NFL.com Crowder on Dolphins GM Ireland: ‘He’s not a good person’

As you stated, I don't think he gets any pass for not realizing sooner that a guy he drafted turned out to be a QB who wasn't very good. Either way, yes, after 2010 is when I really started to take notice of how he viewed the QB position. He went into 2011 with Henne AFTER Henne had been benched for Pennington the previous year (which was an unmitigated disaster).

When your owner comes out and makes comments about finding a QB, it suggests to me that something should have been done about the position sooner. You can't go into 2011 with Chad Henne and Matt Moore, you just can't. Lockout or No.

I don't want to hate the guy. I want him to be the greatest GM in the history of sports and win 10 Super Bowls in the next 10 years. I just feel like he's had his chance, and a 20-28 record in the last 3 years is what we have to show for it.

 

There's really nothing that needs defending when the most compelling path not taken would involve us heading into the fifth year of the Matt Ryan experiment not knowing if he can you past the first round of the playoffs without melting down.

Just doing something because you're being pressured into it isn't what a GM should be doing.

 

The truth is that their were teams interested in Crowder but because his wife was having their first child, he decided to take the year off and is planning to play again next year. I see nothing wrong with a man putting his family ahead of a GAME. It's not like he doesn't have the money to take the year off if he wants to.

As far as his feelings toward Ireland goes, I give him credit for being man enough to express his true feelings. After getting cut, he also stated how much he loved playing for Sparano and with his teammates. He just doesn't hold Ireland in high regard and in that case, he only agrees with the thoughts of thousands of other Dolphin fans.

 

Yea, in reality you don't get points for just trying to get a QB.

I just love how people act like they'd of rather had us swing and miss horribly with other QB prospects who've fallen on their face.

I find it hard to believe that if we drafted Sanchez that these same people wouldn't be *****ing about how bad Ireland is.

 

Has Ireland not done things he was pressured into doing? Pat White? Reports that Ross ordered him to give up draft picks for Brandon Marshall? Now Ross is pressuring him to get a QB. Maybe we don't have the ammo to get RG3 or Matt Flynn decides he'd rather got to Seattle. Maybe Peyton Manning retires. What then? Every year there seems to be some cop-out.

 

Well, here is the thing, as much as I like MMoore's game, he apparently, is not the answer at Qb in the eyes of Ross, remains to be seen what Philbin thinks of him. That means Ireland did not find an answer to the Qb situation in 4 yrs and that goes on his resume.

What Ireland is good at, small moves that pay off big, has not been enough to generate true playmakers for us.

 

Doesn't matter. His value is way higher right now than what we paid for him so it was a good FA signing.

 

Oh man, we are heading for another "the number of wins a starting pitcher has does not matter" thing slickj.

It is entirely possible to have a good FA signing and still not be a solution to the need, they are two different things.

 

lol That's bc you took what I said out of context.

I was responding to a list of good signings Ireland has made, which Moore's name is on.

 

Actually the other poster was being fair because not one team even gave Crowder a sniff no less an offer. If his value/talent was any good at all one of the other 31 NFL teams would have at least offered him vets minimum for the year. Even if a team does take him it will be a 1 yr deal for vets minimum.

Not even sure if he is eligible to get vets minimum because he technically retired and coming back would start him all over again. Not bad as a deep backup or maybe a special teams backup but it ends there.

 

Not true at all.

 

That's the thing, I don't get paid 3 Million a year to make those decisions. As a fan, I get to sit back and criticize the guy who does and tell others on message boards what I think about him when he fails. But since you asked, I would've tried to trade up for Cam Newton. If Carolina didn't bite, I would've drafted Ryan Mallet. I'd also try and trade up for Luck and RG3 this year (as opposed to trading down and drafting two defensive lineman).

Back to 08 and 09' for a second, I wouldn't have brought Pennington in. I know it's nice that we won a division title with a soft schedule then got destroyed by Baltimore, but that decision started this whole mess at QB IMO. We would've been better off taking our lumps those first couple years to see how Henne progressed without fear of being benched and getting a couple more high-impact players on offense. Maybe then we wouldn't have needed to give up two 2nd's for Brandon Marshall, in which case wouldn't have needed to trade down in the 2010 draft.

