What Would RGIII's QB Rating Be on the Dolphins?

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  1. shouright

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  2. ckparrothead

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    Hard to say because the Redskins have really managed him very, very well. So much of what he does is high percentage screen stuff that utilizes his feet as a threat and leverages the things he was already used to in college.
     
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  3. Stringer Bell

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    108.5
     
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  4. emocomputerjock

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  5. Fin D

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    lol
     
  6. Disgustipate

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    This, basically. The Redskins coaching staff gets a lot of credit. I think he'd perform better than Tannehill had this year in the same position, but the gap wouldn't be as big.
     
  7. shouright

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    This was supposed to be a poll, but the site malfunctioned when the poll creation page was supposed to come up. Perhaps I've started too many polls. :)
     
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  8. djphinfan

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    That depends on whether or not Sherman would have tailored the offense to fit the skillset of the Qb...

    I love RG3, and he would of been a dolphin if it was up to me, but I'm not blind to how simple the offense he is running is, would we have done the same for him?,or would we train him from the pocket apparently like what were doing with Tannehill..

    Does he have better weapons than RT, yes, the explosiveness of the players he's working with allows them to simplify the scheme and allow athleticism to take make plays, including the ones coming from his position..He is however, leading that team, has that incredible ability so players are naturally drawn to him, having the intellect to understand what he has, and how to use it, inspires teammates to wanna be their best, basically he elevates those around him.

    It might not be over a hundred, his weapons and their play making ability improves his stats relative to Tannehill.. Must take into account what kind of run game he's playing with over ours..I saw some beautiful zone blocking that the redskins were doing that I have not seen a glimpse of here...harmoniously moving down the line while the back sticks the hole is not something going on here with Reggie bush

    So I would say about 90 to 92.
     
  9. gilv13

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    Wait till D Coordinators have a years worth of tape on RGIII and we'll see if his rating is still over 100 next year.
     
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  10. Ohio Fanatic

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    The system for RGIII is working really well for him right now, like previous mentioned, that credit goes to the Shanahans. but it also works well because they drafted Alfred Morris, who right now, is better than our RBs. Those two complement each other really well. If we had RGIII in our current system, he'd be above average, but that's it IMO.
     
  11. jw3102

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    I have no idea what his QB rating with the Dolphins would be with the Dolphins, since Ireland wasn't smart enough to trade enough picks to get him. All I do know is that his rating for be much higher than Tannehill's because he is a much better QB than Tannehill.
     
  12. Paul 13

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    you should have taken your Viagra.

    As to the question... RGIII QB rating would be 66.6... :shifty:
     
  13. djphinfan

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    Really love the job there, that offense is what it was all about for me when I was wanting to evolve the wildcat offense right here, and finding the Qb that could operate it..They did both..nice job by them.

    When they add a a couple more athletes they will be able to beat you by executing a simple run based spread offense with huge misdirection principles and better athletes.
     
  14. MonstBlitz

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    I don't know, but yesterday was the first time I really got a good long look at him. Holy **** is he fun to watch. Made me very very jealous of Redskins fans. I did find his style of play though very reminiscent of Mike Vick's first year in the NFL when he took the league by storm. I'm not sure if that's just my mind playing tricks on me since they are both black athletic QBs. I think RGIII has the pocket passing skills to succeed where Vick failed when the league caught on and learned how to defend his feet (to a certain degree). Will be interesting and fun to see how his career goes.
     
  15. GARDENHEAD

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    I wanted that dude so bad.



    Wait, what?
     
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  16. alen1

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    Not sure but he can flat out play. Has everything you look for in a passer.
     
  17. HardKoreXXX

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    Stab in the dark here, ~85
     
  18. DevilFin13

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    I don't see him doing as well, but because of what ck said more than talent differences. Shanahan seems to be perfect for him. I'm not sure Philbin would get the same out of him. Though I could be wrong depending on how much Rodgers' success was due to him or McCarthy. Just plopping him down in our system, I think you'd get a bit better than what Tannehill has done, but not much. Luck, on the other hand, seems to be what most thought he would be. They don't seem to be babysitting him like we do with Tanny and Washington does with GR3.
     
  19. Stringer Bell

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    I don't think there is anything simple about the scheme they're using in Washington.
     
