Tannehill that high doesnt surprise me.....Weeden out of top 5 does. And Foles in top five does as well over Jones. RG3 is the "Andrew Luck - HYPE" of the 2nd half of college season for sure...lots of folks on his jock and projecting hard with #2 overall, but he is fun to watch for sure. Barkley seems like this total sleeper that may slide and be forgotten at no fault of his own.
I'm not sure about the "arm strength" part. IMO it's no more than average at best on the NFL level; otherwise, I see no reason for Kiffin to intentionally exclude certain routes from his playcalling.
Back to Tannehill, the two things that really stand out to me once you look deeper into him and past his obvious physical talent. First, despite the fact that he is relatively inexperienced as a quarterback, he shows a natural feel for the pocket. He looks like a natural when he is moving around in the pocket. He does a terrific job of sensing pressure, feeling it, and moving around to avoid it. All the while, he keeps his head level and his eyes down the field. He steps up into the pocket and doesn't bail away from pressure the way Landry Jones does or the way Blaine Gabbert does. He will shift his feet, step up, or even roll out to avoid the pressure. All the while, he's not quick to leave the pocket at the first sign of trouble. Second, again this is something that is impressive for a player who doesn't have much experience, but he shows me good anticipation on his throws and the ability to throw his receivers open. At times, the latter gets him into a little trouble. Fact of the matter is, he has one receiver that will likely play in the NFL, and he is a tremendous underachiever in Jeff Fuller. I watched some tape of him against LSU last year, two very good corners in Morris Claiborne and Patrick Peterson. Tannehill did a great job of anticipating throws and throwing the out routes in front of them, but there were a few times where he anticipated that his receiver would come open when they couldn't beat either corner one on one. He's already developed this ability with only 2 years of experience as a college quarterback. With his physical talent, it really is scary to think about where he may be in 3-4 years once he gets a little better coaching on some of the finer points of the position. I said this on the club level, but I'm honestly within a gnat's butt of rating Ryan Tannehill as the 2nd best quarterback in this draft.
Bragger!!!! Congratulations? Was it a loose gnat or a tight gnat? Did it tickle when it flapped its wings?
Tannehill? Haven't we had enough QB's who can't throw a deep ball effectively? Pass. He is a great athlete, but not an NFL franchise QB.
He's still developing, CP, so it's not realistic to hold him to a standard of guys with more experience. The bottom line is--- he has virtually ALL the tools you want in a franchise QB, and he has them at more than just an adequate level. Tannehill's a natural passer; the deep ball accuracy will most likely gain consistency with additional coaching, improved footwork & mechanics, and repetition, which I don't see as a problem because he IS a natural passer and b/c he's intelligent, coachable, and an obviously quick learner based on how far he's come in a short time. One of the reasons I was extremely fond of Connor Barwin in 2009 is the same reason I also like Tannehill. They have a natural feel for the game. Barwin saw only 1 year on defense (defensive end) at Cincy before being drafted. Too many people used Barwin's lack of experience as a reason to question his future and time needed for development; however, I perceived it as a positive b/c it clued me in on how quickly he's able to adapt, learn a new position, and subsequently excel at it. As a rookie, Barwin had 4.5 sacks & 4 passes broken up at DE (in only his 2nd year playing defense). He missed year 2 with a fractured ankle. Now in Barwin's 3rd year, Houston moved him to OLB in their new 34 (which is where I thought he'd thrive in the NFL and why I wanted us to draft him), and he's quickly becoming an impact player with 35 tkls, 8.5 sacks, and 7 pbu.... and he's a big reason why Houston's D is tough despite missing Mario Williams. In Houston's 20-13 win vs Jax (without Schaub), he stepped up with 10 tkls and 4 sacks. This is a guy who would've been a stud NFL TE if Cincy never moved him to DE. IMO Tannehill is from the same mold. He's a quick learner and has both great football instincts and an incredibly natural feel for the game, evidenced by the fact he was an honorable mention Freshman All-American at WR (with 844 yards & 5 TDs) despite very little experience at the position in college or high school. Even though he was a stud receiver, he never became complacent; he wanted the starting QB job despite having a talented guy ahead of him. Once Tannehill was given a chance, he never gave it up and reeled off 6 straight wins. All this stuff speaks volumes IMO. It gives you a great indication of the kind of guy you're drafting. It tells me he has the ability & capacity to adjust to the NFL level since he's already proven he can do it on more than 1 occasion in college, verse tough competition, in a very short time frame, and do so quite effectively. It squashes the biggest concern regarding him---- "Can his inexperience be developed and developed within a reasonable time?"
