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****The Official 2013-14 NBA Thread****

Discussion in 'Other Sports Forum' started by Boik14, Jul 7, 2013.

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  1. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    I mean I get that, but you can't win every year, at some point you are going to be let down......

    I say this thinking they will make it to Game 7 and then who knows what happens after that.....they will win Game 6, they just got to survive Game 5 obviously....
     
  2. JShady

    JShady Miami Heat lover

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    Well said, Melo coming to Miami, so excited, now Wade can go and take his breaks, get rid of Chalmers and draft a guard.
     
  3. JShady

    JShady Miami Heat lover

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    Growing up loving the Dolphins, I never had anything to be excited about, when we went 1-15 that year everyone in school was bagging on me but then the Heat won in 06 and the big three came aboard, it was the best years of sports in my life, but you're right. Get our three peat when Melo does come, hopefully his defense doesn't cost us a ring next year.
     
  4. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    2.....
     
  5. JShady

    JShady Miami Heat lover

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    Sorry, draft two guards, I hate Chalmers so much right now, he is what Manu was last year, joke of a point guard, and Spo is still playing him because he has no one better, do you think Spo will say f it and bring in Beasley and Oden to get some fresh legs out there?
     
  6. MikeHoncho

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    That one Ravens win was perhaps the happiest I've been for a Dolphins win, (maybe slightly more Jets 2008 wk 17).
     
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  7. JShady

    JShady Miami Heat lover

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    Jets 2008 week 17 in my opinion, I was never a fan of Favre, so beating him was the thing to witness.
     
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  8. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    IMO no, you go with what got you there and hope they turn it around....Oden isn't exactly a fresh leg either....I think you could see more Lewis maybe?

    I mean right now Miami's problem is their defense, yes they have look lackluster on offense but solid defense always leads to better offense and Miami's hallmark is creating ops off of defense...

    So who can provide good defense is the answer?
     
  9. MikeHoncho

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    Phillip Merling pick 6... jizzed in mah pants. Then the game was sealed on a quick slant.
     
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  10. Mrtree

    Mrtree Juan Huron's agent

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    I wouldn't mind more minutes for Haslem. Thought he provided good energy off the bench.


    Just grasping at straws at this point IMO
     
  11. JShady

    JShady Miami Heat lover

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    You you you all all re remember whe whe when th th the He He Heat bea beat th th the Ce Cel Celtics to to two years ago an an and wo won the e e Eas Eastern Con Con Conference be being do down 3-2?
     
  12. MikeHoncho

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    Gotta take gm 5.

    That said, Green and Leonard have been the difference makers.
     
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  13. JShady

    JShady Miami Heat lover

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    Why is Wade on Diaw in the first place? That is the dumbest match up ever, it's like Tony Parker on Lebron.
     
  14. Stringer Bell

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    There is no tactical adjustment that Spoelstra can make that would fix the team's effort. Right now the Spurs have more energy and aggression.
     
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  15. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    Could it be, though, that the Heat don't lack talent? Maybe they just need to learn to expand their game. It's not the 'talent' of the Spurs that has beaten them the last two games. It's their system and their heart. So much of basketball often comes down to one on one match-ups and so, whoever can overpower the other team wins. What the Spurs are showing (and have shown for a long time now) is that you don't need a team of all-stars - the centers of their own universes. You just need to craft a team of all-moons. Players who will rotate around one another, move the ball selflessly and beat their opponents with smart play, not sheer force or skill.

    The Heat are a team of giants. They have the skill to get it done. What they can learn from this, along with the Thunder, Rockets, Pacers and a ton of other teams, is that if they get back to basics a bit, they can lift their whole game to a new level.
     
  16. Limbo

    Limbo Mad Stillz

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    The problem was that Wade lost that matchup on both ends. He couldn't score on Diaw. If he could've worked Boris like she should, the Spurs would've had to make a lineup change...but Wade got beat on both ends and the Spurs machine rolled on and didn't have to adjust to the Heat's small lineup during that stretch.
     
  17. JShady

    JShady Miami Heat lover

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    Does any think that the two day rest is what the Heat actually needs to have a shot at winning? I think this helps us out more like someone on here said earlier.
     
  18. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    [video]http://www.tmz.com/2014/06/13/carmelo-anthony-miami-heat-lebron-james-trade-rumors/[/video]
     
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  19. Limbo

    Limbo Mad Stillz

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    I think Haslem starts Game 5.

    Lewis has hit shots yea, but the Spurs aren't that scared to have his man be the first to help in the paint. Once the help comes from Lewis' man, someone rotates to run Rashard off the spot and the ball gets swung to the open man...who is Wade because the Spurs haven't bothered to rotate to him on the perimeter the past couple games. Lewis is kind of stretching the floor, but the Spurs aren't letting the ball rotate to a good shooter, and Wade isn't making them pay.

    Maybe Haslem can help the defense get back on track. Lewis is an okay one-on-one guy when he can use his length...but he's not helping them wreak havoc like they usually do. Like someone said, that's the only way the Heat are going to win this thing. Get back to the trademark trapping and agression that forces TOs and leads to easier buckets in transition.
     
  20. Limbo

    Limbo Mad Stillz

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    When you get whipped by a collective 40 points on your home court...the longer the break the better. Need some distance from that.
     
