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Dolphins Training Camp 2014

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by dolfan40, Jul 24, 2014.

  1. jdallen1222

    jdallen1222 Well-Known Member

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    Yea, but no more fan attendance. I think its by invite only to media personnel after today.
     
  2. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    please have lunch with Tannehill....please have lunch with Tannehill.....

     
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  3. Ophinerated

    Ophinerated Preposterous!

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    That's the way we did it as well.
     
  4. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    LMAO Booger Mcfarlene on sportscenter right now......wow.....
     
  5. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    Sturgis is back making kicks.....pressure on this kid
     
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  6. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    Hopefully Landry blocked for him this time :couch:

     
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  7. SICK

    SICK Lounge Moderator

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    Wallace healthy. good.

     
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  8. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Good stuff. You are right about the drill and Omar was wrong. The drill is either 2 men, a blocker and defender, or 3 men with a ball carrier added. I suppose you could also have a QB handing off the ball to the runner.

    Thanks for finding all those videos and consolidating them into one place. I guess the current team down there in Norman, OK would know the drill as well as anyone. :yes:
     
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  9. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    In fairness to Omar he did not say it was strictly an Oklahoma Drill. He said it was an Oklahoma-inspired contact drill and considering it was one on one and a corridor to get through it was similar.
     
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  10. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Hickey will survive at least this season, unless he goes off his rocker and tries to knock over a liquor store or something.
     
  11. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    I would rather they keep spending time dedicated to turnovers, specifically attacking the ball, creating more FF. We only ranked 19/32 in total turnovers. Most of that because of INT's. We don't strip the ball carriers enough. Most of our FF came off QB hits. I'm more of the Bill Belichick mindset. Turnovers are #1 priority. Red zone defense is #2 (Which we already excel at).
     
  12. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    No way I'd want Ellerbe at Mike again in the base. I'd rather see Misi remain there, Tripp or even Trusnik line up there. Misi would move to Sam, not Will, if he ever was moved from the Mike.
     
  13. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Even if Sturgis isn't able to kick due to his injuries, I'd sure hope there is someone better than Hrapmann to replace him during the regular season.
     
  14. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    If Brackett outplays Egnew all camp, I hope the latter's draft status doesn't get used as a reason to keep him over the former. Keep the best players, even if they are all UDFAs.
     
  15. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    lol

    Go on... Good to hear. Anyone know how many drives the 1st team had in week 2 of the PS last year?

    According the tweets, Moreno caught the ball out of the backfield. Same for Damien Williams. I hope Moreno gets some 1st team reps against Tampa.
     
  16. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    My list was how they were rated based on the regular season game results last year.
     
  17. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Who is the new chick on NFL AM? She is kind of cute and a bubbly little thing. The guys barely give her a chance to squeeze a word in though. They seemed much more courteous with Molly and Nicole.
     
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  18. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    I'd like to see Jordan made the starter at Sam. Line him up often standing up at the LOS just outside Wake. I'd play him in a straight up 6 technique, head to head with the inline Y if the opponent has one. No clean releases for the TE. If the TE flexes out, then have Jordan go with him.
     
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  19. invid

    invid Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Erin Coscarelli, she was a reporter in the bay area, I believe. She fine, but not as authoritative as Zaloumis was (something that AM is definitely missing right now).
     
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  20. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Folks may not think of Brackett as being as athletic as Egnew, but in some ways he tested out better. Specifically the 10 yd split, the cone, and the shuttle.
    Brackett's Pro Day:
    Dates: 03/16/11
    Height: 6056
    Weight: 248
    40 Yrd Dash: 4.61
    20 Yrd Dash: 2.71
    10 Yrd Dash: 1.59
    225 Lb. Bench Reps: 22
    Vertical Jump: 34
    Broad Jump: 09'10"
    20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.24
    3-Cone Drill: 6.74


    Egnew's Combine:
    Height: 6051
    Weight: 252
    40 Yrd Dash: 4.52
    20 Yrd Dash: 2.59
    10 Yrd Dash: 1.60
    225 Lb. Bench Reps: 21
    Vertical Jump: 36
    Broad Jump: 10'11"
    20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.32
    3-Cone Drill: 7.03
     
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  21. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Come on man, heal baby heal.
     
  22. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    That show is worse than a joke..it's embarrassing..that network is embarrassing to good football fans..

    Molly is drinkable bath water thru a straw, that's the highest honor.
     
  23. 77FinFan

    77FinFan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    So on paper they are a wash. Give the boy a chance.
     
  24. keithjackson

    keithjackson Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Lol I love the haterade over Landry's blocking on this site. Watching his film, I do think it is inconsistent. He's much more likely to turn a 10 yard gain into a 15 yard gain than a 2 yarder into a 5 yarder. But there is a reason every LSU fan I've talked to, and almost every draft site I've read applaud him for his blocking. Perhaps we hear "Hines ward" and then want to see "Hines ward" blocking, but I don't know what people are expecting from a WR. Come September, Landry will be the best blocking WR on the team. (Only Gibson could maybe challenge him, but if he plays all 16 games I'll give you a BJ.)

