Per PFt: Dolphins struggling to keep season-ticket base at 30,000

I know Pod, but that's not the whole problem here..this is a viscious cycle that this fan base has something to do with being in.

maybe it's the best thing for us, start from scratch from a fans perspective, I wish some people could turn in their fan cards, go support the heat, don't wanna support your team because it's been a bad decade, see ya..

 

If I lived in Miami, I would buy those tickets to the game so damn fast it wouldn't be funny. I live in DC, I'm a Nationals fan. I still go to the games. If nothing but to get some Vitamin D and a few brews. I'm a Dolphins fan.....with the fish is where I belong, so I'd be at the games. But that's just me.

 

the fans have spoken, they have chosen to turn their backs, they've chosen to hear themselves criticize, they now get off on it and think their cool for doing it, kinda like wanna be Philly fans but Philly fans show up for the games, their making a compelling case for your wish to come true

The Nfl league and history will have never seen before what's going to happen in that stadium this year....

Bravo folks, well done, you should be proud of yourselves...

30K baby, now that is a fan base to be proud of..and I am, and I hope our coaches and players only acknowledge the real 30K.

 

Surely you can't be serious. Just because we're not as bad as the detroit lions of the 90s and cleveland browns does certainly not mean we're not in a bad spot and haven't been since 2003.

Going 12 years without a playoff win is not a common thing in this league. It's actually hard to pull off. Something like 16 QBs in 12 years is a disaster.

You can keep believing that this team has not been a disaster since Marino retired, but that won't make it true.

Let me repeat
15+ QBs
0 playoff wins
6 Head Coaches
since 2002

That's about as bad as can be. Not historically bad. But bad nonetheless.

 

Last NFL game I went to was in 2008 when the Dolphins came out here. I got club level seats for 100 bucks, face valve was like 300ish. When I spent 19 bucks on frigging nachos, that was tough to swallow.
I have several reasons why I have no interest in ever going to a game again, and some of it has to do with the overall cost.

 

Not sure how this makes sense

 

Losing does take it's course, but that's the last reason I would give up on the Dolphins. I have other issues with the modern team and the league in general.
I'll still support the Dolphins thru the Sunday ticket and a few hats and t-shirts, but not Nike...

 

You can go 3-13 in a season and be the worst team in the league. But it wouldn't be the worst team in history

 

Totally understandable

 

Listen, I know we've sucked for a long time, but this is getting into unprecedented territory here, there have been other franchises that have toppled our misery and have not gone this low..our only hope is that Philbin has the intelligence and leadership ability to get his team to play for the 30 K that do show up, it's his only angle, cause with what's going on, and what these players are hearing, Iam not sure how any professional athlete would be motivated.

 

And oddly I believe season tickets were highest in 2006 - over 60,000.

The Dolphins have been an epic disaster though...their two big horrible seasons (4-12 2004 and 1-15 2007) they were not able to find a QB..which can be chalked up to bad timing I guess, but they've also let eventual elite QB's slip away (Brees, and some could argue Rodgers who fell to the Packers. None of us knew what he would become...but that is why they get paid millions and we don't.) And after that they've just been a bunch of 6-10's and 7-9's...not terrible enough to get a top QB pick, but not good either, and nothing to give fans hope or reason to be excited. In sports, an apathetic fanbase is worse than an angry one. Dolphins fans got angry during the Wannstedt and post-Wanny years...but they still showed up to games, obviously with 60,000+ season ticket holders and even 46,000 a year after going 1-15. Things really imploded this past season though...another losing bad/mediocre year, no Andrew Luck, no RG3, no Peyton Manning. Better hope Tannehill is one of those Aaron Rodgers-like surprises.

And yes the playoff win drought is absolutely terrible. If the Panthers beat the Devils, the Dolphins will be the only sports team in Florida to have not won a playoff game/series since 2000. They may even be the only sports franchise in the entire Southeast to not win one. From one of the most successful franchises in sports period to one of the least successful in the NFL. The Dolphins should be a model to all current successful organizations like the Patriots of what not to do.

I'd still go to a game if I lived there...but there's not chance in hell I'd waste time and money to fly down to Miami during this time period. By the way, that may be another issue for them, the big fan base they have around the country is not going to fly down for a game during the worst time in the franchise's history. And they do have a large fan base around the country that they built up during the 70s, 80s and 90s...which might dent the individual tickets somewhat during losing years. I had initially planned to go to Dolphins-Giants last year here, but after that atrocious start I figured I'd stay home to watch them blow a lead (which they did) in HD.

 

Thanks Deej but I quit going to games because I scream so much, I started getting headaches after games. Seriously they were terrible to deal with.

But 30,000 season tickets will, most likely, end up being 37,000-40,000 by game day and if the team looks like it's headed in the right direction it could end up being 60,000 by game day. There are tons of diehard Dolphins fans, who are now taking a wait and see approach to this team, and quite frankly how can we really blame them?

The team is going to HAVE to show them they can be good before a lot of those who left will think about coming back.