Connor Barwin was a good call by you, that projection was not easy because of the position switch, but you had that kid as a football player that will adapt his game because of his instincts for the game..
Luck Griffin3 Barkley Tannehill Weeden My personal order of preference, but I'm NO guru. I'm just glad there is a long enough list there that we can get a "franchise"-likely QB with our 1st round pick. As for taking Blackmon then hoping for a "franchise QB" in the 2nd round I would be very upset if we didin't take one of these guys in the first round. It is time we take QB 1st round, haven't since Marino, and how's that been working out for us?
Man is Landry Jones droppin like its hot..at the start and almost half way, folks had this dude in the top 3 pretty much universally.. Not me in terms of draft position..didn't feel like his game deserved it, not with his competition..
Been calling this guy an overrated bum for a year now. Landry Henne. Wonder if some of the guys who argued with me that he's a legit QB prospect still believe that.
I could care less what Bunting has to say about Tannehill. I have a $100.00 bet with my best friend , who is an A&M fan, that Tannehill will NOT be selected in the first round. I will be one miserable Dolphin fan if they select Tannehill or Weeden as their QB of the future. I don't think either of these players will be effective in the NFL and I project them both as no more then career backups. The Dolphins should do everything they can to draft Luck, Griffin, or Barkley in the first round. If they have to trade their first round picks in 2012 and 2013, plus some lower picks to get one of these QB's, that is exactly what they should do.
A more interesting bet is what round Weeden goes. Definitely high 1st round talent, IMO...but 28 years old, tough pill to swallow. Tannehill and Weeden are going to compete against one another in the Senior Bowl so that's a big draw.
Anyone else think Heisman winner is too much of a draw for Ross to pass up if we get say the 7th or 8th pick in the draft and Luck and Barkley are gone? If those two are out, do we trade up for a guy? I REALLY like RG3 if you couldn't tell.
There's nothing he can do. He passes like a pitcher and shrinks under the big lights. Strong kid, but doesn't look as natural as Bradford did. He was also only a 63% passer this year with a passer rating lower than the other prospects and less TD's to go along with more INT's. It's no coincidence that the games he threw more picks than TD's were against competition. He needs another year at college IMO.
I think Tannehill might steal the thunder that week. After watching the awesome ESPN special on Todd Marinovich and being reminded of his initial ability & potential, IMO that's who Tannehill compares to the most if he had been as mechanically refined and coached up, but without the mental baggage and with an actual desire to play the position.
I personally don't think Tannehill is worth a first round draft pick, but I would gladly pay the $100.00 to my friend, as long as it is not the Dolphins who select Tannehill in the first round. Losing the bet is one thing. Losing the bet and being stuck with Tannehill as the next Dolphin QB would be more then I could take. I think Moore is a better NFL QB than Tannehill will ever be, and I see Tannehill as about on par with Henne.
I think Tannehill is still a little raw, so I would take Weedon in that matchup, but going forward I think Tannehill could be a stud. I have no problem giving him a first round grade. He still makes too many mistakes, but they feel correctable with experience. And he also shows a very natural feel for the pocket and some natural instincts for coverage (occasionally). I tend to worry more when I don't see any pocket feel b/c that often never develops. That's why I worry about a guy like Jones much more than Tannehill.
I'd be upset if we took Jones with Tannehill on the board. Heck, I'd be upset if we took Jones, period. I'd rather have an impact defensive player than Landry.
