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GAME DAY THREAD: Dolphins at Falcons

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Rocky Raccoon, Aug 8, 2014.

  1. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Guys, GUYS! Dolphins football is back in action tonight! Game starts at 7:00.

    As always with the first preseason game, not sure what to expect as far as who plays and for how long, but there is a lot to watch for tonight.

    Rejoice, fellow Dolphins die-hards, football is back!!!

    Let's go Dolphins!!!
     
  2. Berezo

    Berezo Well-Known Member

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    I will be in attendance tonight! Excited to see some live football.
     
  3. McLovin

    McLovin Resident Pats fan.

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    ....unzips
     
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  4. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

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    No one cares about the results we want to see the new offense,the new players and improvement of the old players.

    IMO even when we are losing there is always something interesting to see.:yes:
     
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  5. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    ESPN lists game time at 7 p.m......so make sure you are watching just in case they finally get something right...and you are ****ing right the wait is over...its dolphins football again !!!!!
     
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  6. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    Just hoping everyone stays healthy. And no fumbles on the first play this season, please.
     
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  7. invid

    invid Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Things I'm anxious for besides the play of the offensive line:-Earl Mitchell, Olivier Vernon, Dion Jordan.-Wake vs. Jake Matthews-The second-year corners.-Dame Williams vs. Orleans Darkwa-Offensive scheme in general-Dion Sims and Jarvis Landry.
     
  8. invid

    invid Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I love how posting on mobile just totally rapes any semblance of format when it comes to new posts.
     
  9. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Yea, I was going to say everything I have seen says 7pm EST as well.
     
  10. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Someone put McLovin back in his cage. He must have gotten out again.
     
  11. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    .....unzips










    Seriously, heres for a healthy, productive, learning experience for our team. Heres to taking one step closer to a winning, playoff-bound season! :ffic:
     
  12. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Good call. I'll edit my post.
     
  13. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    0-1 on gameday threads. Good start everybody. :pity:
     
  14. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Hey the preseason isn't just for the players and coaches.
     
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  15. dWreck

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    At this point I'm just scared, After Keller went down like that, PLEASE Stay healthy guys !

    Will be nice to finally see some things we have heard about in action, albeit limited.
     
  16. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    You literally had MONTHS to prepare. Bad show.
     
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  17. RoninFin4

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    I'll be interested to see the aspects of the game on Hard Knocks next week. Hopefully everyone stays healthy tonight. My top 3 things to see:

    1) Ryan Tannehill & new offense
    2) How the O-line looks at all levels
    3) Who is going to be the guy in a fight with the Falcons OL...and does he win?

    FWIW, I'd bet on Dion Jordan vs. Jake Matthews
     
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  18. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    It's never too early to ask... for a pill.

    Or I'm waiting until Saturday morning to PVR it, and Sunday evening to watch since I'll be out of town this weekend.
     
  19. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    I think someone was planning to start this thread and got beat to the punch.
     
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  20. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    Maybe Rocky should not act on his thoughts when they pop up in his brain sometimes. Maybe pump the brakes, and leave these kinds of things to the smart people.....that don't live in ****ing New Jersey.
     
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  21. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    I think I hit the nail on the head.

    Do you need a hug?
     
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  22. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    you know we've been waiting years for rocky to develop and he just hasn't. Rocky is the John Beck of thephins.
     
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  23. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    God they called 25 penalties last night in the Seattle Denver game...I hope to god its not like that tonight.
     
  24. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    Sick is so mad right now.
     
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  25. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    Just expect more from our long-time members I guess. Maybe that's too much to ask.
     
  26. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    To be fair..you havent actually explicitly said what you expect from us.....just saying.. more of what? :confused2:
     
  27. ckparrothead

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    Here are some things to look for tonight if you're particularly interested in to what extent Bill Lazor's offense will resemble Chip Kelly's.

    Play Calling - One of the most fundamental aspects of Kelly's system involves a simple look at the field math. Pay attention to how many defenders are in the box versus how many blockers. If there are the same number of defenders as blockers (which favors the offense because you're able to get a "hat on a hat"), Kelly's offense calls for a run play almost regardless of the down & distance. That's why you see Philadelphia running the football on 3rd & 2 (which is called a pass 69% of the time in the NFL). It's why you see Philadelphia running on 3rd & 3 (which is 82% passing in the NFL, but was only 53% passing in Philly). It's why you see Philly running on 3rd & 4 (87% passing for the NFL, but only 67% passing for Philly). In addition to the field math concerning players in the box, also do the field math out in coverage. Kelly's offense will throw the ball pretty consistently to the portion of the field where the math favors the offense. If you see three receivers to one side but you only see two defenders up close to the line to defend them, look for a wide receiver screen. They'll call that pretty much at any time when the math favors them.

