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  1. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    Although a few fans have been quick to reply to that Tweet:



     
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  2. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    Mike Wallace is back to an offense that just takes shots down deep. Hope that Parker can play


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  3. Galant

    Galant Love - Unity - Sacrifice - Eternity

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    Does Wallace still have his speed? If so, I suspect Maxwell might be raking in the interference penalties. Could be an issue.
     
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  4. dirtylandry

    dirtylandry Well-Known Member

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    Those Three WR's :Perriman, Smith and Wallace are scary
     
  5. Colmax

    Colmax Well-Known Member

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    Wallace....you're an idiot. Not even the same regime.
     
  6. Colmax

    Colmax Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, Wallace is still fast unfortunately
     
  7. SICK

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    He put more effort into that tweet than 90% of his catch attempts with the Miami Dolphins
     
  8. Ronnie Bass

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    With the hot air he is spewing up in Baltimore the game temps should be in the 70s this Sunday
     
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  9. Finster

    Finster Finsterious Finologist

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    As much as Flacco is struggling this year, 80 rating, 11TDs, 10INTs, Wallace is having a good year, pressure will be key in this game because I'm not sure we have anyone who can run with Wallace.
     
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  10. GreysonWinfield

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    Brandon Marshall says hello.
     
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  11. MikeHoncho

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    Like Finster said, get to Flacco and we should have no problem with containing the deep throws to Wallace. Crossers, or drag routes underneath could be problematic however.
     
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  12. GARDENHEAD

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    Manufactured motivation. We paid him $27 million for his two seasons here. He should send us a thank you card.
     
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  13. Big Phin

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    Maybe he can pay tribute to his time here and drop another pass...
     
  14. Fame

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    Mike Wallace doesn't care about anything other than Mike Wallace. These Dolphins only care about winning.

    I'll take that.
     
  15. Pauly

    Pauly Season Ticket Holder

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    Ever stop to think that Wallace may be the cause of Flacco's struggles even is he personally puts up good numbers?

    With Wallace one WR is a one trick pony, so all of your short routes, crossing routes et al have to be covered by the other WRs and the opposing D knows this too. So while Wallace sometimes gets open and sometimes makes big plays for most of the time your other WRs are being blanketed. It also restricts the routes you can run with them because generally you can't have all your WRs running Post and Corner routes on the same play.
     
  16. Rock Sexton

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    Yeah, no .... to all of it.

    He showed he wasn't a one trick pony when he was putting up a double digit TD season for us and we had ZERO vertical game. Don't let me get in the way of more ex-Dolphin hate mongering and re-imagining of his days here though. :tongue2:
     
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  17. Finster

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    I totally agree with Rock here Pauly, Wallace feasted on short routes here to the tune of 15 TDs in 2 years, with not much else at WR, so he was drawing all the doubles, and he still produced at a high level.

    Also, to infer that having a speed WR is bad, is bucking what is considered to be the proto type WR line up, possession, slot and speed, do you think Stills is hurting our O?

    A good speed WR opens thing up underneath, not the other way around as you suggest, and it doesn't restrict any routes of other WRs, they all run the routes they are supposed to run.
     
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  18. Pauly

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    His first year with us he wasn't so great.

    The second year when we used him in the short game he was great. I thought getting rid of him was a mistake. But in Minnesota and Baltimore he has been used almost purely as a deep threat.
     
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  19. dWreck

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    Not even slightly worried about Wallace. I was more worried about Kap.
     
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  20. Pauly

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    There's nothing wrong with having a speed receiver. There's a problem with using a receiver in only one way. If you have a speed receiver who can't take it over the middle (Ted Ginn anyone?) then you are telling the opposing D how to adjust their coverage every time they walk onto the field.

    Now, if Baltimore were using Wallace similar to the way we used him in his second year here then I wouldn't have said what I did. However, the way they are using him, which is the way Wallace prefers to play, makes it easier for opposing Ds to shut down Baltimore's other receivers.
     
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  21. Finster

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    Well sorry, but this is all patently false, there are WRs in the HoF who were strictly deep threats, you think the Steelers aren't missing Bryant because he's a deep threat? Think again.

    Deep threats OPEN up the underneath, that is their primary function, so stop pretending that having a deep threat hurts the underneath routes, or that it lets the defense know what other Wrs are going to run, because it doesn't.

    You are painting a false picture of deep threats and of Wallace and obviously are not paying attention to the Ravens, if only Wallace would do a middle slant, right? On this play, vs another of his former teams, he takes a 9yd middle slant 95yds for a TD.

