell, not just plausible, FACTUAL because he's already ****ing fractured it again. I started talking about his leg and ended talking about his leg. Well, at least until you went off on some butt hurt tangent all because you don't like my OPINION.

What you've done is taken your hurt feelings and twisted this thread into a pile of ****.

This will be the last thing I write to you concerning this topic.

This is a chat forum. In a chat forum topics are brought up. Sometimes people give their ****ing opinions on those topics. If a person doesn't like that fact, maybe they shouldn't participate in a chat forum. In this instance the health of a player for the Miami Dolphin's was brought up. There are numerous public FACTS about his health that enables MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS to give some educated opinions or draw some fairly safe conclussions and voice them to the other members of the forum. It's not diagnosing. It's not illegal. It's not irresponsible. It's not negligent. It's an opinion and a very valid one at that.

 

See, this is where you have to look at the history of the position (NT) that Soliai plays. The light bulbs certainly came on for him, but it's really the nature of the NT position in this particular version of the 3-4 D. While Soliai isn't what you'd call an elite player as of yet, that position requires some time to develop into from nearly every guy that's played the position...Think about guys like Teddy Washington, Sam Adams, even Wilfork....they took 3-5 yrs to develop into that 'elite' status. I don't think Soliai is there yet, however I also don't think he's behind schedule in development, given the complexities of the position...

It was pretty obvious they didn't have the confidence in Soliai and drafting Odrick to rotate in and eventually take Starks spot was prudent, but Soliai has shown that maybe, just maybe the wait will [for him to develop] will be worth it...