    Run Alignments - The Chip Kelly offense is primarily a shotgun/pistol offense. The NFL has moved primarily to a shotgun-based pass offenses but they have yet to move toward being shotgun-based run offenses. Kelly's running game is shotgun-based. So look for a lot of what you would otherwise WANT to call "draw" plays (but really aren't) out of the gun. Kelly's running game basically consists of inside-zone, outside-zone and power (generally in that order although in Philly he might have moved power above outside-zone). There might be some other stuff mixed in but those three cover a very large portion of it. Back in college he ran inside-zone almost exclusively out of the same look. If the play was inside-zone to the right, then the tailback lined up to the left of the quarterback (who was in shotgun, of course) and slightly behind him. If it was inside-zone to the left, the tailback was lined up to the right of the quarterback and slightly behind him. He also ran power out of the same look, but the way it is executed it ends up being a nice counter to the inside-zone. So if they were lined up like they're running inside-zone to the right, (therefore the tailback is to the left of the quarterback), everyone on the OL would flow to the right as if it's inside-zone right, except the front side guard would sweep back to the left as a puller and and the tailback would ram it up right behind him. Outside-zone was usually marked by either the tailback lining up to the side of the quarterback (rather than to the side-and-behind) or with a player in sweeping motion at the snap. In the NFL there was more experimentation with running these run plays out of pistol (tailback directly behind the quarterback who is lined up in squirtgun) or even plays where the quarterback lined up under center. Part of the reason for this is the reduction in zone-reading at the NFL level, which means fewer options for victimizing a defense that is too committed toward stopping a run play in a certain way. In college the zone-read gave the Oregon offense basically three directions they could take the ball any given play based on what the defense did after the snap. Without as much zone-read in the NFL, that's not always the case...so there's perhaps a bit more need for disguise.

    Miscellaneous - There are some other miscellany that you might predict as more classical signs of Kelly's influence such as the zone-read, the "passing stretch play" (fast-forward to 1:37), a heavy increase in play-action passing, etc. One thing I will advise is that WHEN they run a zone-read play, pay attention to which player on the defense is being zone-read. To date, the NFL has almost exclusively zone-read the defensive ends. In fact I think most fans, even the ones familiar with the zone read, believe that's what it is...reading the backside defensive end. Chip Kelly was infamous at Oregon (and in Philadelphia) for zone-reading different players. Any player in the defensive front can be zone-read, even linebackers. Chip generally liked to zone-read the best player, to try and take him out of the play. Zone-reading a player generally means leaving him completely free in the blocking scheme and then having your point man read what that player is doing and then bringing the ball to the place that neutralizes the player. Kelly considers zone-reading a player to essentially be blocking him without actually putting a big ugly up on him. Particularly on outsize-zone plays you could see the 1-technique or 3-technique be the focus of the zone-read rather than the defensive end. Probably one last miscellaneous thing to look for would be seeing if Lamar Miller and Mike Wallace have a habit of running away from one another. They're Miami's two speediest players and I believe Kelly likes to stretch the defense by having two speedy players running opposite one another.

    Here are some quick-hit differentiating factors between the two offenses (Miami and Philadelphia), that may help you visibly identify traits that are inherent to Kelly's offense in Philadelphia as opposed to what had been done in Miami previously:

    01. Percentage of play-action passes (Miami 15%, Philly 33%)
    02. Presence of option run plays (designed runs per game: Tannehill 0.6, Vick/Foles 2.1)
    03. Percentage of times a back is kept in to block (Miami 33%, Philly 15%)
    04. Run tendency on 2nd down (Miami 33%, Philly 52%) and 3rd & 2 to 5 yards (Miami 7%, Philly 46%)
    05. Time to Attempt (Tannehill 2.44s, Foles 2.88s) and percent of dropbacks at 2.6+ seconds (Tannehill 40%, Foles 61%)
    06. Deep passing attempt percentage (Tannehill 11%, Foles 17%)
    07. Percentage of run plays when in Shotgun (Dolphins 17%, Eagles 41%)
    08. Offensive motion percentage (Tannehill 20%, Foles 32%)
    09. The passing stretch play (fast-forward to 1:37)
    10. Passing behind the line of scrimmage (Tannehill 11%, Foles 18%)
     
  28. djphinfan

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    I want to see some push on the oline...a defense that Smothers the offense on the first two series, and any 1st and 2nd year players flash their *** off.

    I expect will Davis to be player of game.
     
  29. MikeHoncho

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    I'm ready.

    Confirmed with my doctor yesterday: It's only pre-season so I don't need to refill my heart medication just yet.
     
  30. Den54

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    [video=youtube;IwljKo0yeoA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwljKo0yeoA[/video]
     
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  31. Rocky Raccoon

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    [video=youtube;H4nKJYV3UKs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4nKJYV3UKs[/video]
     
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  32. PhinGeneral

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    It might. The refs are being told to be liberal with the flags in pre-season, especially when it comes to illegal contact.
     
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  33. djphinfan

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    Sicks game day thread should be reserved for game 1 right?

    I want to see the beginning of a line start to move in harmony in this zone scheme, when it get right it's a beautiful synchronized thing to see.
     
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  34. steveincolorado

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    People will complain about the officials, but their orders come from the league. The officials are told how to call the games.
     
  35. steveincolorado

    steveincolorado Spook, Storme & Pebbles

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    Im glad to see some Dolphins football, even though the outcome doesn't really matter. Still a win feels better. Hope we score a TD so we can see our kicker try a 32/33 yard extra point...lol
    Im going to miss the game, going golfing after work, will catch it tomorrow on the replay.
     
  36. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    can we finally stop even mentioning this.....T H A N K Y O U

    and to all you ****ers stop TALKING about the I WORD...just stop...and all you perverts...no unzips
     
  37. bigbry

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    What is "what a mentor would say" Alex
     
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  38. Den54

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    Anyone think Soliai will be pumped?
    Soliai vs Satele. Samoan showdown.
     
  39. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    it was strange to see him in a different uni on the first hard knocks episode
     
  40. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    The Dallas / San Diego had a buncha defensive calls too...if the season goes like the pre-season has so far from the refs, look for MANY points to be scored around the league (and listen close for Goodell fapping).
     

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