I see some around here still have Marinophobia. Marinophobia - Ma·rin·o·pho·bi·a./MuhRENOFauxBEuh/ Noun: An extreme or irrational fear or aversion to securing a Miami Dolphins franchise QB. Ex. "I just wouldn't know what to do if the Dolphins signed a guy like Peyton Manning. We've had bad QB play for so long. Call it Marinophobia."
I swear if one more person says, "but he's got a fused neck, he's old, he's one hit away from ending the world" when all anyone has said is sign him..... IF HE'S HEALTHY I'm gonna punch babies with other weaker babies.
No it isn't. First of all, there are people who wouldn't take him if he's healthy. Secondly, there exists a real possibility he'll be healthy, where as there is no possibility Rodgers is going to be cut or Marino is going to be cloned. So other than all 3 being QB's it isn't analogous at all. In any way. Nada. Zip. Zilch.
No, because there's a real chance Peyton could be healthy. There's probably less than a 1% chance Rodgers gets cut, and a 0% chance Marino gets cloned.
What are the chances of Peyton regenerating his nerve? I'm eager to hear what % chance you guys associate with it.
Better than zero, less than 100. You're assuming it's zero, which is why your analogies aren't valid.
Exactly. There has not been one report, anywhere, that has stated that the nerve will not regenerate. There are alot of reports that it might not, or that it is going slower than perhaps expected. Long story short, this acquisition is going to take a great deal of faith that the Manning you are signing in March is not the real Manning that will actually step on the field in September. I think it's worth the risk personally, but I understand the fear.
We know for a fact that it is going slower than expected. They kept him off IR, because they expected him to be able to practice before the season ended.
Yeah, I think everybody gets that. The question is do you take the risk? If Manning has shown tangible signes of improvement and you continue to see that improvement over the course of the next 6 weeks or so, why would you assume the improvement would stop? Like I said, this one takes a little faith, but if it works, then you will be a Super Bowl contender right now.
He was cleared by the doctors, so obviously he's seeing some sort of improvement. I'm not a doctor, nor do I know specific details of his injury. But to say there's zero chance is pretty presumptuous. The original point was that it's implied we only go after him if he's healthy enough to be effective. IMO, however, even if his arm strength wasn't what is was before, it may be good enough. We did have Chad Pennington, after all.
He was cleared because his neck is healthy, not because of his arm. My entire point is that its a pretty big leap to assume he will be healthy without actually discussing the probability of that happening. It could be a 5% chance he gets back to full strength. It could be a 50% chance. Thats what needs to be discussed.
Peyton's agent Tom Condon says that Peyton will play again but therevis no timetable at the moment and they haven't talked to anyone because he's still under contract with the colts. Link = bottom of ESPN screen
Then isn't the other people suffering from Breesaphobia? Br-ees-a-pho-bi-a, An extreme and irrational fear of missing out on the next big injured FA quarterback so we should sign him because he might be healthy enough to win a SB for us. Just playin devil advocate.
I was just bored and home alone when I saw that. I know it wasn't big news but I'm interested in any Peyton manning news because I want to see him play for us. I would like to see Brandon Marshall get more stats like he did in the pro bowl
Thats cool,I personally think manning will never be the same and I am really scared if we pass on flynn he is going to be a star.
I know the injury scares you but the fact that Flynn is an unproven QB scares me. What if he turns out like a Scott Mitchell type? Peyton is a proven QB and we are not gonna sign him if he's not healthy. He's been cleared by 2 doctors, he would also have to pass a physical and be cleared by our team doctor as well. I would be happy with manning or Flynn though but I know a healthy manning is better
Mannings injury is not just his neck,he has some type of nerve damage in his throwing arm which may or may not heal.From what I have read he does not have any velocity on his throws.This scares me. I know you would be happy with luck or griffin but guess they are also unproven.The two games flynn played he excelled in the packers system and now the dolphins have brought the system too south beach.This makes more sence than a 36 year old qb who might never play again because lets face it nobody know for sure. Another thing manning is only a stop gap even if he does get healthy because of his age.Everybody saying we will draft a qb in round 1 or 2 if we sign manning is crazy.No way ireland does this because the point of signing manning would be to win now and they would use draft picks for players to help them in postions of need not a qb to hold a clipboard.
I disagree with this. Manning , if healthy, is only short term solution. Drafting a QB would be critical moving forward. On the other hand, signing Flynn would probably mean another position is targeted with the top pick. There is nothing wrong with a rookie QB not named Luck holding a clipboard for a few years. See Aaron Rogers.
This gives a good 2-5 year window of great possibly epic seasons, I'm game. At least their not going all in on a far inferior guy: ala Vince Young, Matt Moore, Kyle Orton.
I'm not sold on MMoore yet either but all three of those guys have better resumes in the NFL than Matt Flynn.... The only thing that sets Flynn apart, to me, is the fact that a) he's been behind Aaron Rodgers and b) we might have Philbin's first hand endorsement of the kid (I only say might because technically he can't come out and endorse the kid until he's cut by the Packers...). In fact of the 4 guys, MMoore probably has the better resume...
Well, all the talk about his injury, the velocity on his throws, etc are all conjecture at this point. He's still a member of the Dolts and if there is info out there that he's 100% healthy, it's from his agent and if there's info that he may never play again, it's from Irsay... Of course any talk of acquiring Manning is predicated that we see something different from him between now and whenever he is available to talk to about a new team... Luck, by nearly all accounts, is a 2012 version of the 1998 Manning. Now how true that really is anyone guess at this point. He may very well turn into Ryan Leaf instead of Peyton Manning, but it's doubtful that the Colts go in any other direction. I think they've decided to clean the house, including Peyton, and move on with their 'Luck' of being, once again, in the right draft position at the right time... RG3 is the next on the list. Not as sure as Luck in most eyes, but considered capable of being an elite qb. Again, it's anyone's guess at this point. Tannehill/Weeden...anyone's guess. Flynn...anyone's guess. However we would be the most qualified to decide that he can be an elite qb based on our connection with Philbin...still it's anyone's guess... Every choice out there is 'anyone's guess'... Ross has decided that he wants the next great QB here and Ireland and Philbin will make choice and go with it....the most likely guess, imho, is Flynn. Not that I think he's the next great QB, but because we have the most evidence on him versus any of the other candidates (that would be available to us) that he might be that guy....as I said...anyone's guess...
I know I said he is a short term solution,but they only reason to pick him up is to win now.They will draft players with the win now philosphy.Drafting a qb instead of a stud offensive lineman or a pass rusher only makes sence because of mannings limited time left.If they sign manning and he can't get healthy moore will be are starting qb for the next 2 years.Thats not what I want. I want to roll the dice on flynn,draft a right tackle or pass rusher,find another te,and sign a speed wr in free agency.The icing on the cake would be a free safety and bamm we have a contender to compete for a while instead of maybe 1 or 2 years with manning.
