ESPN John Clayton says Dolphins favorite to land Suh

Looks like y'all are just on time to catch the 5 o'clock train to #LeverageVille

 

Maybe I should rephrase my post.

Raise your hand if you think this will blow up in our collective faces one way or another, as usual...

*Raises hand*

 

Seriously, just stop.

We don't get used a lot. The rest of your post is a vain attempt to change your original point because it was proven wrong.

 

Really not much more than it would be to sign odrick and keep starks, now instead of having two guys that have decent pass rushes and decent run stopping we get an amazing rushing and great run stopper for maybe 2 mil a season more than we'd pay odrick and starks.

 

Did I say we ALWAYS get used? No. Do we get used a lot in FA? Yes.

 

So yeah.....

 

Try another 6 million a year. Not 2 mill.

 

Semantics

 

lol, ok.

 

As long as we build in an escape clause in the 3rd or 4th year, I'm fine with it. Its all about the guaranteed money. The rest is just contract fluff. I doubt he ever sees the last year of his contract no mater who signs him.

 

I didn't know Suh played QB...

 

Not sure how I fell about this.On one hand he is unlike wallace a top 3 player at his postion if not the best.We would have a def line that would rival the bills.Imagine wake and vernon off the edge with suh collapsing the middle.Nowhere to go tom but on your ***!
The other hand I don't want to lose wallace because now our young QB has no weapons and we will have to count on rookies to step right in or some middle of the road free agent.Not to mention 100 mil dollar contract he is going to command.Not to mention we have no corners and its a week draft for them.

 

Is that for real? John Clayton doesn't have arms on TV?

 

It does seem that Suh is all about getting paid. Objectively, why would you come to a team that has a coach/GM on a one-year deal? Would not stability and a chance for the playoffs most years be important? Why not look for a team that you could be the final piece for a Super Bowl push?

Suh has worked his butt off, so he can get this HUGE contract.....


then he can relax....

 

Can't get used if your not going up to bat. I like going to bat better than sitting on the bench watching, once in a while you get a hit that way.

 

Best NFL videogame ever made right there hahaha

 

If he was interested in stability and playoffs, hed stay with The lions. The teams that are seriously going to make a run at him are the jags, raiders, redskins, and dolphins.

Some of you need to keep in mind how contracts work. we can make his cap hit low this year and bigger others, like Wallace. Just because we don't have a huge amount of cap space this year doesn't mean we don't in upcoming years

 

The thought of Suh pushing linemen into Tom Brady's face makes me a little wet (as Hank Moody would say).

 

Call it what ever you want, I'm sure there's a bunch of bandwagon Dolphins fans from 1985 over here too. Favre and Marino are the reasons why I started to watch football.

 

Maturity is very scarce these days. Almost as hard to find as common ****ing sense.

 

I agree with this line of thinking. And, it's not like there's much risk in what we're getting. He's not injury-prone the way Branden Albert is. He's not limited in his skill set the way Mike Wallace is. Albert's damn good, and Mike Wallace was the best receiving option on the roster last year, and is now given the nature of things at present. Ndamukong Suh has only missed 2 games, and not because of injury (suspension). He's been an All-Pro 4 of his 5 seasons. He's elite. Miami only has one other elite player on the the roster right now (Wake). You have to pay top dollar to acquire a talent such as this, but Suh doesn't come with the risks that players Miami's ALREADY paid top dollar for have come with.

Yes, Suh is only one player, but IMO, I think his impact makes things a lot easier for the defensive line as a whole. He's a brilliant run defender; virtually everyone in Miami's front seven, especially the interior guys, got their @$$ handed to them down the stretch last year against the run. He creates pressure on his own in the passing game (see the playoff game against Dallas) and will help free up Wake, Vernon, Mitchell, etc. on the front line. A more potent pass-rush alleviates you from having to sign Darrelle Revis, or someone of that nature, to play opposite Grimes; you can probably suffice with a Patrick Robinson, Chris Culliver, Walter Thurmond III, Jamar Taylor, etc. and still be alright; just look at the Lions corners last year.

