Nic Grigsby has a chance to shine with the Miami Dolphins

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  1. ToddsPhins

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    He doesn't have to be a major part to be a contributor.
     
  2. Alex13

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    i can´t recall righ now, do we keep 3 or 4 RB´s on the roster, grigsby would need to be able to beat out hilliard too, to make this team no ?
     
  3. vt_dolfan

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    Wow...

    Lets hope he is this years Davone Bess.....
     
  4. MrClean

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    He does if Thomas gets hurt. We need a 2nd workhorse type, and with Lex it is a big unknown if we got one. One can say, they think he'll do a good job, but it is really a leap of faith to do so. I'd rather have a proven backup to Thomas. Either someone like Snelling, or resign Ricky.
     
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  5. padre31

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    We Kept 4, RW/RB/Cobbs/Hilliard

    Lexxy figures to take Pat Cobb's job as the jack of all trades, leaving the #4 Rb slot wide open for Sheets/Grigsby to compete for.

    A note of caution folks, in this type of environment Grigsby should shine as it is padless/no hitting speed vs slower defenders, once the pads come on the script changes.
     
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  6. padre31

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    Or Clinton Portis Mr C, he is younger then Ricky, a better blocker on blitz pickups and he is a more consistent runner who picks up his yds in between the tackles and avoids negative runs.
     
  7. MrClean

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    Portis has missed most of the last two seasons with injuries and he is not the weight or specimen that Ricky is IMO. He'd be ok, but all in all I'd prefer Ricky. Portis is younger, but Ricky has less than 100 total carries more, so tread wear is about the same.
     
  8. padre31

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    Groin issue, should be healed after this amount of time, and as the #3 Rb his real job is doing the dirty work on 3rd downs blocking in the backfield and mudding out tough yds for first downs, somethings RW is not particularly good at imo.




    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...venated-rb-portis-believes-he-can-make-impact
     
  9. padre31

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    JUST FYI folks, Drew R is on WQAM and said we contacted him about Marion Barber but when Bush was signed there was no room for Barber and he has heard nothing from us concerning Ricky Williams.
     
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  10. CaribPhin

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    Grigsby is eerily similar to Jamaal Charles. They have near identical 40 numbers. Are the exact same height, and came out of college at the same weight. If he plays like Charles, he and Thomas will make beautiful music together on the field.
     
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  11. rafael

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    And Thomas is eerily similar to Arian Foster. If Grigsby plays like Charles and Thomas plays like Foster it'll be a symphony.

    For the negative people on the board, this is just a joke. I have high hopes for both players, but I am not predicting that they will be Charles and Foster.
     
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  12. Fin D

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    I wonder what Daboli has cooking. It seems to me picking up Grigsby and nabbing Bush is similar to the "draft two of each" philosophy that Ireland has used in the past. If so, considering what they gave up to get both players (read:nothing really) I don't think their going to be used more than a few plays a game, but I suspect those will be plays that set up the offense and keep the defense honest.

    Or I could be completely wrong.
     
  13. rafael

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    IMO that type of mis-match player was desperately needed in this offense. Assuming you have an OC that plays to the strengths of your players, we needed a back that can be flexed out on a LB or come out of the backfield. We also needed somebody back there that can turn the corner consistently. Bush wasn't my top FA back choice, but he does address those areas. And I don't have a problem with his contract since it's basically a one year deal if we want. If he does well then the second year is really cheap. And Grigsby was my top UDFA back choice. I feel that he's got a chance to be another Bess based on his talent level and the team need.
     
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  14. padre31

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    And running behind a good run blocking Oline, Thomas/Bush/Sheets or Grigsby with Lexxy being more or less Pat Cobbs.

    Figure 30 carries or a bit more per game, DT has 18 or so, Bush 6-10 and the other two backs lucky to have 5 or 6 between them.

    Personally I think we are better suited to running the ball more then we are to passing out of 3 Wr sets.
     
  15. rafael

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    I think that carry distribution is about right. Although I don't think it will be close between Sheets and Grigsby. I think Grigsby is a football player. I see instincts for the position there that I've never seen from Sheets.
     
  16. padre31

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    Going to be a fun preseason Rafi, I've seen that in Sheets in spades.
     
  17. djphinfan

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    Lets hope thats all clean muscle

    A Coach told me he was worried about him holding up at the NFL level, but that was 20 lb's ago..

