What Dost Thou Future Hold?

lol are you trying to dethrone phinsational as the King of Homers?

 

*Option 3: we languish in mediocrity for a few more years, getting nowhere ahead, and not really getting behind either.


You forgot about that one

 

I certainly hope I'm wrong, but I'm feeling a bit deflated seeing this team seemingly falling apart and getting worse with each week. I just dont know what to believe anymore haha

 

Believe in inconsistency. It has been the one constant we can count on over the past few years. Know that within days any given Dolphins team we're watching can go from looking like contenders to pretenders and vice versa.

 

Peaks and valleys for the rest of this year. We have a rookie QB and HC and expecting anything less than inconsistency, isn't realistic.

That being said Tannehill does look like the guy. He's shown so much already that I just can't see him being worse than say a Joe Flacco kind of QB; will win you some games but won't lose you very many.

Philbin seems like he'll at least be a decent HC as well so unless we have some huge misses in the draft and fa, I can't see us not at least being a playoff team after this offseason.

 

And probably the most likely one. If recent history is any indication.

 

The one thing that bothers me about Tannehill, and yes I understand it's a product of the environment at Texas Tech and the coaching staff here, is that they are not allowing him to use his athleticism to make plays.. I counted several 3rd down plays last week where it was wide open for him to run and grab the first, and instead he forced a throw because he has been so conditioned to find an open WR rather than to take what's in front of him. I'd like the see them give more of an option to take off and run. The guy was a WR and can take a hit for gods sake.

 

Watching Tannehill, I don't get the impression that he is a franchise QB. I may wind up being wrong, but he just seems too run-of-the-mill to me. Not to say we couldn't go to the playoffs with him, but he doesn't strike me as a take-control-of-the-game kind of guy, the top-tier QB we wanted to get with that 8th overall pick. I think he can be a servicable QB, but I don't see him as becoming an elite QB.
As for Philbin, the jury is still out. He could be a great coach or he could be in over his head.
This season is a wash and we are not going to the playoffs, so I don't particularly care if we go 4-12 or 8-8 as long as we make the necessary moves in the coming offseason to get back to the playoffs next year. We need help at WR, TE, O line, and DB. That's too many holes to fill for just the draft, we have to get busy in free agency this time and bring in some quality players.

 

Disagree. He has the skillset and mindset to be elite. As stated above, I think if they allowed him to use his feet more, it could elevate him even higher.

 

I am not sure why it has to be one extreme or the other in regards to Tannehill and Philbin. They both could be decent in their positions, but still not lead this team to a SB win. If the Dolphins under Shula and with Marino as their QB couldn't win a SB. I am not sure how Tannehill and Philbin are expected to lead this team to a SB or be considered garbage if they don't.

I think Philbin will probably turn out to be a good, but not great NFL coach. Tannehill will probably be better than any all the QB's who have been with the Dolphins since Marino retired, except possibly Pennington in 2008. I just don't know if he will ever be a franchise type QB.

With the right pieces on offense and defense, I think Philbin can be a successful coach. Right now though, with the overall lack of talent on the roster, he is more likely to be fired over the next few years than he is to lead this team to the playoffs, much less a victory in the SB.

Hopefully Ross will hire a GM who knows how to select talented players for the roster. Until he does, I think Philbin's job will be in jeopardy in just a few years. It is all about talent and right now, this team just doesn't have enough talented players to be a legitimate playoff contender.

 

I didn't read this post...was it about Matt Barkley?

 

I think any of those two scenarios are probably better than what could ultimately and most likely ends up happening. Which is that they both turn out to be just average, making it more difficult to get rid of them if they turned out to be bad, but also making them not good enough to be good enough.

This team knows first hand that the worst thing you can be is average.

 

besides Tannehill and Martin, this is a veteran team, they need to do a better job of getting themselves up for games.

 

The game Sunday was a vital necessity if this team is going to learn how to play winning football. Last year's team was a 4-3 D - wannabe power running team. This team is in a first year of a transition which is just no really beginning to have an opportunity to prove its character. The fact that they have more wins now than they did at this point last season had a number of us ready to declare the team 'Ready!" Some of us had reservations - and for some the reservations for the playoffs has been cancelled. The fact is that in order for this team to become a 'winning' team, they need to learn how to pick themselves up of the field when they have just had their collective tookuses kicked all over the field - like last Sunday. That means that Thursday will tell us a lot about this year's edition of the Miami Dolphins. If they have the resilience to come out and kick @$$ on Thursday, they might have turned the corner. If they come out and battle and still lose - as in the first month of the season - there is still hope - just not the rampant giddiness of three wins in a row. If they come out flat and/or play stupidball - then every player needs to be told they are at that moment auditioning for their jobs next year. I do not think the problem is Philbin! There are some problems he has inherited from the previous staff, both in conception and in character, which need to be corrected - or disconnected.

