On Finheaven lol!! http://deadspin.com/is-richie-incog...source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
Perhaps this entire debacle will be a blessing in disguise. Finally the ammunition needed to blow this entire thing up again.
The real issue is if Rich knew the kid had real emotional problems and took jokes way to far, and couldn't tell from his reaction that the kid was hurtin, and continued jokin around on the guys looks, then he's probably in the wrong and deserved the suspension..
I'm in position to be able to verify that the poster who posted that on FH is very likely Richard Incognito Sr.
He's a parent. He most definitely has a dog in the race. But it's very likely that he didn't say anything that Richie Jr. had not told him.
Too sad it hurts our beloved Dolphins, but this story is a perfect example of how things can go wrong in the modern world of social media. We desperately need Goodell to burn down the www. Where is he when you need him?
http://www.finheaven.com/showthread.php?346477-Incognitos-dad-blasting-Martin-on-FH Here is the thread lol. You can't make this up. It's legendary.
I could care less about losing Martin or Richie... but if Pouncey really is doing drugs, that is gonna hurt.
Oh I agree. But unfortunately for Richie he's defending him in about the worst way possible. Wishing AIDS upon Ireland and Philbin and using the "black people call each other the n-word" routine to defend your use of it are not good looks.
This whole thing is bat**** insane. I pretty anxious to read the details of what's been really happening in that locker room.
So if what Sr. is saying is true, then that means Philbin even less likely screwed up. If Martin disclosed to Philbin that he was depressed and even possibly suicidal, then there's no way ion hell Philbin should have told the team or the effing media. And if earlier reports are to be believed its quite possible, everyone thought Martin was improving based on the fact he was participating in the pranks and getting along with the rest of the team. And then the latest episode could be Martin going from one extreme to another, as depressed people often do.
Wow. Insanity. This may be the most exciting part of the 2013 Dolphins.. If Incoginito and his father are this ignorant and stupid, I think the next step would be to cut him. Like right now.
At this point, I've come to the opinion that Incognito is probably guilty of nothing more than being an insensitive jerk in the proximity of a headcase... a headcase with lawyer parents. Incognito is a dick. That's pretty much a given. However, I'm not sure he completely deserves what's happening to him. Incognito Sr's tirade is VERY interesting.
Comes from the Top . Ross doesn't have a handle these guys, Football culture, and can't hire someone who does to run things. I for one as a fan , Dig Ritchie Incognito. He brings with him an attitude, defenses hate him for a reason. But as a person , the guy has issues. #1 for me, even if everything his dad says is true, why would you mess with a kid who tried to kill himself 3 times? Not cool. OK whatever. This season had so much promise. Now we are the laughing stock of the NFL once again.
Jonathan Martin is a small snap shot of what schools have become. They coddle kids with serious issues and if your dads a lawyer .......is a learning institutions greatest nightmare. HTF did this crazy kid get drafted by Ireland & Company?
The whole transformation of this incident of this issue, it seems, has been to a personal one between Incognito and Martin that just so happened at the Dolphins' expense. A couple things we need more information on; the conversation between Philbin and Martin during OTA, the voicemails and texts sent to Martin from Incognito.
talk is silver, silence is golden. I think Philbin and the Dolphins are doing much more things right than they are doing them wrong. I can't speak for the past, but definitely for today.
Though, judging by Sr.'s post, it seems like the n-bomb had been used on a consistent basis. I can't get behind Martin on the whole, "They make me pay for everything" angle, but I can if Jr. had been using a racial slur, Martin had asked him to stop, and he continued.
Didn't we have a poster in the Martin thread the other day who also claimed that Martin has a drug problem and tried to kill himself several times? I'm pretty sure! Sounds about the same. The Deadspin article mentions a move by the Incognitos to Arizona and the poster in the other thread here on this board mentioned a move to Arizona too. I guess he's active here too!
A) w/o 100% certainty, why is this even an issue? B) it seems people simply WANT to believe it is the Sr Incognito I recognize manipulation when I see it P13, that is why I'm rather dubious of the claim.
I hope none of it is true, even though it will cause problems for someone either way. If allegations are false then Incognito deserves some apologies and he probably won't want to remain a Dolphin. If it is true then those players deserve whatever they get. If it is true and Philbin knew about it in the spring and took no action repercussions could go deep into the organization. Either way this is disastrous for a team that is struggling with years of inept mismanagement. Its hard to comprehend how badly this could impact the team.
I have a hard time believing Wake, Starks, Ellerbe and Wheeler would allow racial BS to go down so all this N word talk sounds like crap to me.
so i don't if this was already posted, but on my Team Stream App, a notification just popped up, quoting Jason LaConfora where he says that incognito blasted JM on the mailbox with the N-word and threatened his family with text messages
Here it is guys. He is active here too and several of his posts were deleted by the Mods! http://www.thephins.com/forums/show...hilbin-about-his-issues-back-in-Spring/page13 Post #245
By themselves, each piece of evidence does seems like a stretch, but all together? That's some coincidence if it's not his dad. Read this: The birthday kind of seals it for me in my mind.