 

I don't have an opportunity to go to games but I must say that I understand why people don't go anymore. I don't even think being bad is that big of a deal. It's the way that we play that is just not entertaining (and remember folks, the NFL is about entertainment) if not coupled with winning. If we went 5-11 every year and lost games 35-31 or 28-24 every week it'd be one thing but we lose and it's these awful 13-9, 16-13 and 9-3 type games which just suck something fierce.

I think playmakers would bring in fans. Just gimme some damn playmakers so I can watch games and see one dude on the field that I can expect to do something SportsCenter-worthy on any given play.

 

Cardinals, on year of success since moving to the valley in what / 1987. Buffalo may not seel out but is sure in hell has a full place. St. Louis has sucked since the greatest show on turf left town around the 2002 era and they average 55000 to 58000. Lets not talk strictly sellouts, lets talk a large fan base still going to see their team play. In either case or regardless of how you color it, its a hell of a lot more then scraping up 30 K people. Econony in Arizona since 2007 has been one of the worst in the USA. Fans still dug up the money to go. They were 5-11 in 2010 and sold out in Feb for 2009, they were 8-8 in 2011 and stadium was sold out for 2012 last month. They have no one at QB, they have no one at RB and yeah they have Larry Fitzgerald with no one to throw to him and nobody to run the ball to take the pressure off so they can pass but still, sold out.

When they played at Sun Devil stadium, regardless if they were even 8-8 the place was never sold out. The team still sucked bad, real bad, moved to new AC stadium and still sukked bad for 4 more years and no, they did not make the playoffs in any recent years prior to the new stadium and did not make the play offs until 5 years after they moved in and they still sold it out in between. And yes, it was all during a rough economy as bad or worse then S Florida. Arizona Housing prices have dropped the most in the nation.

Like I said, places other then AZ may not be sold out but above are examples of teams that have sukked and still almost pack the stadium. Maybe not sell outs but they still go in droves to see their teams play

 

Arizona has a playmaker and an awesome stadium. The Fins have neither.

 

hmmm, that's interesting, cause I could care less how they win games...If that's true what you say, that we need to be able to fill our fanbase with those types, the types that have to be entertained to support, then were in big trouble, cause that is certainly not what being a fan of a team is, that's a fan of football, not the team.

 

That's the thing though. We aren't winning and the way we're losing is amazingly un-entertaining. Why would a family of four pay $500 for four hours of entertainment that is boring as Hell and doesn't result in a positive outcome? I'd be ok with winning a lot and being boring. I'm not ok with losing a lot and being boring.

 

Losing is what makes it boring...you don't build a team with that thought process..under no circumstances

 

Yes, losing sucks, but there are different ways of losing. Some worse than others. At least if we had a high-powered offense, it would be a sign that things were turning around and there's always a chance. We've had good defenses for the past 15 years and nothing to show for it. I want something different. I would build an entertaining team. Most of the really good teams are entertaining.

Saints, pre-2011 Colts, Patriots, Packers

Good WRs + Good QB = your team has a chance at success

I'm just bored of seeing our team built like the league is still playing 1976 style football.

 

those teams are entertaining because they have the elite Qb's who do elite things with the football..

 

You don't say...

 

Well then be specific, you want us to find an elite Qb...you don't say...stop talking about the entertainment side and tell me who you would of acquired and will aquire to achiecve this entertainment you so desire.

 

I want us to draft playmakers instead of interior lineman. I also would prefer it if we didn't trade away our only offensive threat for two third round picks that'll probably turn into two more interior linemen.

 

There is a simple philosophy to follow...Bpa..not BEP..

 

Meh...

I never attended games...

 

Right, but the reality is that "failing" is a relative term here. The NFL's business model is designed to ensure that no teams really "fail" per se. There will always inherently be teams that lose.

 

That would never happen, dont be stupid.

 

Good thing our team isn't located in Italy:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/socce...ltras-demand-players-hand-over-193231395.html

 

LOL, at the guy wanting to move the team to LA. Sure, let's move them to the worst football market in America.

The goal is for this upcoming 6-10 season to get the attention it deserves. A nice fat 8 game blackout streak.

 

Now if we can only get Clyde Gates to show up opening day...

 

I'm a season ticket holder since the 80's, and have renewed again this year, but I don't blame anyone else for not going to the games.

Two big problems - the team has not been competitive in years & the team plays a boring style of football.

At the end of the day this is still entertainment and if you put out a bland product your sales will suffer.

 

It's funny that people who live nowhere near South Florida seem to be the one's using the tired "REAL FANS" rhetoric. Interesting though, the people who actually ARE season ticket holders aren't doing that. Go figure.

I find it incredibly convenient for people who live hundreds or thousands of miles away to bash someone for not showing up, especially when what they want those fans to show up for isn't worth anywhere near the price of admission.

 

I live 1000 miles away, and still have season tickets.

I personally don't really care if anyone shows up though.

 

Exactly. My family has had season tickets for 33 years. I debated getting rid of them this year, but got sucked back in during the whole Fisher/Peyton Manning thing.

Whether the games get blacked out is irrelevant to me. If people don't want to go, don't go. If they start winning the place will fill up.

On the plus side, I should have plenty of leg room this year

 

winning cures all ills unfortunetly we havent won **** since 1973