Just assuming here, but considering the background of the player, the schools he attended, the upbringing, maybe he never heard sh@& like I'm gonna pork your sister and slap your mother....so he saved it....
Thanks for your ad hominem defense of someone else's posts. I'm saying it's nothing special. Take out your iPhone (because in all likelihood, Martin and Incognito and most other players in that locker room are using the iPhone). Open a conversation that you've had ongoing for months. Keep scrolling up. The phone will load previously archived texts on demand as you keep scrolling upward. It takes a few gestures to retrieve a text message from a year ago. No foresight or planning is needed. This is one of many reasons why I think the prevailing thought on the forum is wrong. If you're going to develop a theory about the archiving and retrieval of text messages, at least have the basic technical literacy to understand how that works.
lol I know how technology works, thanks. I have an Iphone and am aware how long it goes back. However, I still delete most messages after a while unless there's one I need to save for a specific reason, like suing someone. Either way he's had this message 6 months and it now just bothers him enough to mention. Riiiiight.
If the Lions and Cardinals haven't been demoted, then we're fine. They've been ****ty for decades..............like my entire life.
First year associates at large law firms in NY, LA, washington, Chicago routinely make $250K. At least they did. Maybe the amrket has really changed with the economy, but there were people in my class from Miami (not stanford mind you) that made $175K to start at Greenberg or Holland & Knight in Miami.
I have voice mails on my phone from months ago. I just never think to erase them. And if I don't erase it immediately after listening they sit there. It's not that outlandish a thought. Now it's a bit of serendipity that those voicemails happen to be the ones saved, but it's not necessarily evidence of planning
No, first year associates at large law firms do not make $250k. And even $250k is far from $400k. Starting salaries in big firms in NY, Chicago, LA and DC are $160k (or less, depending on the firm) and first year bonuses have been less than $20k for several years. There may have been a year or two in 2005-06 or so where first years in a few places might have gotten to $250k with boom year bonuses, but that hasn't happened in a long time. And $175k for a first year at Greenberg or H&K might have been a flukish thing for a short period of time in that 05-06 time frame, but has not happened for years.
Martin's parents don't work in law firms. And of people I have known whose parents did own the firm, I have never heard of one where the kid made $400k, or anything remotely close to it, right out of law school.
Ok, whatever. Since I don't work at one of those places I can't say, other than anecdotally what I knew from years ago. Point being, Martin has opportunities for a 40 years career in something other than football that will eventually earn him a ton of money. Whether or not the remaining $1 million or whatever it is on his contract is worth "breaking the code" and having his name dragged through the mud as well is worth it, I don't know. For a guy with nothing to lose, who has no education and no future, maybe. But for Martin, I don't buy it.
Let's stick with the iPhone as the example for now. The behavior you describe is the closing of conversations, since you can't delete individual messages. However, closing the conversation is the equivalent of closing the window. The messages are still archived and accessible, mainly by reopening the conversation. One way to reopen the conversation is to send a new message the person. Say, telling him you don't blame him at all and that it's just the culture around the locker room that got to you a little bit. That would be an excellent way to regain access to those messages that still exist. So, yeah, I question the technical literacy in general of this theory.
Not the case. I can delete conversations and when I get a new message from that person or send them a new one, the older messages are not available to load there. Again the last sentence of my post is much more important than how proficient Martin is w an Iphone.
It very well could be. There's a chance it's not. I just looked at my phone, out of curiosity, and there are voicemails there back to Nov 2012. Not because I care to keep them, but whatever. I hear it, I move on. It takes longer to delete them than leave them. EDIT: Actually theres also a folder for deleted messages. Which also go back to Nov 2012. So it looks like my phone keeps this stuff a year by default.
It is the case once you tap Load Earlier Conversation. And the messages are still there. It is not tough to retrieve them at all. That's the ASM-sized hole in the theory.
Your information is incomplete. Martin's case includes text messages and voice mails. (Voice mails can be archived the same way as text messages on the iPhone, too.) You also, earlier in this story cycle, incorrectly identified text messages as emails.
The ones that hit the paper were voice mails. The ones that are in question form 6 months are voice mails. The context I was using earlier, it didn't really matter if they were or were not email, voice mails or smoke signals. You on the other hand, were trying to create a hole in a theory based on the specific fact that they were texts...when they weren't. Secondly, no one is questioning that VMs can be saved or archived. In fact, that's what Slick was saying that shows this was part of a longer plan. It was you, that tried to shoot a hole in that theory by saying how easy it is to save old texts.
Never the less, the bigger question that he and other people still want to dance around is if the messages were 6 months old, why did they just now become offensive enough to tell someone? Good luck with that one.
