Questions still remain at QB

You asked me to answer those questions for myself. I did.
You assumed I never answered those questions to you, the board or myself before. You're wrong.
You did in fact, just get done telling me the oline affecting Tannehill's play has no place in this thread. So, I pointed out you probably shouldn't a couple of posts later ask me about the oline in the same Tannehill thread.

So, that "someone" should be yourself.

 

And keep playing verbal lingo and berating everyone.

I've known you for years and expect a lot better from you. You are out of line with your tone and responses. I'm the last thing from a hater, I love this team and I'm tired of mediocrity. The only person hating here is you, it's almost comical how offended you are by every post and how downright rude you have been during this debate. I'm actually amused.

I'm done engaging you on this matter because it's all irrelevant. The sad thing is you don't realize that people want you to be right... But are also pointing out their level of reality. We are all right and we are all wrong. Time will tell (or may not tell) who is more right. I defended Henne for a long time before reality set in. I've defended Tannehill for 3 years and the outcomes are same year after year. Eventually you have to look to upgrade parts of the team that are not performing in the clutch and Tannehill is the key cog on this team, like it or not.

Of course it's not all on him. Our defense is atrocious, our O-line has been atrocious at times, our coaching has been atrocious, our owner has been atrocious and this franchise has been atrocious.

I grew up watching great football players elevate their teams. I watch great football players elevate their teams today. I watch mediocre QB's elevate their games and make big plays. I want a QB that wills victories. I want a QB that can make third down throws, that can avoid pressure and that has a winning gene. Would our team record be the same? Nobody knows. But it can't be much worse... The Jets have a better record than us with Ryan Fitzpatrick, a team that finished 4-12 last year. Tyrod ****ing Taylor beat us twice, evaded pressure and made some incredible throws in two blowouts. Is it all on Tannehill? Hell no. Is it a combination of Tannehill and the OL? Yes. Could Tannehill do a lot more. Abso****inglutely. I want him to prove me wrong. Nothing would make me happier.

 

I'm in no corner.

I've stated my stance numerous times. You, Fin-O, finster, rock sexton, and the rest of you Skip Bayless wannabes have done nothing to prove me wrong on my stance. Instead, you make the argument circular, by the following method:

1. Make a bogus claim about Tannehill
2. Back it up with a bogus statement about the other side's stance.
3. Insults.
4. Ask the other side for their stance again.
5. Misstate their stance again.
6. Insults again.
7. Claim the other side is in the corner or has lost, etc.
8. Repeat 1-7.

 

Yeah, I'm the clown.

lol.

Keep spinning.

 

This is an important question..

I think Tannehill can benefit from better coaching to improve pocket presence in one key situation: when to run. Assuming coaches give him the freedom to run, one should be able to teach him (through game tape) situations under which the better decision was to run. And I'm saying this as a separate issue from rolling out the QB more by design (which isn't really "teaching" better pocket presence).

But I think much of his inability to sense pressure well (especially in his peripheral vision) can't be taught. He just seems like he can't process too many things at once (which is why he locks onto receivers sometimes). That seems like an ability that, if he ultimately gets better at it, will only come from experience and not from better coaching. Either the game slows down so much for him in the future that he can afford to focus on the pocket more, or it doesn't. Right now.. it looks like he's reached a ceiling decision-making wise. At least that's what it looks like to me.

 

Nevermind.
put me on ignore.

 

LOL, scapegoat logic, your basically asking "where are the scapegoats? this is invalid until you use a scapegoat", wowzaroony, but it shows where your train of thought is, it's just grabbing scapegoats, the problem is, this is all the same team, and same coaches that are in these games, the one player who seems to crumble in those situations is Tanne.

We should get a Sasquatch as the HC.

 

You just need a

 

Is it funny because he's taken your playbook and lies about my stance then wants me to defend it and when I don't I'm the one being disrespectful?

 

No, I need you to put me on ignore that way you want have to lie about my stance anymore.

 

Lied about your stance? Do you really think I sit around and read your posts 10x times to examine every word repeatedly so I can understand the mental masturbation you've mastered?

