Miami dolphins vrs Rams..Refs, and "No life stadium.

That's total Bullcrap on all accounts.


For one the game did sell out at game time. Now what makes ALL crowds go quiet? I'll tell you. It's when their team is down and when their team turns the ball over. Well, the first half saw Jay Feidler throw, not one, not two, but three interceptions!! At halftime the Miami Dolphins were down 14-0. So yeah, it was not loud thru the second quarter but it was crazy as hell during the first quarter and especially when Miami made a great defensive stand that made the Colts settle for a FG. I was sitting right there and it was loud as hell.

The second half saw the Dolphins drive all the way down to score a Td which cut the lead in half. That drive took almost half of the 3rd quarter so yeah, being that the Dolphins offense was on the field during that drive, it was pretty quiet. The remainder of the 3 quarter was plenty loud because the Colts had two 3 and outs.....

So as is in most stadiums, it got really loud in the 4th and on into Overtime....

Payton Manning made a comment after that game about it being as loud as he's ever herd, and that it reminded him of the dome he plays in all the time.

So get your facts straight before you call my post bogus

 

The Bills are more bandwagon than most fans in the NFL. When they sucked in the 70's and 80's their stadium was a ghost town. It was not until Kelly, Thomas and Smith brought them to 4 straight SB's! That's when they set an NFL record for attendance with somewhere around 90,000 fans at a single game. The in the 2000's they started to dissapear again when their team was floating at the bottom of the AFC East.

 

One other thing that needs to be said, and this applies to fans of ALL franchises, is that the home viewing experience for NFL games has improved at an exponential rate over the last two decades.

I got two tickets yesterday for free through my company. After my girlfriend and I paid for parking ($25), food ($15), Drinks ($30) we then sat in the brutal sun for 3 hours...OR you can sit at home in the AC and watch from your couch on a High-Definition Flat Screen for FREE.

So it's not even that there's more competition for your dollar, it's that there's more competition for your viewing experience. Now, me personally? I'll opt to go to the game over sitting at home more times than not. I can see the field and the plays develop. It's nice. But for your average fan, I can see why they'd want to watch from home ESPECIALLY when the team isn't great.

 

Thats ridiculous. Nobody is going to the game because they feel an obligation to cheer on the team. They go to the game to be entertained.

 

This probably the best reason given so far here. You have to realize that most fans aren't as passionate about a losing team as we are here. It has been a long time since we have seen consistent winning with this franchise. You take into account that the economy is bad and the product has been poor, add in that you can get a great NFL experience at home and avoid the heat.

 

Sure, but if you give fans the choice of watching the game live, or watching from a cabana at The W, I think I know which one most would choose.

 

I watchh from home........cause I live in Ohio

 

To me, nothing beats watching all the games on Sunday Ticket. I will never go to a live game unless its a night game.

 

They make the playoffs this year....

The opener next year and every game as long as they look like a playoff team will be packed.

 

DJ, the problem is you're spilling alot of digital ink about something that's never going to happen, at least anytime soon.

We are not getting a new stadium in the next 10 years. It's not happening. So it's pointless to keep discussing, even if your thesis is correct (and I'm not sure it is).

 

DJ, it's nonsense. Yeah, the atmosphere is great now that the Seahawks are pretty good, but the team has to be good forst for the "energy" or whatever you want to call it to make a difference.

2008- Seattle finishes 4-12 and goes an identical 2-6 at home and the road.
2009- Seattle finishes 5-11, goes .500 at home, beating only luminaries Jax, STL, Detroit and SF (all teams finished below .500)

 

Didn't the plans for renovation include building additional stands closer to the field? DJ, I think this would go a long way towards improving the home field advantage by increasing the noise level on the field. Also if they do a partial roof, that will help too. The stadium is very big, granted, and the upper deck is far from the field, but you can sure see the whole field from up there.

If those changes are implemented, and the team starts winning, things will be much better in that stadium IMO.

 

But "It's a tough place to play!" remarked a victorious road team at their postgame press conference.

 

There were many, many years pre-Brett Favre that the Packers were terrible. Are you suggesting that during that time the players did not enjoy or anticipate playing at Lambeau?

You see this argument the way you want to see it. You believe that the stadium itself creates this energy regardless of the performance of the etam, but it is just as likely, and probably could be deduced empirically, that a team which performs well at the beginning of games, gets the crowd pumped up.