So while Suh is only one player, and he will be expen$ive, I think it's worth it both in the short-term and long-term as the salary cap is fungible enough for you to maneuver money around what would be his massive, and presumably, Ryan Tannehill's very large contracts. Does it mean you may not be able to re-sign someone like an Olivier Vernon or Lamar Miller down the line? Yeah, maybe. But that's a risk I think Miami should be willing to take.

And as Rocky has stated, if you don't sign him, then you still have money left over to re-sign Jared Odrick and still play around in the free agency pool quite a bit. Dennis Hickey's best contribution last year may very well have been identifying UDFAs. Miami had 5 of them make the 53 man roster week 1 - Darkwa, Williams, Hoskins, Johnson and McCain - so if he's able to hit another Draft and UDFA class like he did last year (remains to be seen, but I think it's damn well within the realm of possibility) I wouldn't feel so about about not signing as many players in free agency because the quality of Suh is what it is - elite.

 

Palm Beach Post quoting former Phins Guard Keith Sims

"To anyone worried that if the Dolphins sign Ndamukong Suh, they wouldn’t have any money left under the salary cap to sign other good players, Keith Sims offers a word to the contrary.Says Sims, a former Dolphins Pro Bowl guard: “If you get a guy like Ndamukong Suh, it would attract other free agents to be part of the mix, something the Patriots have mastered for years, of putting together a team that is typically in contention so players would take less money to come and be part of that championship-caliber team.”
Suh

There’s one other team Sims could point to for proof: the Heat. Remember when players were lining up to play alongside LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh?
Maybe Suh helped Detroit earn a discount with talent, but combine South Florida, no state income tax and a potentially dominating defensive line and the Dolphins would appear enticing.
Now that the Lions declined to use the franchise tag on Suh, their All-Pro defensive tackle, word is he’ll command at least $100 million on the market. Insiders have Miami on a short list of logical landing spots."

 

The more I see people jumping on the "Suh to Miami" bandwagon the more worried I feel about it. It just sounds too good to be true

 

From Dave Hyde today, FWIW. See the first sentence.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/...-suh-visits-south-florida-20150304-story.html

 

Anyone worried about Philbin and Suh potentially having personality clashes?

 

I guess all you can ask is that we make a legitimate run at him. Almost surreal

 

Yeah. I'm impressed they're really interested and not just settling for the status quo of retaining Jared Odrick.

 

Ireland would've resigned him for somewhere around 6 years 85 million.

 

Obviously it is an entirely different line of thinking than what we have had here in awhile. Do we sign middle tier to above average guys across the board or go for a dominant guy who might make the players around him better

 

I'm at the point now, based on what we've heard, that I'm trying not to set myself up for disappointment. It's going to be a long couple of days until March 10th and I'd at least like have the Dolphins to look forward to as I don't think my Dayton Flyers have another run as good as last year's up their sleeves and the Reds, well...just "ugh".

 

Where d'you hear this? You think after signing Suh we'd go all out on defense? I'd rather we continue piling up potential difference makers at their respective positions, not that Kendricks wouldn't be one, but I don't think he has top 10 talent in this draft... IMO, we should trade up for Cooper or White to make our offense more dynamic.

 

Well, if you go that route, I'm a Gooner.

 

Clayton also said we were the favorite to sign Peyton.

I'm tempering my expectations because, well, that's what you do when you're a fan of this franchise.

 

Suh is consistently near the top of the league among DTs with QB hits (and batted balls and sacks and success rate and tackles for loss). Tom Brady would take around 80 drop backs a year against him.

 

very well said no wonder you are my favorite poster here.

 

I was told by two posters that we had no chance of signing Suh (according to his "sources")..... I guess my sources were the right ones..