Miami Dolphins executive Dawn Aponte is the woman in the middle

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  1. LiferYank

    LiferYank New Member

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    Who claimed she was the only one who could.

    FFS the amount of "men" who feel threatened by Aponte because she has breasts is astounding..
     
  2. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    I wasn't trying to blame anybody for anything. Most are referring to Aponte as a "Capoligist". I was trying to point out that maybe it not only the power thing but maybe where we sit with the cap and the roster needs, etc. Seems to me like this team is a mess. This possibility coupled with everything else: Uncertainty of the power structure, coaching, etc make the GM job not so attractive.
     
  3. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    In what way does Aponte threaten me? Please explain. It would be news to me.

    I simply think her success is being overstated. She isn't inventing cap space out of thin air. We have cap space because we uses CBA provisions available to all 32 teams and let a bunch of big contracts expire simultaneously, a year after cutting several other big contracts.

    I'm not seeing anything specialized or insightful in the cap management. It's disciplined, but that's not as difficult to accomplish as it sounds.
     
  4. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    And by the way she's not even that great at contracts/the cap. Every freaking contract has dead money tied to it, there's a bunch of other teams with better books than the Dolphins do. We are stuck with a lot of these bad contracts. But I know how it works around here, she's a Dolphin employee, so she's the greatest ever.
     
  5. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    But that's what I am saying. Salaries coming off have already been factored. We are at $106,413,729 for 2014 that includes dead money and bonus'
     
  6. LiferYank

    LiferYank New Member

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    She does more then manage the cap...
     
  7. LiferYank

    LiferYank New Member

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    Who said she is the greatest ever? Why would she have to be the greatest ever to do a good job? This is exactly the kind of **** i am talking about
     
  8. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Correct; 7 million of cap rollover from last year (your number) plus the expiring contracts.
     
  9. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    That she does. But the conversation here is about the cap.

    Please explain how Aponte threatens me.
     
  10. LiferYank

    LiferYank New Member

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    The constant belittling of what she does and the constant referrals to her as an "accountant". You do realize you are not the only poster on this forum right? My comment was not only directed at you.
     
  11. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    Additionally right now we are at $87,171,809 for 2015. Obviously we will add more to next year with new signings. We need to be careful or this could get out of hand.
     
  12. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Your comment was made in a post replying to a quote of my post. Exactly how is that supposed to be interpreted as a general statement not aimed specifically at me? Further, point out where I made these "accountant" statements and where I belittle her.

    I think you owe me an apology.
     
  13. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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  14. LiferYank

    LiferYank New Member

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    "Men" is plural. Stop being so defensive.
     
  15. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    That actually worries me a little bit, because it creates the temptation to write backloaded deals. It creates dead money in the future.
     
  16. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Then go back and edit your post to remove a quote of my post.

    Learn how this message board thing works.
     
  17. LiferYank

    LiferYank New Member

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    "Who claimed she was the only one who could.

    FFS the amount of "men" who feel threatened by Aponte because she has breasts is astounding.. "

    Two sentences. Seperated.

    First one was directly to what you quoted.

    Second is a general statement that included you.

    Sink in yet?
     
  18. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    It's sunk in that you don't know how message boards work, yes. There may also be a flawed understanding of the English language in play on your side, too. You seem to think using a plural in a reply to one of my posts somehow didn't lump me in with a group you accused of sexism. The use of a plural is actually a big problem.
     
  19. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    Not my intent to slam Aponte. But you pointed out a trend I noticed. My concern is does this become a make or break year for these guys. Because if it does, this is something that needs to be watched. It would be easy to back write in an "All In Year" and screw us for future
     
  20. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. Agreed on all counts.
     
  21. Fin D

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    I have no idea but it has no bearing on the issue at hand about Aponte overstepping her bounds or not. Whoever she reports to is her boss and the Gms boss and the HC's boss whether it be the owner or a person the owner installed to be the de facto owner.
     
  22. Stringer Bell

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    She could report directly to the GM. The problem isnt her overstepping her bounds, its that GM candidates will not be able to control her bounds. That is why you see people turning down interviews.

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  23. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    Thats just the media making stuff up.

    Now that Ireland is gone everything will be all good all day every day :-/
     
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  24. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    The VP of football operations doesn't answer to the GM afaik. I don't think that's why they are turning down the interviews either. Many teams have VPs of football operations and they don't answer to the GM.
     
  25. LiferYank

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    Could be something as simple as most GM's want their guy for the head coach and perhaps Ross thinks highly of Philbin. Doesnt mean the persective GM's dont want Philbin but he isnt "their guy".

