A.J. Francis, 309-pound Dolphins rookie, wants to show off his body

There's so much wrong with what I just read it's not even worth it, maybe one day his fatass will realize that if he wasn't such a fat *** he might have a job as a pro athlete.

Dumass.

 

You called it^

 

What a terrible message this guy is sending to America's youth. Just because Mexico supplanted us as the fattest country in the world, we shouldn't be so flippant about such a serious issue.

Francis is a role model. He should know better. I hope Philbin in addresses this immediately

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He doesn't seem that fat for 309.

 

He's lucky he even got a chance to try out, if it was me, he wouldn't..I mean if you don't have the basic intellect to correlate being a pro athlete and training and eating to do so, your an idiot and I wouldn't want you on my team..don't care if I miss out on some players that are exceptions..this lack of understanding is unacceptable in the sport..

 

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OK, I'll stop now

 

Dude, how many 310lb. players don't have much body fat?

 

That looks like all beer weight to me.

 

Yeah, well I don't really care about his eating habits or physique, as long as he can play football at a high level. The young man needs to let his play give him his 15 minutes of fame, not his fat azz...

 

Oh uh...I feel a law suit coming !!!

 

"Dats a Fargin twick question!!!"

 

the point is it's impossible to play at your personal highest level if your an admitted fat ***, which is completely moronic if you think about it, and disgustingly lazy.

 

Vince Wilfork says hello.

He is right, this idea that you should look like a bodybuilder to be an athlete is outright bull****, I can recall a heavy, mid to late 40's George Foreman whipping those body builder types asses in the boxing ring.

Gosh, guess he did not get the whole "Rocky" workout memo.

 

I don't agree with this. You cannot add muscle mass without adding fat at the same time. The number one priority for a guy like Francis is maintaining his 300lbs. Ideally you want 300lbs of muscle, but in reality its a very rare thing to see. I'm sure Francis could lose the fat if he wanted, but he'd also end up a lot weaker.

 

I would pay to see dj kick Wilfork out of camp because he doesn't have the ideal body of an athlete. Sometimes with some positions, it's not about six packs. It is about core strength and leverage. You gain leverage with weight. As long as you have the core strength to carry the weight around, you will be better at your DT, OG, etc. positions before a P90X session rather than after.

 

Did you miss the part where I stated the exceptions, I get that there are some players that can play ball and be fat, however, it certainly doesn't mean they are at their peak, cause their not, and that doesn't mean they have to be a freakin body builder, it means their personal best, whatever that comes out looking like, so be it...not hard to understand.

 

Hard to have it both ways Deej, their peak could easily be what you would consider not well conditioned.

 

You are missing the point..

Every body has an optimum genetic projection, if you are not doing the necessary things to get to that optimum level in pursuit of a pro sport, you are a lazy Putz, if you want to sustain a certain weight like 300 lbs then yes, your frame has to substantiate that and your caloric intake will have to Reflect that to sustain, however, it does not mean what's underneath cannot be at it's optimum level, You can certainly up your caloric intake and sustain a heavier weight by eating great foods and a scientific approach.

I don't know this kid, maybe that's what he's doing, but he sure doesn't sound like he gets what I'm talking about.

If your trying to be a pro athlete or you are one, It's really not hard to eat right, and workout correctly relative to what weight your body can realistically project to without sacrificing athleticism.

 

Show me their body and I'll tell you whether their doing everything they could be doing to be at their peak performance.

 

just because someone is great doesn't mean they couldn't actually be better...

 

packing on 300+ lbs of lean muscle is pretty tough to do. You're crazy if you think it's just a matter of eating right.

 

Touche.

 

I didn't say that it was...I'm saying if your goal is just to get to 300lbs and you don't have the musculature underneath to support the weight, or your body fat ratio is completely unbalanced then your not reaching your athletic potential by just being 300lbs..

 

Not really. Look at powerlifters. They look fat because they carb so much. Mostly because they have to. Olympic lifters as well.

 

I know Olympic power lifters are doing everything possible from a scientific approach to reach their ultimate strength level, I don't understand what were disagreeing with at this point.

 

I get the point. I'm saying that there are very, very few people on this earth who's optimum genetic projection is 300lbs+. Most guys like Francis have to operate at a caloric surplus to get above 300. Thats going to result in gaining fat.

 

body fat ratio. You are arguing he can't be optimum because of his body fat ratio. I am telling you, look at powerlifters and olympic lifters. they look fat and have more of it because they eat more carbs and calories. They have to to lift the weight they do. In other words, their optimum isn't your idea of an optimum. Which can hold true for football players as well.

 

and right on cue



arnold has spoken.

 

I thought this was a light hearted joke and I found it pretty funny. I don't think he was trying to make a serious point in any way. Apparently AJ Francis was well known for being a locker room comedian in college, I'm guessing we'll get some more on him during camp when the reporters need to fill column space, much like Jarrell Root last year.

 

He'd of been Haloti Ngata, imo.

Nobody should be expecting him to have more lean muscle at that weight but he can def improve his body a lot.

At 300lbs and solid you'll def have some more body fat but you'll also be way more developed than the guys in question.

 

This is ThePhins where the slightest thing is serious bizness!

 

I understand that, but that doesn't mean guys like Francis are at their best in terms of what they can do on a football field, if the guy is eating like sh&$ to get over 300lbs, not doing everything a person can do in the gym,then his body fat ratio will be unbalanced and he's not going to get his personal genetics best..

What your saying is to sacrifice talent, quickness and energy, for some extra girth that may or may not add some strength..I don't believe in that, if your body doesn't project to be that 300 pounder you covet, than you don't try to fit a square peg in a round hole, you wait.

 

You'll see them lining up on Sundays, and once again, they take..hits..lots of them, fat is padding that helps to cushion the blows, this was the lesson one should take away from Foreman's comeback.

When you are going to be hit, it is better to have padding or you wear down.

 

Wrong, not the least of which being they still power lift and cardio, and basically a 280 pd OL who is "maximizing their genetic potential" will be destroyed by a Paul Soliai who outweighs them by 70 pds whether or not Soliai is "maximizing his genetic potential".

 

Not everyone can have a bubble like Wake.

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I'm sayin Luck you don't have to worry about power lifters because you know if their Olympic ones their doing everything possible to build the core muscle groups in the body, they are doing everything from a scientific approach to lifting the weights so any fat is going on top of an incredibly strong structure..

I haven't studied the kids body, haven't tested his ratio, don't know his workout routine and for how long he's been doing it..but my main point is if he or any player is slacking in that dept, and their eating to just add weight, then they are not getting the optimum level that their bodies could produce.