A.J. Francis, 309-pound Dolphins rookie, wants to show off his body

Who said they had to, I said everyone's genetics has a projected peak level..the goal of any pro athlete should be to reach that level because their body is the vehicle to their performance level.

 

Still you'd agree that a bubble like that wouldn't hurt

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I understand the concept your speaking of, and nothing that I have said would deter that from happening relative to the body..

It's about finding the right balance and ratio to perform all duties..

It all must start with 100 % commitment to the gym..If you want your 320 lb nose tackle, you make sure that the weight is solid weight, you make sure the approach in the gym is there, and it's not just empty weight,

A lot of players don't do that, players don't do it in college, even though they know they have the talent to be drafted, it's a disgrace, it's disrespectful to their employers, the fans, their families, and their bank accounts..It's the least you can do if your going to be a pro,

 

He's an elite NT as it is, has been for years.

 

An *** like that is the perfect combination of rare genetics and scientific training and nutrition.

 

No, the "empty weight" is what the opponent has to deal with, a bit like dealing with a bag of concrete, it just sits there and you have to try and move it.

Do note, when players retire, they have a saying "..you don't see to many 300 pd 60 yr old men.."

IE, once retired they settle back down to their ideal weight to avoid health problems from carrying all of that additional muscle and fat.

 

Perhaps you may want to consider getting to know him before overreacting to comments he made that he even said were lame attempts at humor. This guy was a really good college DT from what I saw and has ability that would have made him worthy of being drafted. He was a very good signing for us as a UDFA.

 

Arnold was/is a sociopath. I could give a fck less what he says about anything. Crappy actor too.

 

No chance. Name a better action actor in the 90s not named Stallone.

He's also right in his statement whether you like him or not.

 

I'd call diagnosing people you don't know pretty sociapathic.

 

I don't need to personally know him. His antics when he was bodybuilding are well documented if you care to research them.

 

sociopath is pretty extreme. I think maybe you just don't like the guy and are throwing out over the top hyperbole rather then being honest about this whole thing.

 

Yes, he is, I agree. I let my personal disdain for him get in the way when I replied.

As for his acting ability, that is my opinion and I'm sticking with it. Sly Stallone rocks btw. Always had a lot of admiration for him.

 

I took a position against a hypothetical, it's not directed towards Francis unless his comments are reflective of what were talking about.

 

There are varying degrees of sociopathic behavior and I am not the first person to use that term to describe him in those days.

 

Sly has a lot of good films but def his fair share of bombs and wtf moments.

 

sure and it's still pretty freaking extreme. Read the psychological profile for anti social personality disorder.

 

Are you saying that a man is projected to be better at football at 320/30% than at 300/20%?

 

All from the safety of your computer chairs, we've got ourselves people diagnosing other professionals as sociopaths, and lazy out of shape fat guys.

Well done, ThePhins! A new low!

 

Dude there is nothing wrong with being fat. It's sad that as a society we can't accept people for how they look. I myself am not fat...so it isn't a self defense. It just kind of irks me how society judges people who arent their ideal of perfection.

I bet every poster including myself here has at least one character flaw we could point out and say "Well if he wasn't X he could be Y"

 

Que? Obesity kills a lottttt of people with what comes with it.

 

You think people on the internet aren't intelligent or don't work out?

 

For his position, absolutely, his percentage of body fat is not as important as his percentage of muscle in proportion to his overall weight.

For example Reggie White ran neck and neck with Albert Lewis in a 40 yd dash, one weighed 200 pds, the other 300+ pds.

 

lazy, out of shape pro athletes exist, there are plenty of failures and busts that come from it directly..you think because I'm typing it and not confronting the player I should not express my opinion about how unprofessional it is.?

 

I'm absolutely not judging the non athlete here Alex, my harshness in my criticism goes directly to pro athletes scamming their employers.

 

I disagree...your Reggie white example does not apply considering you do not know his ratio..

