Moon-walker claims alien contact cover-up

Fascinating.

 

The Truth really is out there! Great stuff!!

 

If they do exist its obvious they are benevolent or have a hands off policy .

I wonder if their benevolence would extend to giving us the technology for a clean and viable energy source.Obviously they have that small problem licked and that they dominate time or wormhole travelling....another handy technological advance

They may not want such a backwards civilization to have the later one.

 

Passive observation and letting us develop at our own pace.

Then again, anyone here played Starcraft or gotten into that storyline?

 

Then they shouldn't give it to Americans, Canadians could handle it though.

 

Are they Republicans or Democrats?

 

I believe it. The question is when will they let it out?

 

Hockey, the civilized sport

 

I'm going to play both sides.

Is this a national secret? Surely "ET's" visited other places around earth than ourselves. My question is how is this secret so well kept and why do people brush it off so easily?

 

Well for one I imagine if people started believing a lot of religions would then become confusing to many, as well as these are beings that could destroy us at anytime they wanted that scares people. I just don't get why people think we are so superior that there could be no race out there far more advanced than us. Truth is we are probably nothing more than ants to many alien beings out there.

I agree with original article if they wanted to destroy us by now they would have, I imagine they watch us as basically we watch lab experiments. I'm sure its fascinating to watch a developing world, see what they do. I mean they definitely would of attacked before we started depeleting out resources because show as far as back as the Egyptians with ufo's. Imagine what they seen us go through, war after war after war.

Obviously they can't trust us with any technology because look what we did when we figured out atom splitting. We made a atom bomb. Any technology if we where giving could easily be used as bad. (also got a lot of this from stargate lol)

 

You sort of make them sound as if they are God in how they watch over us and I find that interesting (maybe aliens created human life as an experiment?). It seems to me if there are aliens that they wouldn't be that interested in us as there are probably other life inhabited planets that are ahead of us if we want to go out onto that limb. So I would say what makes us feel so special as too think the aliens care about us that much.

I agree however if the proof of aliens ever did become common knowledge that the world would go into turmoil (as you said religiously and out of fear).
Plus maybe if aliens do exist they are just patiently waiting until we do become a threat and then become hostile so this whole idea definitely has some teeth to it.

 

I'm didn't mean to come off as they where "god" but what I am saying it has to be interesting to be able to watch a race go from primitive of sticks and stones to what we are today. As for them creating us .. I don't know I have contemplated that thought before im not much of a history buff as far as the cavemen go but from what I kind of know (if I am wrong correct me) we seemed to kinda of come out of nowhere. From barbaric neanderthals to intelligent beings. I just think there was a pretty big step. Our structure form was much different than neanderthals. Now I may be missing something there sure. I just know that we kind of seemed to pop up out of nowhere. Now its not a theory I really believe in but it is a theory.

Also accounts of ufo's increased since the first use of the atom bomb. It had to be intriguing to them to see what we have accomplished. It also in my mind showed them that with increased technology for us just comes with the risk that someone would use it to do harm instead of good.

 

I was being satirical about them creating us but honestly you never truly know do you. Also I do find it interesting the idea of aliens looking over us sort of Gods of such that just fascinates me.

Also I believe that as far as neanderthals and current humans lived together for a short time with us basically winning out due to better intelligence and us killing them off or at least that's what I think as I am no ancient man expert.

Its intriguing at the very least that we are being watched. Personally I am indifferent to aliens existing because I neither believe in them or do believe in them but any new discovery is right up my alley. Plus how cool would it be if aliens did exist and wanted to co-exist with us.

 

That made alot of sense.

 

For one I don't think they will co-exist for one there would be mass groups wanting them dead. I mean already look half this planet can't accept others and we are all human beings. Imagine a alien being being here there would be hate, and danger to them and I am sure they have observed and noticed that.

As far as believing in them im not 100% sure there is other life visiting us but I am very fascinated by the idea that they could be and could have been for thousands of years now.

 

Agreed.

Plus I agree that although the aliens would possibly co-exist with us that we couldn't do the same. If we can't along with each other getting along with them would be impossible as you say but maybe if they scared us straight it wouldn't be a problem but that wouldn't be co-existing now would it.

 

Dr Edgar Mitchell is a very well respected man and he's been hinting at this for years. He also isn't the first astronaut to make this claim of a coverup.

 

welcome to the chat . Yea you are right about that I have read several articles on the astronauts all having claims that there is something out there. It's very interesting.

 

Yeah, 2 astronauts have now come out and said that there is a coverup and a few others have hinted at it and most of them report having seen them while in space. Our astronauts are well trained to be able to identify their surroundings in space, if they see something that is so out of the ordinary and is moving unlike a piece of tumbling space debris (intelligently controlled) then I have to trust their judgment.

 

I agree, they definitely know what they are looking at up there. Which I think astronauts make probably one of the most if not the most credible ones to listen to. I mean they are not wack jobs very smart, brilliant people for most part. No real reason to question them just because they speak of a possibility of alien life forms.

 

I KNOW they exist.. Or at least someone out there has a massive spaceship because I along with my mother and cousin witnessed a giant, luminating, floating craft hover over our neighborhood on new years eve of 1990 in Sao Paulo, Brazil.

