Sports Buzz: Fins Unlikely to Sign Any FA Wide Receiver

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  1. oakelmpine

    oakelmpine New Member

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    Not at Miami. We will not get but one single national TV game next year just like this year, the mandatory Thursday night game.

    Tannehill has a lot of marketable things going for him. His looks should have gotten him a ton of commerical opportunities this year, but because he's in Miami (which these days is the NFL hinterland) he's had not a single TV commercial. We've seen Luck & RGIII all over TV, and I have even seen one with Weeden and another with Russell but NONE with Tannehill. His wife should have also helped him get at least an opportunity to get something using a couple, and to my knowledge it hasn't happened.

    That's a shame, he's lost a ton of money making opportunity.
     
  2. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    #1. Chance to be a main receiver
    #2. Chance to be known as a savior

    Brandon Marshall was talked about all the time when he was a Dolphin.

    I haven't seen one commercial with Luck or RGIII.

    Also, who is Luck, RGIII or Russell throwing too? Those receivers aren't stars. The QB is looked too much as a savoir.
     
  3. dWreck

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    Chad henne's TV time really made me want to buy a new A/C unit for my home.
     
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  4. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    RGIII is on every subway commercial now. sometimes big spots sometimes 2 second cameos.

    and also a shoe brand but I forget which, nike reebok etc... something like that.
     
  5. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

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    I see RG3 for Gatorade and Subway here, and he had an Adidas one earlier in the year too. I haven't seen any Luck commercials that I remember, but he apparently did one with Nike.
     
  6. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    Only one I see on commercials is RG3
     
  7. Disgustipate

    Disgustipate Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Sure. It's possible though that Gibson's performance prices him out of that range of a cheaper/lower commitment player.
     
  8. dolfan22

    dolfan22 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    That is true , so is the statement winning isn't a must though.
     
  9. oakelmpine

    oakelmpine New Member

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    South Beach ? That's an attraction to a player ? I always am confounded when I see fans write this. What player that you would want comes here because of South Beach ? I guess you don't understand the time and effort it takes to be an NFL athlete. There isn't much play time, especially during the season. Its work even on your off days (sometimes players show up at the facility on off days just to show coaches how much they want to play). And any player from any team can come here in the off-season, so South Beach is not that much of an attraction.

    All teams pay a boatload of money, so that is a non-issue.

    No state income tax - might be an issue, but it's not the tipping point for most. Cost of living here is much more expensive than many places though, so instead of paying a tax on income, you end up paying more in housing, insurance and other commodities that even a lot of that out.

    A good young QB, that will be for the most part a question mark even into next season. That means a lot of losing - LOTS of losing.

    As for competition at WR. I would hope that if they are paying me bookoo bucks I wouldn't be worried about any competition for a job.

    Now lets review.......

    - South Beach, not a good enough reason
    - boatload of money, everyone pays, not a good enough reason
    - no state income tax - but higher cost of living expenses, not a good enough reason
    - a young stud QB - well he's still a question mark, not a good enough reason
    - competition at position - if they pay me money, they will let me play, not a good enough reason

    Now for another caveat. Lets see - loser team that hasn't made the playoffs but once in the last 12 seasons, doesn't get national TV games, and gives me almost zero commerical chances to make up some of that lost money in state income tax.....

    Miami or Atlanta - I like my grits hot please
    Miami or Pittsburgh - why ask ?
    Miami or New England - please !
    Miami or Houston - are you trying to be funny ?
    Miami or Denver - Rocky Mountain High (with some of the funny weed please)
    Miami or San Francisco - I left my heart in Candlestick Park
    Miami or Indy - When is that stupid race ?
    Miami or about 7 or 8 other teams - get me away from So Fla.

    Not as attractive as you think. :wink2:
     
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  10. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    I think this is valid.. other examples include Matthews and Woodson for them. They are slow in bringing back injured players...
     
  11. oakelmpine

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    Huh ? Who said anything about eschewing the draft ?

    But they are talking about eschewing Free Agency completely and at one position I believe its more vital to use FA than any other, because of the bust frequency that happens with WR's. Just look at the track record of Ireland in that dept. so far. His drafts of WR have been basically a bust, with only Hartline as the lone star (if you call him that).

    Bess was a free agent.

    But you would rather they not be looking there. Okay.....enjoy the losing.
     
  12. ToddPhin

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    No, 15th. So you'd rather have Jon Baldwin than Pouncey just b/c he plays WR? :unsure:

    Pouncey isn't "very good". He's elite. He's a freaking 300+ pound center who can pull out in front of Reggie Bush for cryin out loud. You build winning teams with guys like Pouncey. It's beyond ridiculous to knock the drafting of Mike just b/c you don't like Ireland. Trivializing the importance of the trenches after the terrible Oline season we had in 2010 makes me question your understanding of the game WADR. We had one of the worst run-blocking units in the league that was terrible on creating yards on 1st down (which statistically leads to a high rate of drive failures) and they couldn't protect the QB for crap. You have a guy like Pouncey sitting there on a silver platter to help address this major problem and you'd say no thanks? Stick to Madden.

