How good would tannehill be this year if we kept brandon marshall?

Not all players fit in all systems on all teams. That is fact.

Is Philbin dumb?

 

It means absolutely nothing to this seasons team. Marshall is kicking *** so far this season. Shows what a good Qb means to him.

 

Lmao at using the wonderlic to try and support your argument. Talent, BY MILES, outweighs everything you mentioned! Oh and the rest of that list. Marshall excelled in every single one them! Everyone that has to due with being on the field.

 

Brandon Marshall with fit into every single system that is run on a football field! It's ok that you don't like the guy but if you're saying he did not fit into this offense, you're kidding yourself! Arguing that they got tired of putting up with him, and that Philbin wouldn't is a much better side to it...

 

Show me your proof of all that.

 

FinD, I love how all these arm chair fans think they know what's better for coach Philbin's offense, the harmony & cohesiveness of his team, and Tannehill's future than Philbin himself.


ADDED: They're not just arguing with us. They're essentially arguing with one of the NFL's most successful Offensive Coordinators the past handful of years who had recently established the NFL's most dominant offense [arguably] in GB.

 

Where's the proof this was Philbins decision?

 

B/c he's the Head Coach, not a ball boy..... not to mention he spoke of how his offense isn't meant to be one that relies upon constantly feeding one receiver (ala Mr 100CatchesMarshall).

 

Yea who needs 100 catches.

 

Obviously the Packers haven't needed close to that amount from one player the past few years in order to put up massive numbers. There can be problems with making your receiving corps one dimensional like that, unless you're throwing the ball as many times as Brady to where 100 doesn't take away from spreading the ball around.

 

But you cannot draft an entire team. That's why they pick their most gifted, and talented players first. It may end up being a bust but it's exactly how it works.

 

LOL!! So that wasn't Marshall who Sparano pulled out of a game last year?? don't remember who we played. He also half-assed several plays. The guy is a head case.

 

So just because you happen to not want Marshall on this team it makes you part of the coaches decision group? You're as much of the arm chair as it gets. We all know you think Marshall tainted your boy Chad....

There is absolutely no doubt that Marshall is better than any Wr on this team. Their statistics tell you that and the man is playing with a Qb who can actually get him the ball. He would fit extremely well in the west coast offense.

There is no doubt that this team would be better off with Brandon Marshall the player.

His mouth and he and his wife trying to stab one another sent him packing more than anything.

 

we pay hartline how many tds has he scored since being a dolphin please enlighten me

 

Apples n Oranges.

 

They usually don't fall to far and some will makes teams regret this way of thinking big time. Just ask Jimmy Johnson



Signed:

Randy Moss

 

Ryan Leaf, Pacman Jones, Lawrence Phillips, Rae Carruth, and the list goes on.

 

And then there are the Marshall's, who played at a small school, was drafted late and became one of the top Wr's in the league.


But the Miami Dolphins wish they had a Dez Bryant on this team. He may never amount to much but his 17 Td's in 2.5 seasons is something this team lacks from that position big time.

 

Not Brandon Marshall though! He exceeded his draft position by a country mile.

Now lets not forget that I cleary state that I would love Brandon Marshall, the player, on this team. I can't stand his stupidity off the field but on it he can play.

 

I don't see the argument being one sided just yet.

Like I said, a player like him but his second season was pretty darn good. Is he a dumbass? Well, that seems to be the case but the same argument cannot be said about Marshall or so it seems. He may do some stupid crap but So far he's had two different teams trade away two fairly high draft picks for him.

 

It's not so much his stupidity off the field in my view; it's that he's a "me" player who doesn't fit in a situation in which a team culture is trying to be developed.

 

Chad was good enough to make the team, I agree.

Brandon Marshall is a perennial pro bowler.

If this team was winning and BM had say...10 more targets than Hartline for example (very realistic) I think Marshall would be a happy camper. But losing and not getting the ball when you are the only weapon on the offense?? Yes, I can see the potential problem.

 

Yup, they conference called me and I agreed.
I take it your phone didn't ring? Must be why you're acting so bitter right now.