 

Im still astonished that Crowder gets as much heat as he does. Dont get me wrong, Crowder is not Zach Thomas, but he is no Eddie Moore either.

 

And it shouldn't be an issue until it actually is. I don't understand the thing where you(and to be fair, a lot of people) basically penalize a GM for making the correct decision because it isn't the decision you would make yourselves. People act as if Ireland lucks or blunders into making the correct decision for the wrong reasons. We've avoided drafting a quarterback since Henne not because of the reality of there not really being a guy during that time frame, but because Ireland/Parcells don't value quarterbacks appropriately. It's like we should have sacrificed draft picks to the quarterbacking gods rather than made an informed decision based on scouting.

It's like that for any number of choices. Reggie Bush over Ahmad Bradshaw or Deangelo Williams, Matt Moore as competition for Henne, drafting a CENTER at #15, etc.

 

Padre loves Matt Moore....except when he thinks he can use him as evidence that Ireland is a bad GM.

 

Not knowing is better than knowing not.

And with Henne we knew he could NOT get us there.

 

This made me lol b/c I looked down at little #51 in your signature (your son?) and pictured him saying this while waving goodbye.

(post #5 for anyone unsure of Gunn's signature)

 

Do we even have any guys left in the building from the last time he was actually in it?


/also should duck for cover; peer pressure preventing me

 

Are you really gonna hate on the guy for wanting to raise his kid? By no means will I defend Crowders play, but good god, some of you need to realize that we are talking about a ****ing game, and not take everything so seriously.

Can you honestly say that if you could afford to lose your job and take the year off to be with your first born child, you would not do that? I actually admire him for that stance. Now would he have actually got a job and landed with a team? Who knows.

 

Maybe Ireland asked him if his mother was a predator.
























(from the movie.... for clarification..... not the tv show)

 

....... because we all know women predators don't exist...... except in the eyes of other women. Otherwise they're considered opportunities.

 

What's that? No, no, no... have a seat.

 

I would say something here, but I don't even know what that means

 

I have to say that Crowder runs his mouth a little too much but I feel that Ireland has been 80 % of all our problems. Crowder is a very funy guy the one word that i can describe Crowder with is passionate and he has passion and isnt afraid to stand up to the patriots scumbags . I dont think a man has to be a goody tooshoes but a man doesnt have tobe a total jerk either. What Has Ireland done that makes him so great ? I dont see a real good tightend on the roster when 4 of them passed right by us. we only have one wr that is a real threat and we have going through the revolving door of quaterbacks for too long. So this qb issue should have been setteled the year after Marino Retired. so Jeff Ireland doesnt impressed me and he was the reason that coaches and players dont want to come here.

 

You watch the South Park episode where the Kyle's brother is schtupping his teacher, Drew Berrymore, I think?

 

I blame egg farts on Jeff Ireland..... He is definitely not a nice person.

 

Really ? What teams contacted him ? Other then Crowders Clown mouth, nothng I heard or read showed any team interested in him. Can you show me anything on teams that contacted him please. Again, not comments made by him or his agent, thats BS in my book. Any articles or or links to teams that showed interest and actually brought him in to kick the tires. Would be appreciated because as I said, I heard, or read nothing other then what came from clown boys mouth.

 

- Clayton

That being said I'm very happy I won't have to see him in Miami again.

 

crowder is right.

 

The Dolphins have moved on since they cut Clam Chowder,he needs to move on too.He sounds like a bitter man.

 

That is the bottom line isn't it?

Essentially Ireland traded CC for Burnett , now Burnett stunk the first 1/3 plus of the season but overall he was far more productive than CC . Crowder is famous / infamous for not creating any turnovers or big plays , but hey what team wants those?

CC said he was taking the year off , so let's believe him , but we didn't hear of any team rushing to acquire a solid piece for their defensive puzzle either. If CC was half as good as his mouth is he would be a pro bowler , I doubt he becomes one away from Ireland.