Ireland speaks about his responsibilities at camp.

Where did I dance around anything? Why should I call you a name or tell you off completely when we both know I'd just get suspended and nothing else would happen here? lol Well I'd hope you've seen it considering we've had convos over there about it. People should read it if they like. A lot of people thought it was true and funny (the on purpose kind).

I'd avoid logic too if it hurt whatever I was trying to sensationalize.

I could care less if you agree with it or not. I've just had it with the misinformed members of the fanbase that take whatever garbage writers spin seriously and in turn makes our fanbase look stupid with their actions (like the idiots protesting Ireland after the Marshall trade).

 

Don't worry ckparrothead. After the Dolphins once again finish below 500 this coming season, Ireland won't be around to deal with anymore. In fact I think a lot of the Ireland supporters on here will be jumping the Ireland ship before the season is over. Parcells and Sparano have been blamed for all the problems of the past few years, but soon the Ireland backers will see that it is really Ireland which is the real problem with this team.

There is a severe lack of talent on this team and that is the fault of the GM. Hopefully Ross will open his eyes and see the truth at the end of the 2012 season.

 

IMO, this has nothing to do with people who support Jeff Ireland or people who are more skeptical of his abilities as a General Manager. This is about someone who has made it his job to take the opposing viewpoint of 99.5% of everything I write, with thinly veiled insults and other forms of antagonism, all because...well, I don't know. Presumably in part because of some argument of Reagan Mauia that I surely don't remember.

 

Anyone who contends Ireland has done a good job to this point is in denial. Although I will say that this draft looks pretty damn good.

 

I doubt this list would be the same if Mike McCoy was the HC.

 

Ireland comments on the rookie struggling so we'll paint a picture of how nervous and uncertain he must be..... He doesn't want to get hurt again, Drama.
He keeps tabs on reps and players condition's, so *clearly he doesnt trust the coaches and/or practices poor management.

For the lack of talent part 1st, There is no lack of talent on this team, especially not severe. That was true in 2007.
If you think Ireland is on a short leash, and one losing season (with a brand new coaching staff) will do him in....... think again. They made the decision only just a few months ago when looking for coach, that Jeff was a keeper. You do know that before he was a Parcells guy, he was Carl Peterson's......right ?

 

I cannot believe this is an issue for some.

In any good business, quality control is everyone's job from the bottom to the top. Ireland, for better or worse, is the top of the football chain. Just as Philbin is going to have talks about defense without hurting the DC's feelings, Ireland can talk to his players about nutrition without hurting the conditioning coaches' feelings. As long as all the coaches/Ireland/scouts/etc. are on the same page and preaching the same message and ideas, then there is no issue.

And any concern anyone has at this point is pure conjecture based on not even circumstantial evidence.

 

Yeah that previous draft was pretty damn good too. We'll be able to better judge Thomas & Gates after this year but I'm sold on the rest. I haven't ever heard one good reason to why Ireland is unfit as our GM, or has done unsatisfactory work to this point. I also haven't heard anyone suggest a more favorable option that was available. It seems to me that the Haters ball for you guys throw for Ireland is like one of those old Witch Hunts of the colonial days.

 

Jeff Ireland has a responsibility to evaluate players. It seems reasonable for him to have an interest in the number of reps the players get in practice.

I would have a hard time believing that Philbin and Ireland didn't discuss this during the interview process, and both share the same view on it.

 

Thats ridiculous. This team has literally no bad contracts on the books, and a bunch of young talent.

 

I would also advise that people refrain from personal attacks. If you don't get along with someone just let it be and move on. Don't force me to issue any infractions.

 

Karlos Dansby is a terrible contract, and a bunch of young talent??? Calm down and look at the roster a little more unbiased then get back with me.

Unless you think young talent = fighting to be a starter.

 

Karlos Dansby is a terrible contract by what measure? How many more yrs is the team even committed to him?

 

12.8 M cap hit this year is a joke.

Over 10M for 2013
Over 13M hit in 2014

That's a bad contract

 

How is it a joke? He's performed in line with what he has done his entire career. He's one of the most versatile players on the league. Nobody besmirched the signing when it happened. Only when the team was losing.

 

He has performed at an average level...we thought we had a playmaker on our hands and thus far he has underperformed.

 

Averge level by what measure? How exactly are you measuring the performance of a ILB? Surely the Dolphins didnt have a top-10 defense because of Chris Clemons or Sean Smith.

Im sorry, but playmaker is an extremely
ambiguous term. Whatever led you to your expectations of Dansby before playing for Miami have been exhibited here. He has been the exact same in Miami as he was in Arizona.

 

I'm imagining Jeff Ireland saying something like "So how are you doing with the eating plan given to you by team management?"

And half this board s******g bricks over it.

 

I guess that's an opinion so your entitled to it. But I think most would disagree Dansby is a playmaker worthy of a 12M cap hit.

 

Im curious what more you would like to see from someone playing that position? What did he do in Arizona that he hasn't done here? How much do you attribute the teams defensive success to him?

 

He made big plays in Arizona, he hasn't here. And he was no more than a solid contributor for our defense. Wich is not worth 12.3 Million. Maybe he will thrive in the 4-3, but to this point he has been a disappointment.

 

And for the record, IIRC Dansby is only guaranteed $12M total for the remaining 3 yrs of his contract.

 

Im sorry, but this is just platitudes. He never had a season with more than 3 INTs in Arizona. He was no more of a "playmaker" in Arizona than he has been here. Ive seen nothing to support your theory.

 

So you think he is worth 12.3 Million dollar hit and his contract is congruent with his performance? Ok.

 

What makes the situation worse and even more ridiculous is at the time we made Dansby the highest paid MLB in the NFL. That is plain dumb.

 

$22M guaranteed over 5 years.

I think if you thought his contract was good when it was signed, then you have no reason to believe otherwise at this point. This has been a top-10 defense with only one real pass rusher. I'm not sure how you can't credit Dansby for the defense's success.

 

I've called him solid, and that's what he has been. And he signed a 5 year 43 million deal that he to this point has collected. And at the time he was the highest paid MLB wich was a BAD contract.

He has contributed but a top 5 MLB?? Hell no.

 

I would say he has been a top 5 ILB.

Who do you attribute the top-10 defense to???

 

He's been a damn good linebacker worthy of the price tag. You seem to think because he hasn't collected many interceptions, he isn't worth the price tag.

 

I said playmaker, wich he is not. Maybe he will step it up but to say he is worth that contract is insane IMO.

 

Austin Spitler.

 

I will name the MLBs I think are better than Dansby...

Willis
Beason
R. Lewis
Urlacher
Timmons
Bowman
LAuranitis
Cushing
Ryans
Vilma
Fletcher.

All IMO better than Dansby

And u could argue a few more, but either way top 5??? Stop it.

 

He wasn't last season early on, but got better.

 

I see that as a poor reason to say he isn't worthy of the price tag. It's a cop out answer. He's been damn good.

 

What makes them better?

 

As is the case with every Dolphin last season, lol.

 

True, however that's no excuse, no?

 

Not saying it is. Even with the slow start last season, Dansby still performed at a very high level. The same level in Arizona, IMO.

I was just making a joke about the slow start.

 

I don't know....talent?