Percentage of muscle is the same thing as percentage of body fat.

 

It all starts with parents, a lot being uneducated ones passing their own principles down to their children, a lot of it being just lazy, not wanting to cook , obesity in children is a form of child abuse imo..I do understand that families with low incomes don't have the options of a lot of healthy expensive foods, however there are still alternatives.

 

It is, in the other direction, if body fat is "X" percentage, then muscle has "x" percentage as well.

The muscle is what matters, which is why power lifters "look" fat, but in fact have a lower fat/muscle percentage then one would think.

 

your confusing me.

Your last sentence makes absolutely no sense and contradicts itself....I understand that muscle is what matters, but you just got done telling me you'd rather have the guy with a higher fat percentage.

I do understand the importance of fat in terms of leverage and some added strength, however not to the point of compromising agility and quickness..and lets stop talking about power lifters, this is football and it requires movement skills.

 

First if all that old 'gain dirty mass' excuse for 'having to' gain fat with muscle has been debunked. You can gain lean mass, if you give a **** about diet.

And him having to be weaker is b.s. too.

It takes planning, and actual effort to eat properly and cleanly to meet your physical goals.

Thats the issue I have with this kid. Anyone who dislikes vegetables is being stupid about caring for the body he makes a living off of.

Can he get by being fat and eating poorly? Maybe but he will be suboptimal and more likely to break down and not recover or repair his tissues optimally either. If that were genetics, fine. But when its his choice, I have a major problem with that.

 

Is this an elaborate ruse to see fat men naked?

 

yes I would need to see them in tightie whites, ya know to be accurate and all.

 

There is something wrong if you are mainly fat because you are doing the opposite of self care.

There is 'big but healthy' and just plain self-neglect or abuse in diet and lack of exercise.

If you are big and fit, then i have no issue with it.

And if you are big and self-damaging in your eating and lack of physical self care, but own and admit it, I can at least respect the honesty and accountability.

But if you are badly out of shape because of your own crappy habits, but want to act like its 'cool' or should be labelled okay somehow, that irks me.

 

It's that combined w kids also being lazy and just sitting on their asses.

Kids all eat garbage at times but you can tell which ones play outside and which are addicted to xbox.

 

Not to mention diet affects hormones which control moods, ability to focus, and being tired or energetic.

By the way, exercise affects hormones which control moods, ability to focus, and being tired or energetic.

So diet and exercise combined can lead to hormones that have you tired, foggy and irritable or focused, energetic and upbeat.

I saw it in teenagers I life coached and who ate like **** and never exercised. Change the diet and exercise and their marks improved, they got along better with friends and family, were happier, etc etc.

 

If people don't think there's a huge link between the shape your mind is in and the shape your body is in, they've probably never gotten the benefits of working out.

 

Ronnie brown.

 

80's maybe, but I preferred Wesley Snipes in the 90's. After 91 Arnold had only 1 movie I liked (True Lies). Where as Snipes was rocking it with Blade, New Jack City, Demolition Man, Rising Sun, Passenger 57 etc. Honorable mentions to Bruce Willis (Fifth Element, Last Boy Scout, 2 Die Hard sequels), Jackie Chan (Rumble in the Bronx, Super Cop and Rush Hour) and Nicolas Cage (The Rock, Con Air and Face/Off over 2 years).

 

Sure..if one is attending a spin class.

At some point hopefully it begins to sink in that Staffs want these players as large and as athletic as possible, meaning if they want their G at 330, they will be at or near 330, there are precious few freaks who can be that large and have a low body fat percentage.

Add in, once again, fat is padding, when you are being hit by 300 pd plus guys and hitting them as well, a player simply has to have it around their upper torso and hips. Practically the only way they can maintain that weight is not to eat "lean, healthy, protein" etc, they eat high fat foods to keep the weight on.

Nate Newton for example, played at 340ish, after he retired, down to the mid 200's.