    I would think Philbin being a lame duck would be a positive for a new GM. If Miami does well they have their coach if not off Philbin goes and the GM can get his guy in.

    All that isnt drama filled speculation though so i guess its not fun to post it ~
     
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  26. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    I'd imagine that the new GM would prefer to bring in his choice as HC. The exisiting coach might prove to be a good excuse as per potential future failure, but I see more lingering negatives than positives there. These people have to work together- then you throw in the HC AND the capologist/vp reporting straight to Ross and that sounds like a mess to me. N wonder the job opening is about as popular as the plague, it stinks with problems and lingering issues like a bad fart.
     
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  27. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    You know....

    You really have to give her some credit. Cracking that fraternity is NOT easy. She is obviously exceptionally smart...exceptionally motivated...and pretty god damned tough. I personally think shes an amazing asset to have on the team.

    And...if candidates are confused, the onus is on Ross to define and be clear about roles and report to chains. This shouldnt be a negative thing to have Dawn Aponte as part of our organization.
     
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  28. slickj101

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    Yep, seems silly to me too. Not like the new GM would be held over the fire if Philbin ****s the bed next year.

    Some of these GM candidates are guys who teams try to pry away every year too. Can't remember the last offseason we didn't hear of Khan being a candidate for a promotion somewhere. A lot of them seem comfortable w their current situations.
     
  29. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    To me it is not a surprise at all that candidates would walk away from consideration if both the HC and capologist/vp, who both by the way conspired to get rid of the previous GM, reported not to the GM but directly to the owner. Perosnally, that just seems ripe with problems to me. Lo and behold, candidates are taking a "run, don't walk" approach as they distance themselves from consideration. Is it really that big of a surprise?

    Factually, one of the things that we know is that several GM candidates bailed- does anyone remember the last time that so many candidates declined or walked away from consideration for an NFL GM position? This I would like to know.
     
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  30. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    But to be honest...I cant really tell you anything about any other teams GM search.

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  31. LiferYank

    LiferYank New Member

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    If it wasnt a popular job there wouldnt have been so many seeking it.....
     
  32. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    And dropping out? We had a great pool of candidates after the best ones went elswhere or flat out bailed? Okay...
     
  33. LiferYank

    LiferYank New Member

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    And with zero reasons listed. Sorry i dont believe rumors.
     
  34. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    But rumors are true, I have an anonymous source that says so.
     
  35. LiferYank

    LiferYank New Member

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    Classic! I actually laughed.
     
  36. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    That's not true. Each team's cap situation has more to do with how the person in charge [be it GM, owner, or HC] decides to use it. If they wanna max out the cap, it's gonna be maxed out. If they wanna mortgage the future for immediate gains, the future will be mortgaged. The capologist cant just make money disappear. It's just numbers. They're not building rocket ships.
     
  37. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    Then forget the rumors, concentrate on the facts. The Dolphins were left high and dry by several of what were considered the best candidates- from no thank you to taking the job elsewhere to actually preferring an assistant GM position in Cleveland to the GM position in Miami. That's pathetic. Sorry, do you no longer believe in facts or do you just prefer to ignore them? At some point you'll have to take your head out of the sand and see the situation for what it is.
     
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  38. ToddPhin

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    No I'm sure it's quite common for NFL execs to spurn one of, if not the greatest career opportunity most of them aspire for.

    NFL owner: "Hey Jim, I know you've spent the past 20 years of your career working your *** off for this very moment, so how would you like to be one of 32 people in the country to do what millions of others dream of amidst their immersion in Madden Franchise and run an NFL team?"

    Jim: "No thanks, I'm good for now in my lesser role in this Browns organization that hasn't won more than 5 games the past 6 years, and yes I understand an opportunity like this isn't guaranteed to cross my path again."
     
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  39. jim1

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    It's easier and plain dumber to write off any criticism of the whole Aponte issue as mysogyny and dismiss as rumor most of what has been going on, which is GM candidates bailing and clearing out as if Mongo from Blazing Saddles just rode in after eating ten pounds of beans for dinner. Several candidates flat out bailed, there's no doubt about that, it's not opinion, it happened. But then you get idiotic comments like:

    "And with zero reasons listed. Sorry I don't believe rumors." or

    "But rumors are true, I have an anonymous source that says so."

    Gene Wilder summed it up well:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHJbSvidohg
     
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  40. slickj101

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    Todd is clearly Prof X and knows everyone's thoughts and aspirations across the globe.
     

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