Where did you get that nonsense from? Oh yeah, a guy who isn't satisfied with anything less than 100 receptions would be a great fit for Philbin's WCO let me tell ya. I couldn't imagine the cancerous complaining Marshall would do if he caught less than 70 passes ala GB (Nelson & Jennings) considering how whiney he was the previous 2 years catching 80 balls.

 

Me bitter? Na! I just want a Wr with the ability of Brandon Marshall. I also would not have accepted less than a 2nd and 3rd for him. But I don't like Marshall the person too much. Do you watch Jags games this season in hopes of seeing Henne play and do well so you can, speaking of bitter, say I told you so?

He was not whining about catching 80 balls. He was whining about the crappy Qb they wanted him to play with. You put Marshall on a team that runs this exact same offense and if they're paying him big money, winning games, and going to the playoffs and he'd be just fine with it. Absolutely! And he'd fit perfectly here because teams would be doubling him like mad and the running game and other Wr's would be excelling as well.

 

It wouldn't help our record at all having Marshall. Look at what the second leading receiver on the bears is doing.
They are winning due to that defense, not Marshall. He has less pressure on him in Chicago due to cutler being emo and that defense playing lights out.

 

BTW, if we had it YOUR way, Ozzy, we'd have Kyle f***ing Orton at QB right now, so you might want to temper the petty remarks.
Everyone wanted Henne gone but no one seemed to care or consider whom the QB would be replacing him; either that or half of you foolishly believed Orton, Palmer, or Kolb were our long term solution at QB. I wanted to stick with Henne b/c unlike yourself, I didn't believe franchise QBs simply grew on a tree, nor that Kolb, Orton, or Palmer were the answer.... nor that our lame duck coach Sparano deserved to have a promising rookie QB to potentially screw up. My way proved right (which included wanting Tannehill long before he became the hot name); your way was wrong. The sooner you accept it, the sooner we can move on.

 

Umm you're the one who made the first smartass remark here about people who may want Marshall so temper away, and I'd take Orton over Henne anyday but I would have much prefered Palmer as a short term Qb. I gave ol #7 plenty of time before I wanted his butt kicked to the curb. Because, unlike you, I saw no further potential in his growth. Wether he was ruined here or it was him. He was what he was. Average...

My way is always right. I want a good Qb, a good coach, and a good team. I also wanted Sparano canned long before most and when I made a thread about it, I got all kinds of flack for it.

 

Go back and re-read my reasons as to why I believe you're wrong. It's back there somewhere amd I think it would absolutely have helped our record or could have...

 

I didn't make any direct comment toward you.... or even respond to one of your posts for that matter. You're the one who chose to go off topic on the subject. And no, Palmer or Orton wouldn't have been short term answers at QB b/c their financial/draft-pick impact would've been felt for longer than a year. I didn't see an answer at QB at the time, and b/c the team held out on rashly investing money/picks on one, just like I hoped, we put ourselves in position to draft Tannehill rather than either being handcuffed by Kolb, Orton, or Palmer or drafting the inferior Gabbert, Ponder, Locker, or Dalton. The specific scenario of rolling with Henne/Moore last year is why we were fortunate enough to end up with Tannehill this year. Just remember that.

 

You really want to break down compensation levels for Hartline's output vs. compensation level for Marshall's output? Really?

 

Palmer is still playing at a decent level on a crappy team. He is more than adequate.

As for you not making a comment towards me. I could have easily took a quote from, lets say, Pumpdogs, and made up a bunch of derogitory lines pointing in the same direction you believe in. It's all the same.

You used to have much thicker skin. All I did was mention that dummy Chad Henne a couple of times...

 

The difference is Reggie Wayne isnt a whining headache machine. Actually hes just the opposite. And he doesnt drop half a dozen tds a year while ranking among the leaders in drops. Forget Marshall. This team is better without him. Plus Tannehill doesnt have to cater to any prima donna's.

Marshall is fine for Chicago. They have a chance to make noise this year albeit however much good Jay Cutler allows them to make before bad Jay rears his ugly head.

 

I have to disagree with you on Palmer. Hes washed up. His arm strength is zapped. His stats look pretty but it all comes in games like last week vs TB where theyre down by 2-3 scores all game and ends up with 400+ yards vs prevent d's. He rolled up on the Steelers the same way and at least one other one I cant think of off the top of my head.

 

I never knew you guys hated Marshall so much. Sad really.