They need to learn that idiotic behavior and sloppy play will not be tolerated. The prime example of this is number 68. No matter how good Incognito might be in the trenches, when he does absolutely stupid stuff which negates a very positive play - he needs to have his tookus kicked by the bench. I hope the coach had him running gassers for about half an hour after practice - one for each yard of the penalties he earned. The same goes for missed tackles because of a failure to play basic sound football - which it TACKLE not glam shot slobber knockers - missed catches because the receiver is running before he has the ball - and dropping the bloody thing because the runner is trying to gain one more inch by being spectacular wwhen the play has NOT worked - and it's "get what you can and get down" time.

It's also time to realize that playing cornerbacks 7 - 8 yards off the line is enabling the opposing quarterback to nibbled the defense to death like a duck - by allowing short gains consistently. We seem to be giving receivers a free run. Until they are being re-routed at the line of scrimmage - the pass D is going to play like a screen door in the bottom of the Titanic. I haven't seen one of them with quick enough reaction to give up 5 yards and then recover on a quick out, or slant for that matter. If they can't do that, they are about as useless as another udder on a boar and it's time they learned or found another line of work.

RANT OVER!

 

I look at last week's game as an anomaly. That was just too poor of a performance to truly indicate anything, much in the same way Tennessee isn't suddenly a SB contender for administering the beating.

Tannehill is a rookie QB. Very few QB's in NFL history have gone through their rookie seasons without throwing in a few clunkers. Unless this team starts playing like this more often than not, take this season for what it is. Next year should really tell us where this team is headed.

 

Tannehill needs to start getting his head in the game at all times and fighting and crawling, AND RUNINING, for first downs..those things are how you get labeled a winner..can't just do it with your arm unless your Tom Brady.

Lets go son..

 

Is it Tannehill or has the coaching staff conditioned him?

 

I am so use to your polls, that I will go with answer #2

 

I was as disappointed as anyone else on here with the Titans game, but we knew Tannehill was going to have bad games. That's part of the learning curve for a rookie quarterback. Tannehill is learning the position and I am sure he has been told to play as much as he can from the pocket by the coaches. As he becomes more comfortable with the position he will become more relaxed and will be more inclined to improvise on the fly. I know you might say Luck and RG III are playing better in their rolls but they are more experienced than Tannehill and he is still gaining that experience that they already have. Tannehill may not be a great quarterback, maybe not even a franchise quarterback but he has shown good potential. Lets see how he bounces back after a really bad game. I just wish we had a decent running game to supplement Tannehill's game. Lets see how Philbin reacts to his teams terrible game and how he prepares them for the Buffalo game.

 

The things I'm talking about need to come from him, they are split second decisions where the brain tells the feet when to go, At this point, those instincts are not firing, and those instincts, is how inferior Qb skillsets, can win ball games..

What I see him doing is trying to get the ball where it needs to be, and at times, working on ball placement, but, he's so concerned with the pass and executing it correctly, he's missing the chances to use his athleticism while keeping his eyes downfield..That to me is a highly regarded quality in a qbs repertoire...Luck has it, Ben has it, Rodgers, Bree's, It's how tebow wins games, and a rookie named Wilson has it.

We've seen it flash in 9 games, he's done it, and it was highly successful, but he needs to play with that sense of urgency in every play.

 

I can't debate that point..the kid does stand tall in the pocket, and stares nasty down the barrel...but I don't just want a pocket passer..

 

tannehill has bad games as a rooke. marino had bad games as a veteran. let's all relax. can the kid play for a year or 2 before we start wondering if he's the second coming of cleo lemon? good lord. we gave henne a ton of rope and he had half the skill set.

 

May as well relax, as there's nothing we can do about it either way. Right now, I am just accepting the fact that this team sucks and will have to claw and scratch just to get back to mediocre this season. I hope they can do something positive in the offseason or Philbin's tenure will be a short one.

 

I think anybody who saw this team in pre-season and thought massive improvement was coming was being a little naive....

When the biggest thing you have going for you is you have a soft schedule, then you are in trouble.....

 

Were discussing the Qb position and the players skillset, nothing wrong with that..take that Lemon sh&$ outta here..