Of course, when ever I mention this story, people tend to marginalize it, but what we saw was very real.. It was about 50 yards wide, with several blinking lights.. We were outside on the balcony celebrating shortly after midnight when this massive craft rather suddenly came into view a couple blocks from our house.. It hovered for roughly 3 minutes, floating off for a few seconds, then just zoomed off real quick in a matter of seconds..

My father had gone downstairs to grab a bottle of champagne so he missed the thing.. but he passed it off like saying we probably saw a hot air balloon.. But that was no balloon.. It gathered speed far to quickly.. It went from floating to jetting off in a matter of seconds..

I still remember it so vividly.. It was massive. Others in the neighborhood reported seeing the same thing the next day..

 

The thing is, any alien species with such advanced technology would undoubtedly have evolved similarly to humans.. They must have been warlike beings..

Technology does not advance WITHOUT war.. All the technological innovations we enjoy today are a direct result of WAR. War is the ultimate form of competition and it fuels research and development...

I highly doubt a race of care bears would develop technology so advanced that they could traverse space and time.. Of course, this is not to say they couldn't have outgrown the warlike nature of the primitive ancestors, but any being with spacecrafts must have had a long history of war as well..

 

Great account there. Do you possibly buy into the ideas that what you saw could be some sort of secret government aircraft (from Brazil or where ever) that people don't have common knowledge about?

 

LOL, I highly doubt Brazil could, or would, create such a craft.. For one, they really have no reason to pour money into such a program seeing as how they have no enemies, and even though they require all males to give a year of army services, they really don't have much of a military presence.. As such, they would really have no reason to develop top-secret advanced flight crafts..

However, ya, I suppose the thing I saw could have been a man-made craft of some sort.. but by who, and why it was floating over a neighborhood in Sao Paulo on New Years eve is beyond me.. Whatever it was, it is not something I ever saw before, or since.. It truly looked like it came right out of a science fiction movie..

 

I understand war fuels the fight for better technology and I agree but we develop at our right pace. By introducing technology far more advanced in the wrong hands would do major harm. Where as atleast with our way we develop at our right pace without intervention. Now I do think if crashed ufo have been capture that we are surely reverse engineering it. So we are already being influenced but we still have to learn from it. Not told this is how it works, and then expect nothing to come bad of it.

 

That's what I mean the aircraft didn't have to be from Brazil but from anywhere like US for that matter (although I would have no clue why they would be in Brazil). I'm not saying that was the case as I have had my own not UFO experiences but shall we say unexplained experiences, so I do believe in the strange.

 

The first guy was a death bed confession wasn't it?

I'm not sure if it was an astronaut or just an Air Force pilot that was VERY well respected who felt he had to get that off his chest before he passed on.

 

?? Link please?

 

I think the man you're referring to is Jesse Marcel, and yes he was a military officer. No, there is another named Ken Johnston who was with NASA for over 17 years, was also a lunar module test pilot, Astronaut Consultant Pilot and held a few other positions within NASA. At the end of his NASA career he was the Manager of the Data and Photo Control department and was given several prints of the lunar missions that he was ordered to destroy (NASA has a history of destroying and "losing" pictures. John McCain had to send a letter to Mike Malin to get over 10,000 pics released. How do you lose 10,000 pictures and negatives?). Anyway, he destroyed all but one set which he stored at his alma mater and has come out recently to tell his story and share the pics which were far different and better quality than the ones NASA released to the public (His set didn't have large areas blacked out ).

 

LINK?!?!?

Posting interesting stuff but I want to see sources!!!

 

Watching the new XF movie...they couldve used this guy to write the script and it couldve turned out alot better.

 

Learn to use the search function on your computer.

I had the McCain link bookmarked about a year ago on another account, I'll see if I can find it. He sent a letter to Mike Malin to remind him that the pictures were property of the American people and that his group may lose funding if found to be withholding information (I think, doing this from memory). Soon after thousands of "lost" pics were found dumped onto the web.

For some of the information you'll have to buy the book.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1932595260/ref=cm_rdp_product_img

And I thought that Jesse Marcell was relatively well known?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXTXbi_VhJU&feature=related

Pretty interesting stuff right there.

 

Wow, very interesting thread here. That first hand encounter sounds pretty crazy. I duno what I would do if that was me staring at a huge hovering craft. I'd probly just stare at it and hope I didnt have to run.

I really wouldn't be suprised if there are other life-forms out there. On the other hand, I wouldn't be suprised if I never find out there are in my lifetime. Big revelation there right? I would think that it would take some kind of huge event (a spaceship crashing in a very public place with thousands of witnesses and media present) for the government to ever let us know what they do. It would have to be something undeniable for this issue to becoming public knowledge imo.

 

Some governments have already come out and admitted it as Dr Mitchell pointed out.

 

Do you know which governments?

 

You did listen to this interview before you posted it, right?

Belgium
France
Brazil
Mexico
Britain released some files as well

And the Vatican softened their stance on life elsewhere by saying that life might exist elsewhere and that it doesn't contradict our faith.
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/62208

 

It was late last night

Files as in UFO sightings?

also lol at the Vatican.

 

Yes, files as in UFO sightings and investigations.

I think it was the right thing for them to do, it's a huge unprecedented step for them and it makes sense. If God is able to create life here, why can't he create life elsewhere?