It's chicken or the egg.

You simply assert that the Dolphins come out flat at Sun Life simply by virtue of being in the stadium, but isn't it just as likely that the crowd would be louder if the Fins came out playing well? Isn't that, in fact, what the players prepare all week for? Starting strong?

 

This issue is always going to come up. The stadium will most always be like that because it's Miami. There are a lot of vacationers and timeshares and people who only live their for part of the year and.....there is actually stuff to do in Miami. That's not going to change. No offense, but do you think there's a lot going on in Buffalo or Green bay or Cleveland or Arizona, etc, etc, etc, etc...? I'm not putting down those areas or people from there, but it's just the facts. They are not like Miami and, for some of the reasons which I mentioned, the Dolphins have an unusual fan base in that's it's very spread out nationally. Winning will always get more people in the seats, but still, it's usually going to be more difficult in a place like Miami. No big deal.

P.S.
Ross has to get away from hiring "stars' and creating an image for the team. I mean... J-Lo? Mark Anthony? etc? That's great for the latino community who for the most part don't like football and like soccer. Also, they have to get rid of that god awful, pansy "shake it to the left-shake to the right" s--t song. Yeah, that inspires that football tough attitude. That should be played at some cheesy wedding or bat mitzvah. It's emabarrasing.

 

Dam you just double-dissed Jimmy Buffett. It's "Fins to the left, Fins to the right" btw

 

I'd say so too. Someone who doesn't prioritize watching their team if at all possible every week during the season would amount to a casual fan IMO.

 

Why do people act like the Dolphins are the only team in the NFL that has empty seats when they're bad? Maybe if they paint the seats so they aren't bright freaking orange it will be less noticeable. You know like the rest of the stadiums with empty seats of teams who suck.

There are only a couple of teams in the NFL that would still sell out if the team was bad.

 

Just WTH is wrong with the stadium??? Moan moan moan. I'll take some piccies of the "stadium" my local team has. Maybe then you stop all your whinging. As for slagging the music off, sheesh. Top quality make the stadium bounce stuff. If you can hear, and are complaining about the noise level, then you aren't making enough yourself.

 

The entire premise of this thread incorrectly assumes the stadium is to blame for a lack of energy or noise on the field. This is wrong. Dead wrong. I attended a UM - FSU game at JRS 3 or 4 years ago that was every bit as loud and energetic as any sporting event I've ever been to. I'm talking 60k people standing up and cheering that literally had the building shaking. That one game convinced me that the venue can provide a distinct HF advantage and proved, beyond any doubt that the stadium itself is not the reason for the lack of energy in the place. It is the fans and only the fans.

 

And building a new stadium doesn't guarantee anything. Look at the Marlins and tell me how they fed off their new energy. Or look at the new Jets/ Giants stadium that has no heart or soul. Or even the new Yankee stadium that sounds like a morgue.

I for one will not support a one billion dollar tax expenditure to build a new stadium when this one is fine. Especially if the NFL wants to make sure the new stadium in Miami is Super Bowl ready, filled with corporate suites and looking a lot more like the Meadowlands than Seattle. I'll pass and wait for the product to improve on the field

 

DJ,
Read this article and tell me you want this in Miami:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/michael_rosenberg/10/16/yankees-fans-alcs/index.html

http://www.captainsblog.info/2012/1...e-the-focus-as-yankees-limp-to-detroit/17957/

Again, to back up the point, building a new stadium in this day in age WILL NOT result in a louder environment. Do you think the same ownership that opened up Club Liv and had red carpet is going to care about acoustics over suites, about an old school experience over $22 Sushi Rolls or $36 cocktails?

Hell no. Leave JRS the way it is, renovate it as much as you can and build a winning team.

This is also the same city that had 2 of the top 3 NBA players and 3 of the top 10 players in the league and still couldn't be in their seats on time and had to be taught how to "fan up" to the mockery of the rest of the sporting world.

 

I don't understand that song either! Why do they play this song instead of the Miami fight song when touchdowns are scored? Even if they don't want to play the Miami fight song at least throw in a Jock Jams CD or something. That fins to left the left crap annoys me every single time we score.

 

They switched it back to the old Miami song after TD's now.