    I saw a monday nite practice video of him literally bouncing outside 5 feet from the guard..The oooos and ahhh's were loud and spontaneous.
     
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    Just wanted to point out the shift in Running Back Philosophy, we went from 3 pounders and 1 utility rb, to 1 pounder and 2 quick guys and 1 Utility Rb, totally different from the Henning approach.

    That is one of the reasons why my optimism has perked up a bit, add in far less questions on the Oline then I'd thought there would be and we have the ingredients...now what sort of chef is Daboll?
     
  19. ToddsPhins

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    As long as the signing wouldn't interfere with Lex getting his fair shot, only good could result from it. Which means--- I wouldn't bring in Ricky and automatically stick him above Lex on the depth chart just because he's Ricky. I'd want to see Lex get some quality reps to where he clearly displays that he either deserves it or doesn't.

    You're right, it is a leap of faith...... but sometimes that's necessary isn't?


    (Personally, I think Lex can be a contributor to a 3 prong attack taking 25% of the reps. We already know based on his Montana days that he's a better fit for spreading out the field; we know he's more than capable as a blocker; and he's as good or better a threat out of the backfield than Ronnie IMO b/c he has better open field vision, has similarly reliable hands, is a 1 cut and go runner with pretty good balance and agility, and has a better 10 yard burst than Ronnie which IMO is extremely significant.

    Then when I look at his short area explosion & power, he has some impressive numbers: 36.5" Vertical..... 10'03" Broad Jump..... and he did this at a compact 231 pounds?? That's some serious leg explosion. Lex's first 10 yards are no slower than Ahmad Bradshaw's, and his combined shuttle & 3 cone look like that of a 200 lb back, not a fullback type body.)
     
  20. ToddsPhins

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    I'm not sure he has quite the same vision around the LOS as Charles, but outside of that I can a lot of similarities.
     
  21. djphinfan

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    well Pod, right after the season, and rewatching that season, I wrote that the running back unit had to be ''completely rebuilt''..I thought that ronnie and Ricky would not be retained for more than just performance issues..

    So far we are almost there..Lets see what Lexy shows us in preseason, if not, I think we have one more move to make.
     
  22. dolfan22

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  23. VanDolPhan

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    [video=youtube;VzNFRDjyTu0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzNFRDjyTu0[/video]

    55 second mark. Look at him make 2 DL literally fall down in front of him. Only vid I could find. Maybe fans at their forums might have more?
     
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  24. padre31

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    Lexxy will stick, he plays ST and plays FB and effectively backsup DTrain, in effect Lexxy is a larger version of Pat Cobbs and he can do some good things on 3rd down as well.

    Glad to see you see what has been done to the Rb Corps and the Oline.
     
  25. djphinfan

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    that video made me think of..Double complete rainbow dude..''Its so intense, so vivid''..

    That dude is hilarious on that clip...Grigsby!!!Grigsby!!!

    He called it though, lol,, ahhh that was funny man.
     
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  26. djphinfan

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    ''were in a rhythm now''...hehehehe
     
  27. MrClean

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    If Thomas gets hurt, do you want Lex taking 60-70% of the RB snaps? I'm not sure I do. I hope he shows something in camp, but my recollection of him from 2009, when he did get some carries, was for a guy his size he seemed to sure go down easy on initial contact. I just can't recall him bouncing off tacklers and making much additional after first contact. I got nothing against him personally, and would like nothing better than for him to have success.

    If we are talking workout numbers, according to NFL draft scout, at the combine, his 10yd time was 1.56. That's barely average. All the top RBs that year except Mendenhall were 1.50 or below and he was 1.53.
    His 4.68 forty is well below average. His 3 cone was 7.01 and most of the top RBs were 6.70-6.90. His shuttle time of 4.20 was good though and right with best times.
    At his pro day, he performed better in some things and worse in others.
     
  28. padre31

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    You may need to check this Mr C:

    Lexxy:

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=20218&draftyear=2008&genpos=

    Hillis:

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=32821&draftyear=2008&genpos=

    Hillis has him in the 40 but Lexxy has him in the 10 yd dash and in the 20 yd shuttle Lexxy has a .18 advantage
     
  29. CaribPhin

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    Dude can really cut and change direction well.
     
  30. dolfan22

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    Don't forget there will be talent available post cut down day . There are still players out there now , in a month there will be more and I fully expect Miami to flip flop some players on the roster for some that aren't at that time. Last RB could certainly be one of them imo.
     

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