Good for you. I think you'd be better suited to take those skills to law school where I'm sure you'd excel.

And if you're so offended by my egregious efforts to make you seem like a liar, you should be the one putting me on ignore.

 

This is dumb.

I want to diagnose a problem. You are saying the TV doesn't work, so throw it out and you never checked to see if it was plugged in.

 

Its not a conspiracy, its just you guys think its funny to **** with people.

Wait a minute, your post has nothing to do with Tannehill and this thread is about Tannehill and I was told by you if we aren't talking about Tannehill it should be its own thread.

 

Tannehill may be the key cog, but with the oline being as bad as it is, it severely impacts Tannehill.

Our argument has basically been what you're saying, to replace the parts that are worst, first. I don't believe Tannehill is a bigger problem than the oline.

 

Your not diagnosing any problem, your just making excuses, grasping at any straws, saying things like "if we get a good Oline then I think Tanne can be a top 10 QB", but top 10 QBs are top 10 QBs, they aren't a product of their team mates, they are top 10 because that's who they are.

The team has multiple issues, and one of them is the QB, you just won't admit it until Tanne is holding a clipboard somewhere else.

 

You don't have an impact on my stance. You have an impact on my patience by lying about my stance.

I have answered them, repeatedly. I don't need to constantly jump through hoops for you or anybody.

 

I see, problems are excuses if they point away from what you think the problem is. Got it. Thanks for the clarification.

 

So after QB is #11, they start being a product of their team... Got it.

 

Don't forget, elite QBs also have that magic sack, from which they pluck out plays, and game winning drives at will, without the necessity of teammates making plays.

 

The real question is, how, after knowing the oline & the OC suck, the run game is abandoned too early and not being able to audible, can anyone properly assess his 4th quarter play...or his first, second or third for that matter?

These problems are incredibly obvious. These are problems that you swear you recognize.

Yet, you can still say Tannehill is part of the problem...even though you can't name a good QB that is shackled by those specific set of handicaps.

 

No one but no one is saying Tannehill isn't having a bad season. No one.
The BACKGROUND COLOR OF THIS POST IS WHITE. (<----That's the same thing you just did, which is emphatically state the obvious in all caps)

I'm not asking for mercy on Tannehill. I'm asking for common sense on this forum.

If he's the problem then he needs to go. But I'm not gonna call for the head of the best QB we've had since Marino, just because I wanna be an emotional child who just gets so gosh darned upset, that I blame the first guy I see. Because I'm not part of your crew Skip II.

The oline objectively sucks.
The OC subjectively sucks.
The running game is objectively abandoned too early.
Tannehill is objectively not allowed to audible. (And stop trying to pretend he can, when you've given me **** that you PROVED he wasn't allowed to and you think that's a MAJOR hinderance.)
Tannehill is subjectively average right now.

As far as to why our offense sucks and why Tannehill is having a poor season, those are the answers. But one of them is certainly at the bottom of the priority list.

 

Actually, he's not having a "bad season," as illustrated by other posters on here. Now, he's not having a great season, and he's not playing like we maybe expected him to after last season.

But it would help if he had some sort of oline and an OC who would actually run the ball.

 

Hes having basically the same season as last season except for being better on deep balls with a worse performing offense. What was your point again that wasn't an opinion?

 

There you go again, pretending I said he's played better than average this year. Its like talking to a wall...that has a learning disability.

Tell me, Genius, why would I say the oline, OC, lack of audibles and abandoned running game hurt Tannehill's game if he was playing above average? Logic problem, not your strong suit.

 

Use logic.

If I think he's being held back by the oline, OC, etc., then what do you think that means about his game right now...that its above average???

Is this really THAT hard for you?

 

He never said that and you're a drama queen. Weren't you banned for a while or did you have to take time off to let your blood pressure lower?


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WTF are you talking about?

Read his post again, that is EXACTLY what he did.

 

Take a chill pill. I haven't seen you around the forums for a while and you spit out these dramatic phrases demanding attention. Just talk football.


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