Exactly. And at the end of the day, we still have ammunition. That's never a negative. For all the core players we lost, we still won 7 games with a rookie QB and HC. We're in good shape.
He needs to keep soliciting outside help if he doesn't know what he's doing. At least there are more reports of him leveraging others' knowledge. I hope it helps.
Exactly, his default is safety, and his instincts for drafting playmakers just looks sketchy I don't hate the man or what have you, I WANT him to succeed and improve the team.
I can only speak for myself and what my criteria is. I think thing things he has done to go against convential thinking say more about him as a GM then when he follows suit with what everyone else is thinking. I grade him more on those sucesses and failures more so then the others. I will not give him credit or blame for passing on somebody that most everyone else did. Overall I consider him a below average GM. I dont expect much out of this offseason with him running it.
What I find funny is Al Davis' mantra that speed kills and his unrelenting commitment to such was highly ridiculed by everyone. My my my how things have changed. The NFL is shifting towards the old man's 'senile' state the traditional Pacellian mould of what a player really is, the same one we are criticizing Irelend for, is becoming a thing of the past. Maybe old man Davis had it right all along?
So you're saying that, for example, Randy Starks can't play in this defensive scheme? Because before his mother died near the end of the season, he was kicking all kinds of ***. Jeff Ireland did not foreplan 2012 as the final year of so many contracts because he somehow anticipated changing from Tony Sparano to Joe Philbin.
Sure that's exactly what I'm saying. My stance is entirely Randy Starks based. Kudos for boiling it down so intelligently.
No, not really.... this is depending on who we resign/replace. Hardly huge needs when you have pro-bowl caliber players at almost each one of those positions. We could use some help, but every roster has its weak spots..... Some people just can't understand or accept that.
I'm not neutral on Jeff Ireland but I'm not delusional either. He's here. Rick Spielman was almost ran out of Minnesota but he's made some good draft choices (I think talent was always his strong suit wasn't it?). They still don't have a great passing game, and they'll need a replacement for AP soon, but I'm willing to give Ireland this year to find our AP, our Percy Harvin (without the headaches ... pun intended). Can he? So far he hasn't been able to. Is it Miller? We'll see.
OK, if you're going to be so intellectually dishonest as to dismiss the concept of an example, what's the point in even replying?
I find it funny....no typical...you are accusing me of being intellectually dishonest. And yes, he absolutely did forestall signing some guys to extensions. I know, I know, GMs never sign anyone to an extension before their contract is up....especially when there's so many coming up due. Its so rare, I'm clearly intellectually dishonest for even thinking it. My bad.
Again, Jeff Ireland did not foreplan so many contracts to expire after the 2012 season because he anticipated going from Tony Sparano to Joe Philbin. The only way your argument makes any sense is if you believe Ireland identified in advance that these specific expiring players would not play well under a head coach not named Tony Sparano. The players whose contracts are expiring are fully capable of playing well under Joe Philbin, because many if not all of them did just that. Your argument as stated, such as it is, does not make sense.
He's saying that Ireland chose not to re-sign them prior to now b/c they were brought in to play for Sparano and he wants to see how/if they'd fit in on Philbin's team before committing to them long term. Its both prudent and not hard to follow. A GM does more than just pick "good" players. He picks players best suited to what the Coaching Staff wants. Sparano had a style/scheme and Philbin has a totally diffferent one. So while Ireland may love Hartline or Smith or Fasano, if they're not a good fit in the eyes of the HC then they probably will be let go. Gates was a guy that Ireland was high on but Philbin had no use for him. Vontae was a first round pick who was immediately benched by the new staff and Ireland ended up getting rid of him. It happens. So why sign these guys to a big extension only to have your HC come in and say Nah, hes' not really what I'm looking for. It's not like any of our FA's set the world on fire and will be impossible to re-sign if they hit FA anyway.
So let me get this straight...... Jeff Ireland, the GM, signs players to contracts, yet somehow had no idea so many of these same contracts were going to be up around the same time, and if he did know they were, then he didn't think to sign any of these players to extensions, even though he has in the past....because why, Desides? Is he illiterate? The dumbest person ever? To busy eating babies? If what I said still doesn't make sense, might I suggest some ginkgo biloba?
You're finally catching on. All these guys are way smarter than Jeff Ireland's dumb ***. Just give em' a shot, 3 years...Championship.
I mean its one think he's bad talent evaluation or whatever, but to imply that these contracts just surprised him is beyond ridiculous.