    Furthermore, being drafted in the first round does NOT mean a player is destined for greatness, so stop taking Pouncey's eliteness for granted. Would you like the long list of busted 1st rounders taken 15th or higher?

    Is this your way of answering, yes, that you'd rather have Michael Floyd?

    no it doesn't

    Here, let's go back 1 more year to 2010.
    Pick #28 Jared Odrick- contributing starter to a solid defense. --------- #38 Arrelious Benn. 4 catches 26 yards this year.
    Benn was the highest rated receiver on the board when we took Odrick at #28. Benn was the only WR drafted from our #28 pick through #59.
    Even with Misi at #40, there wasn't a receiver drafted until 20 picks later.
     
  13. oakelmpine

    oakelmpine New Member

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    I guess you don't watch a lot of ESPN......

    Andrew Luck :

    [video=youtube;UQbQv8NLjaw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQbQv8NLjaw[/video]

    RG III has contract with Subway

    [video=youtube;LPldr7Vq0BU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPldr7Vq0BU[/video]

    Tannehill has :

    ZIPPO.......
     
  14. oakelmpine

    oakelmpine New Member

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    Same as Dan Uggla ? Man those were bad commercials.......
     
  15. Bpk

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    Man, I love that Luck commercial. Luck is great. -sigh-

    Anyways, QB-envy aside... what did those commercials have to do with Wrs?
     
  16. VManis

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    Its also a function of who the player's agent is and how much they want to do commericals. Brady Quinn was all over the place after he was drafted by Cleveland
     
  17. dolfan22

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    Just another player adding his opinion : Tim Bowens said the Dolphins need a No. 1 receiver and a better tight end.
     
  18. pacadermng67

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    Im gonna need a new pair of pants if Hopkins falls to us in the 2nd.
     
  19. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    I do listen to everything Tim Bowens says. One of my favorite players
     
  20. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    I still support the idea we sign a FA and draft a WR in the first two rounds. Let the young guy learn and play situationally while giving Tannehill the succeed. Mike Wallace for the right price is a no brainer, imo. While not an elite #1 in the same way Megaton/Fitz/Johnson are, he does have elite skills. Skills were desperate for.
     
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  21. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    You better, or he will dip you in BBQ sauce and eat you.
     
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  22. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    From the stories I have heard from the Dolphisn players, I wouldn't tell him that.
     
  23. Jaj

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    At worst you would have a slot receiver, a decent #2, and a deep threat. My preference would be that Hartline becomes a fourth WR and that a rookie takes the #2 spot. I don't care if it's a first rounder even. Having that kind of speed, play-making and explosiveness on offense would give the team a big kick start. It still leaves you with a few picks to upgrade at DE, FS, and CB. Sign some depth for the OL and go with it.
     
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  24. unifiedtheory

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    I agree with the "build through the draft" ideal and I agree that is a decent drafter. That said, at some point he has to hit on a free agent. You need to sprinkle the roster with free agents, everyone does it.
     
  25. Dolphins1Beatles

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    James Jones would've been a nice addition when he was a free agent. His 2 Touchdowns today are one less than the entire Dolphins WR corps.

    Maybe Ireland didn't make an attempt because he thought he'd be another "4, 5 and 6"?
     
  26. Aquafin

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    the poor house
    I agree but how much is it the meddia trying to run the orginaztion because the media sure seems hell bent on the team doing stupid things they wanted Tannehill and it seems like they ran our draft and with our clowns in the front office that would not suprise me.
     
  27. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    Were ****ed if we draft Keenan Allen with our first.
     
  28. mroz

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    Jeff [Ireland] and Joe [Philbin] really value draft picks, and Jeff believes he’s good at it. If you hit on rookies, you have those guys for four years, at [affordable] cap numbers.”

    And if you miss you end up with a crappy team. You have to have a mix of FA and drafted players to be successful in the NFL
     
  29. mroz

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    why?
     
  30. mroz

    mroz Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    BTW, if Ireland is looking down the road 2014 is the year to go after WR's not 2013. BUT fact of the matter is that I doubt he survives another sub 8-8 season.
     
  31. jw3102

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    Bowe has had a mediocre season because the Chiefs are a terrible football team, with a terrible QB. I think his receptions would certainly improve next season if Tannehill was throwing him the ball. Wallace also has suffered because of the three different QB's the Steelers have had to play with this year because of injuries to their starting QB. The Steelers overall offense has been mediocre for much of the season.

    I know I would rather see the Dolphins pay Wallace top money to come to the Dolphins, than pay Hartline $6 million dollars a year, as was suggested by a poster on a different thread. I would certainly have more confidence in Bowe or Wallace than any WR drafted by Ireland. The next time Ireland drafts a quality #1 or #2 receiver will be the first time it has happened. Hartline is the best WR the Dolphins have drafted in the last five years and he would only be a good #3 receiver on the better teams in the NFL.
     
  32. ToddPhin

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    James Jones wasn't a FA this year.... and he re-signed with his Packer team that won a SB.
     

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