Matt Barkley declares on TV. Don't think we should break the bank on a free agent QB

That will result in a decent season but it won't make me fine with Henne going forward. The teams that are consistently good get more than that out of their QBs. Their TD/INT ratios generally more than 2/1 (often 2.5/1) and they create plays more than just some of the time. If we want to return to the years where we are perennial SB contenders then we better not abandon the search for a QB that gets us more than a positive TD/INT ratio and SOME play creating ability.

 

Oh sure, problem being those Qb's you admire typically took time to develop into being that good, if you want the cake the bake you have to wait for the oven timer to ding Rafi, it does not happen overnight.

But oh no, some "#1 draft pick on a Qb!" player will of course accomplish that overnight, in one season.

Doesn't happen like that, if Henne hits those marks then I'll be happy, if we make the playoffs I'll be just fine with #7 moving forwards.

 

Thanks pads hopefully Henne follows the improvement curve. As for Orton not thrilled with the thought of draft picks but it would be a good security blanket.

 

Who said anything about overnight? Of course the drafted QB will have to be developed. But you have to actually draft him to start that process. Henne has as much of chance of being that place holder during that development process as any other FA option. So the key is not to keep bringing in place holder types at the expense of drafting that QB.

 

I don't think they shy away from any veteran QB based on an assumption of Barkley leaving or a deep QB class. First, there's no guarantee of getting who you want. People can speculate about trading draft picks, but it still takes 2 teams to tango. Anyone in position to draft a Luck or Barkley may not want to move out, no matter how many draft picks you waive in their face.

Most veteran QB's on the market are probably short-term answers anyway, and it's certainly arguable about whether Orton provides enough upside to part with anything close to a second round pick. If Henne sh*ts the bed, it's probably inevitable we spend a first round pick on a QB next year, and you'd want a veteran QB to help things along. Carson Palmer, if he does truly become available, may be an attractive option if the compensation is fair. And if he can be had for a 3rd, I might still strongly consider a QB in round 1 next year anyway.

 

Or, trade for one closer to the goal, or allow Henne to develop, drafting a Qb means nothing at all, nothing, it guarantees nothing, that is one of the fallacies of the draft industry and impossible to countenance.

Have seen enough high draft pick Qb's fail outright to bother to entertain the thinking Rafi.

 

Eh, draft picks are overrated x, the 08 and 09 second rd picks have had a fairly high bust rate, so it would not trouble me if we gave up a #2 for Orton, if he is our guy pay the price for him as he is far more of a known then a draft choice, heck we get more of them anyway.

 

Those close enough to be more than place holders don't get traded often. Maybe next time we won't pass up on a Brees level prospect. There are none like that available now. All that's out there are place holder types like Orton. That's not worth trading for since odds are he won't be much better than what we already have and even if he's all we can hope for we'll still need to draft a QB.

 

Well Rafi, I study a couple of things, mostly why Organizations, fail, and the Dolphins have failed since say, 03, for a simple reason.

They do not properly make decisions, it has not been due to a lack of Opportunities, not at all, they fail to seize those opportunities consistently.

Typically due to overcautious men in the HC or GM's chairs, they consistently over value draft choices, and undervalue Opportunities, mainly due to:

-poor medical decisions
-correct player decisions in a negative way, but a less then upside seeking draft strategy
-abuse of trading draft choices
-over reliance on beloved veteran players
-failure to really internalize the importance of the Qb position.
-failure to correctly identify problems before they arrive.

Funny thing is, we not only passed on Brees, we also passed on Orton in 2005.