  21. TiP54

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    Might just have to play conventional again. Plant UD in the middle, Bron and Chris upfront, and Rio with Wade in the back.
     
  22. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I need more time to enjoy it! :evil:
     
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  23. Boik14

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    The heat should be going big. Thats how they can change this series. lebron at PG, Wade at the 2, Battier (make Leonard work harder on offense), Bosh and Anderson or Haslem up front. Thats their best chance right now. Leonard has been the difference maker. Battier is old but hes a pest and frustrates many players. Use him to throw a younger player off his game and see if it affects Leonard on defense too. Doing this also makes it impossible for Parker to guard anyone on the floor. He'd probably have to guard Battier for lack of any other options due to his size limitations.
     
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  24. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    Don't enjoy it too much, the NBA is not realigning and moving the Heat out of the east.
     
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  25. Stringer Bell

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    Sect - you hear anything about Wade's knee? It looked like he injured it a few games ago, and he hasn't really been the same since. When they showed video of the team walking into the lockerroom at half last night, looks like he was slightly favoring it as well.
     
  26. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    This is right. They have to slow the Spurs down. Only hope.

    I did a statistical analysis of the series before it started, and shared it with a certain radio show, and in that analysis, it said that the heat stood little to NO chance whatsoever to win the series and the likely outcome was Spurs in 5 or 6.

    These teams are evenly matched with the Heat having the high variance style. A recipe for disaster when the Spurs play well, and the Heat give even a "B" effort. They gave "D" efforts, and got smashed. Gave high "B" to "A" efforts in games 1 and 2 and got a split.

    This analysis took into account that the only way it could be reversed is if Wade outperformed his 13' Finals, and that Chalmers and Cole gave similar to improved performances from last year. Both went south.

    Mills and Parker are MURDERING Rio/Cole. 108 to 28 in simple scoring, and a +38 in Eff. Diff. These are unheard of numbers. On Wade...He is played Manu evenly for 3 games, and then had THAT game last night. Another recipe for disaster.

    Now those that follow me on Twitter know why I was fear mongering this series all year. Heat three-peat vs. anybody else. I feared they had no chance vs. these Spurs.

    Spurs have 9 guys laying above their season Eff. Avg's in these playoffs. Heat have 5. (Bron, Wade (barely), Ray, Bosh (barely), Birdman.
     
  27. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    He got kicked in the knee in Game 2...but it's fine. It;s called quick switches and a great sag defense that he didn't solve in game 4. he had the "injury" in game 3 and shot 8-12. He just sucked in game 4.
     
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  28. Limbo

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    I agree that defense is their only way back in this thing. Bosh's interior defense has been awful...usually a step slow and just not strong enough. Play the 5 guys who you think give you the best defensive lineup, and that probably involves getting bigger.

    The downside to the big lineup you list is that you're asking LeBron to handle the ball, run the offense, be the distributor, be the leading scorer AND guard Parker at the other end for most of the game. I just don't know if it's wise to ask that of one guy. I guess at this point you can risk running LeBron into the ground, cause why the hell not. Leonard's been eating him up anyway, so maybe LeBron needs that switch? So tough.

    This would also allow the Spurs to play Duncan and Splitter together more often, which could be a case of this backfiring for the Heat. But hey, desperate times...

    Spo is just in a brutal position becuase of his PGs...damn.
     
  29. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    No it's asking Lebron to be a distributor more then a scorer. He's a brilliant passer and it's the most underrated part of his game. He's tried the role as a scorer this series and it's failing. If you want a chance get bosh involved and make the spurs work on d. That's the way you can turn the series. Otherwise maybe you get game 5 but it's a wrap after thaat IMO
     
  30. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    Splitter and Duncan together is precisley what the Heat need. Heat has beaten that combo into the ground for two years.

    Pop benched splitter last year in the Finals..and did so again this year.
     
  31. Dolphin1184

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  32. LiferYank

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    That could be part of the Heats issues right now. They are not used to playing against good teams.
     
  33. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    Some truth to that. This year anyway.
     
  34. Alex44

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    Just play Heat basketball. They aren't as good as they've shown (no disrespect) and we aren't as bad as we've shown. If everything levels back down to Earth we have a great shot game five. If we win that game suddenly its a serious series again with us coming home with a chance to force game seven.

    Good thing the finals isn't first to three wins. History time.
     
  35. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    I have more faith in the Dolphins making the playoffs than the Heat getting it to a game seven.
     
  36. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    I'll make the prediction that if they win game five it goes seven. I feel confident in that. What I don't feel confident in is game five.
     
  37. TiP54

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    While I think it's unlikely, I think it's fair to say that this team has shown that it is capable to do incredible things when their backs are against a wall. I would pick this team to get to a game 7 after being down 0-3 than Dolphins making the playoffs.
     
  38. dolfan32323

    dolfan32323 ty xphinfanx

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    Can't say I disagree.
     
  39. JShady

    JShady Miami Heat lover

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    I have more faith in Greg Oden's knees holding up for 82 games than the Dolphins making the playoffs.
     
  40. sports24/7

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    I'm going to be honest, I think they still win this thing, and I'm not usually a huge optimist. I may be nuts, but I have a similar feeling to what I did a couple years ago when we went down 3-2 to the Celtics and everyone I talked to thought I was crazy for still thinking we'd win. Something tells me this is just the next part of the legend. I realize the odds are against the Heat, but my gut says don't worry.
     
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