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PS4 unveiling Feb 20th

Discussion in 'Gaming Forum' started by finyank13, Feb 2, 2013.

  1. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Who cares if it comes with an hdmi cable, really. They cost like $5-8 to get a decent one shipped. :lol:

    I mean, it shouldn't be a selling point IMO.
     
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  2. Deus ex dolphin

    Deus ex dolphin Well-Known Member

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    Sony should get some mileage out of the PS4 being the only nextgen system with an MLB game. Not that it would be a selling point for me, but it doesn't seem that 2k Sports is going to continue doing a baseball game, so who picks up the slack on XboxOne? Or is MLB such a niche market that even EA won't bother?
     
  3. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Most people still think you have to buy the $50 Monster cables at Best Buy. I'd imagine a lot of people spent the previous generation using component cables.
     
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  4. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    that and the inconvenience of having to get one....what can I say I am lazy. Although wont need one this time around.
     
  5. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    So, right now, the PS4 OS takes up... nearly half of available system RAM.

    This is pretty extreme. Nearly half of the system's memory is taken up by stuff running in the background. Either memory optimizations haven't happened yet (since the system software is still in development, too), or there's a LOT going on in the background. Or, a third option, Sony isn't very good at software--which is true, and is Microsoft's big advantage.
     
  6. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I honestly think it's a little of all 3.
     
  7. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Could be. Though they might be gambling that Johnny Generic is more interested in getting to Facebook faster than he is in ultra large resolution textures.
     
  8. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    I'd be surprised if it was that high at release date, or soon thereafter.
     
  9. jdallen1222

    jdallen1222 Well-Known Member

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    If they sacrifice ram so facebook can be constantly on in the background well then that just sucks. I dont like the direction this is heading.
     
  10. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Will you be able to customize it and save some RAM? I don't have facebook.....or is it something you have to have running in the background?
     
  11. jdallen1222

    jdallen1222 Well-Known Member

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    I don't know. Im just basing that off of other comments I read in here, maybe I should do some fact checking before I react.
     
  12. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    No it is a pretty good point, it is an interesting thing you bring up...
     
  13. Phinz420

    Phinz420 New Member

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    Considering the difference in the two consoles from RAM usage by the OS is a mere 500MB out of 8GB total memory, I think that is a minimal difference at most. This coming generation simply uses more background memory than in the past.
     
  14. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    45% of system memory dedicated to background processes is insane. This is not a case of "simply using more background memory than in the past." This is a massive escalation.
     
  15. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    One that they are focusing on even though they aren't necessarily saying it, it seems...
     
  16. Phinz420

    Phinz420 New Member

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    It is a huge escalation, but the point of the post was to say it wasn't just Sony with the issue here about OS RAM usage. Both of them are using 3GB+ RAM in the background processing.

    Could it be related to making these consoles more scaled towards "entertainment machines" and less focus on pure gaming? It has always been said that the reasoning for low RAM usage in previous consoles was due to the simplicity, being designed just to play game software.
     
  17. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    The previous generation had low RAM usage because they had low total amounts of RAM. Remember, the 360 and PS3 are eight years old—nine going on ten if we're counting the time their development projects began.

    An effective RAM total of ~4 GB detracts from the consoles' technical appeals, particularly since they've both intentionally skimped on the CPU side.

    Let's hope this is just the current overhead because the system software is still in development. I can even accept lower amounts of total available system RAM for the first year or two, since those games are going to be cross-gen with the PS3 and 360. But by the time we hit late 2014, if the OS is still sucking up 3.5 GB, that's going to be an issue.
     
  18. jdallen1222

    jdallen1222 Well-Known Member

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    Is it too late to recommend to Sony multiple hdmi outputs, so people with more than one TV can have multiple screens/views, not have to use split screen if using two players? Also give the option of changing the screen layout, so a TV or monitor can be turned on it's side.
     
  19. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Yes. This is a niche case. Use an HDMI splitter box.
     
  20. jdallen1222

    jdallen1222 Well-Known Member

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    Would that give additional viewing angles, or just duplicate the original output signal?
     
  21. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Duplicates the original output signal.
     
  22. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    So I guess Toys R Us (I think) in Europe (or at least the UK) has the ps4 coming out on Dec 13th and Xbox One as Nov. 29th.

    I am not sure if either system is having a worldwide release, but I'd hate for the ps4 to come out so late here.
     
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  23. jdallen1222

    jdallen1222 Well-Known Member

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    I just may venture in PC gaming then, we'll see.
     
  24. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    I had heard 11/13/13 but that was a few ago....there is a event later this month where it is rumored the date to be released....

    dude as long as it is here by March of next year, so The Show is out!!
     
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  25. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Also Pete doesn't overseas usually release after the US? Like in general with electronics?

    I think the iPhone 5 was available overseas after us...if I am mistaken....
     
  26. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    North America tends to get new consoles before Europe, but not always.

    I wouldn't interpret the purported European dates as being in any way relevant to the NA release dates. I'd be a little surprised if both consoles weren't out before Thanksgiving here.
     
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  27. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Yes, we usually get consoles before Europe, but sometimes there are worldwide releases on the same date.

    It's all moot anyways because TRU apologized to both Sony and MS (likely at their request) for releasing those dates, as both appear to be wrong.
     
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  28. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    I got a email notification from Gamestop about how there is an event at the Sands in Vegas where the public will be able to play both the PS4 and Xbox1

    http://www.gamestop.com/expo
     
  29. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    Aren't you a little old for video games.
























    BTW does anyone know if Madden is reinstating Franchise Mode?
     
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  30. Mainge

    Mainge Season Ticket Holder

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    They never got rid of it, did they?
     
  31. Clemsonpanther

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    they are in a different way. Go into CCM, and its called owner mode.
     
  32. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    If you can't do a franchise draft it's not the same thing.
     
  33. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    come on mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, my generation WAS video games :lol:.....I will always play video games....
     
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  34. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    I'm 38 and still playing, doofus. :tongue2:
     
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  35. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    I was cleaning out so old stuff the other day and I found that robot that came with Gryomite....hahah remember that thing!!!!???
     
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  36. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    LOL. Nerd.

    Hey, remember these babies?


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    Remember the sound the ball makes when it breaks through?
     
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  37. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    That robot was to effing slow for that game. I used the the button rig as foot pedals, as I'm sure everyone else did.
     
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  38. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
     
  39. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Release date is Nov 15th in North America. Announced a little but ago at Gamescom.
     
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  40. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    :up:.......

    CAN'T WAIT (Bart Scott voice)
     

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