  20. Stringer Bell

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    This. Literally no flaws in his game at this point of his career.
     
  21. Stringer Bell

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    RG3 is much better of a passer than Vick. His accuracy is uncanny.
     
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  22. MikeHoncho

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    So basically, around 61. And he'd already be out for the season by now.
     
  23. alen1

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    Indeed. And he is being trained, to use DJ's word, from the pocket. I don't find there to be a significant difference between what Tannehill and Griffin III are doing -- there's just more window dressing on the latter.
     
  24. WhiteIbanez

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    Sherman would call a pitch to Javorski Lane.
     
  25. djphinfan

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    Bad choice of word on my part..I do think some of the principles of offense are a bit simple, the option stuff, the zone read stuff, he's just an exceptional player executing it..

    I'm enamored with the offense and the guts to run it.
     
  26. Fin-Omenal

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  27. AdamC13

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    Out of 12 games so far...3 games with a rating of 130+, 3 more games with a rating of 100+, 2 games with a rating of 90+, 2 games with a rating of 80+, 2 games with a rating of 70+, not a single game lower than Tannehill's 72.3 QB rating for the year. Whatever it would be I think it's fair to assume it would be much higher than 72.3
     
  28. Eop05

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    Here's an interesting thing I just discovered. Miami and Washington have played 2 common opponents: Cincinnati and St. Louis

    Tannehill's Pass rating in those 2 games were higher than RGIII's. *(Just noting. no conclusions are drawn from this)

    Anyway....

    I'll assume that RGIII would've won all the games that Tannehill won. Assuming the offense was groomed to his abilities, I'd say he could've won the first Jet game, the Buffalo game, and maybe the NE game.

    I say maybe the NE game because who knows how the Pats as a whole would've responded to a more potent offensive opponent.

    So I'll say that the Dolphins with RGIII are currently 7-5. maybe 8-4.
     
  29. shouright

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    Well that certainly argues against the "it's the fault of the talent around Tannehill" theory. Hell, the Redskins aren't even doing that well!
     
  30. rdhstlr23

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    I don't know, but I know we'd be in the playoffs and he'd be faring better than Tannehill.
     
  31. emocomputerjock

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    The Redskins have been a lot less lucky with injuries than the Dolphins.
     
  32. HardKoreXXX

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    While it might be fair to assume this based on RG3's rating and abilities, we also have to take into consideration how much the running game has helped RG3. The Redskins are the #1 rush offense in the NFL, after all. Incredibly, the Skins have only failed to rush for less than 100 yards in a game once this year - in a loss to the Steelers - in which they had 86 yards.

    Meanwhile, the Dolphins have rushed for over 100 yards only 4 times this year. In the interests of full disclosure, they are 2-2 in those games. The point is that RG3, while having a great season, has greatly benefited from having a great running game.

    This is why what Andrew Luck has done, to me, is more impressive.
     
  33. shouright

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    They must've been really unlucky, because they have a QB whose rating (104.4) is associated with 11 to 13 wins on a season, they're playing right at .500, and the Dolphins, who've been a whole lot less unlucky with injuries, have a QB whose rating (72.3) is associated with 4 to 6 wins on a season, and they've already won 5 games in only 12 outings.
     
  34. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    They did lose three of their best defensive players, including their best pass rushers.
     
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    ...or how RGIII has helped the running game.

    These things don't work in only one direction.
     
  36. djphinfan

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    when we played Washington last year we beat them pretty solidly in all phases, grossman couldn't threaten our defense..it gives me some data when it comes to who has a better team around them.
     
  37. HardKoreXXX

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    The Dolphins lack talent on offense, the Skins lack it on defense. Which side of the ball lacking talent would hurt a QB more?
     
  38. HardKoreXXX

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    True, though they've been running the ball well all season. Morris and that O-Line have been pretty good. It's helped him on playaction.
     
  39. shouright

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    Defense, because when you get down by a significant margin on the scoreboard, you have to mount a comeback with your passing game, which makes your offense one-dimensional and typically reveals the weaknesses of your rookie QB.
     
  40. emocomputerjock

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    They have been REALLY unlucky. You can see their current injuries here: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/was/2012.htm
     

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