    Joking aside, I think he actually gets most off his credit for blocking from his prowess as a tackler, which aren't the same thing. He was awesome on special teams at LSU and that's how he introduced himself into the hearts of most of their fans. Heck, he is the highest rated tackler on Madden of all our WRs and TEs (and his blocking is near the top too, if you enjoy Madden ratings). Does physicality in tackling lend itself to physicality in blocking? There's a zen question.

    So I understand it's fun to be devils advocate on a message board, and yes he won't be the league's best, and perhaps you might even think his draft stock overrated, but dont insinuate he's a bad blocker.
     
  25. A13OVEAVERAGE

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    Saving for later, don't mind me.
     
  26. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I tell you exactly how it started, cause two of us started it, I've watched hundreds and hundreds of reps on Landry, including reps that were running plays, I stated that his blocking was a "weakness" of his, I acknowledged that while he is willing to cross the formation and lay the wood on someone, that on running downs he needed better effort...well hell, everyone and their cousin got all up in my ***...lol, then I started to see a couple more folks who I respect, and who I know watch as many reps as I do, see the same.

    I wasn't hating, every player has weaknesses, I like to point them out so I can properly put their game into context.
     
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  27. keithjackson

    keithjackson Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    And you and the other guy made me relook at his blocking during the hundreds of reps I rewatched. And yes, reading his predraft analysis you'd expect all world, but instead I saw a guy who was usually doing 'just enough'. However while perhaps it is his weakest facet, I guess I just don't see it as an inadequacy. After watching Wallace, Hartline, and Miller and the TEs "block" last year, I just can't fathom Landry being anything but a positive.

    I've learned not to try to change people's minds on here, esp on topics where the proof is in the future. But for discussions sake, of the WRs you predict to make the team, where would you rank Landry as a blocker?
     
  28. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    thats fair, I stated what I did because every post that loved the pick was talking about how incredible of a blocker he was in their excitement, and I just honestly didn't believe that was the case, adequate is not too far off..

    As a unit, they all kind of look the same, but I've seen Landry do some things that the others have not ( decleaters)..I'm sure he will improve In this dept, he seems to have special intangibles.
     
  29. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    THe WR blocking def left something to be desired in the first outing, imo. Looking for it to improve if we're to get the most out of this offense.
     
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  30. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    Definitely.

    Poor blocking from the skill guys almost blew that play up in the Atlanta game where Tanny dumped it off to Gibson on the sideline...the other receiver was pushed back all the way to where he caught the ball.
     
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  31. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    blocking and tackling, are two biggest weaknesses...hmmmm.no wonder the whole week was dedicated to fundamentals, Philbin needs to coach these boys up..
     
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  32. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    IF that is what we are expecting we are screwed...
     
  33. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    we do have these things called assistant coaches
     
  34. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    stop trying to fill up my half empty glass... I will not tolerate that!

    :-P
     
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  35. keithjackson

    keithjackson Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I have faith in Philbin's ability to successfully teach what he sets his mind on; I think his trouble comes from what he overlooks.

    Looking at last offseason, his main focus on offense was probably creating plays from the WR position, which produced a measly 3 TDs. And whatever he and Ireland did worked because WRs in 2013 scored 14 TDs (yards also rocketed upwards).

    On defense, his main focus was creating turnovers. I remember thinking at the time, "How do you teach creating turnovers?!?!" He worked on it, including having all the players slap a football on their way into meetings. Well, it worked. Our defense went from creating 16 turnovers to 24, which mainly reflects an uptick in INTs from 10 to 18. (The Dolphins were one of the few teams to have more INTs (18) than pass TDs (17) allowed.)

    Those are two huge measurable improvements. So if he's focusing on tackling, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. However, I will hide one hand behind my back with fingers crossed worrying about what he isn't working on.
     
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  36. scotty_irnbru

    scotty_irnbru Well-Known Member

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    This is a great post. Thank you. My positivity rollercoaster is now back on the fun side.
     
  37. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    CB upgrades more responsible for more INTs than slapping footballs, IMO.
     
  38. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Which upgrade are you talking about?
     
  39. Lloyd Heilbrunn

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    Grimes mostly but Patterson early season before injuries too.
     
  40. keithjackson

    keithjackson Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Patterson was on the roster in 2012, but it's a valid point. New players counted for 7 INTs (grimes 4, Thomas 1, ellerbe 2) in 2013, but outgoing players accounting for 3 the year before (smith 2, Marshall 1), so that's only a +4 difference, with the new linebacker philosophy accounting for two of them.

    Returning players improved their INT totals from 7 to 11. Also interesting, in 2012 CBs only accounted for 3 INTs, whereas in 2013 they nabbed 11 INTs (not even including Jimmy Wilson's two that may have been from the nickel). (However, if you ignore Patterson, I guess it's not that impressive.)

    It kind of crazy that in 2012 WRs and CBs only accounted for 3 TDs/INTs each, and then in 2013 both improved those into double digits. Does coaching have something to do with that?
     

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