     
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  22. Colmax

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    I think some have misconceptions about Wallace. He is a guy who can run short-to-intermediate routes and rack up the YAC in the right coverage. He's no Darren Sproles in space, but I think he gets away with some of these shorter to intermediates because you have to respect the speed. It's when they clip off a few of these and he hits you with the double move that can kill you.

    His main issue (and he may have only gotten slightly better at this) might be his suspect route running. He can almost always beat a guy to a spot, but getting to that spot is where he is lacking.

    I think you'd want to play him physical off the line, but if he gets behind you, he's good as gone.

    One thing Miami has going for them is the pass rush. I think they're close to tops in QB pressures. That can kill any of those those potential shots they might want to take. Not sure about their O-line, but our D-line needs big pressure all day.
     
  23. P h i N s A N i T y

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    Some fans prefer to defend the losers that failed their team..... and are quick to dismiss guys that do a lot to help the team win.

    There was nothing impressive about what wallace did in miami. Take the 10td argument and shove it. Unless your willing to consider that he was vastly over targeted in a pass happy offense all while eventually being overshadowed by a rookie.

    The Ravens just may sign K.Stills to replace Wallace as well.... If they want to get better.
     
  24. Brasfin

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    Aside from that, he has suspect hands, does a mediocre job of tracking the ball in the air, and also does not really attack and high point the ball when needed. Basically he's the anti-Parker with speed.

    He is fast, I'll give him that.
     
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  25. fins4o8

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    He doesn't track the ball well in the air. He does on short and intermediate routes, but those plays where the ball is way up there he doesn't put his body in the right place to get the pass.
    What's frustrating about Wallace is how much of a value player he is for the Ravens, vs how overpaid he was for us. Having him be so overpaid is what made is lack of greatness so frustrating. We were paying Brandon Marshall (in his prime) money to Mike Wallace, a 1-trick pony (at the time). The other irony and frustating thing about the Wallace situation is that he had been improving and becoming a much more well-rounded receiver. He started making some great catches, if you remember. Still, Tannehill and Stills connected more in one season than RT ever did with Wallace.
     
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  27. Finster

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    Not sure what you mean with Stills, he is a lesser Wallace, he has 53 catches so far with the Dolphins, that is last year and this year combined, Wallace had 140 in 2 years here, and according to sportingcharts, Wallace had 17 big plays while Stills has 11, Wallace 15TDs and Stills 8.

    Wallace>Stills.
     
  28. Finster

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    Question though, if Stills is as good as you say, why does he only have 26 catches?

    Parker, who has been slowed by nagging injuries, and seemed to be dogging it all season until the 4th quarter of the Rams game has 41 catches, 3 weeks ago people were calling him a bust.

    I think you're giving Stills way more credit than he deserves.
     
  29. Brasfin

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    Honestly, IMO, it's way more about what the output of the whole offense is, not what one player can do. Wallace didn't mesh with Tannehill and was a cancer, it doesn't matter what he did stats-wise in the past... truth is he was a part of a failing offense and we are much better without him right now. Personally, I'm glad he's gone.
     
  30. number21

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    There's still fans defending Wallace? Smh what kind of hold does Wallace have on you guys?
     
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  31. Fin D

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    My only guess is that they looked into his eyes, found them dreamy and have been smitten ever since.....
     
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  32. Finster

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    If RT didn't mesh with Wallace, then we should be looking to fill our WR corps with guys RT doesn't mesh with, and that will put him in the probowl.

    RT had his best season as a pro with Wallace as the #1 WR, RT has like a 115 rating throwing to the guy he supposedly didn't mesh with, do you realize that Landry in his 3rd year here with all his catches still does not have as many TDs as a Dolphin as Wallace does?

    Do you really think that Gase wouldn't have Wallace scaring the entire NFL right now?

    Mike Wallace was traded for talking back to Philbin, plain and simple, it was a stupid, self serving trade that made this team weaker.
     
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  33. Brasfin

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    Tannehill is having the best season of his career right now, without Wallace. And no, I do not believe it would be better if he were on the team. Maybe Wallace's individual stats would be better. Maybe Tannehill's stats throwing to him would be beter than throwing to other WR's, but the offense would not be better, IMO.

    Wallace was not good for Tannehill, he wasn't good for the offense and he wasn't good for the team. Wallace only cared for himself.
     
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  34. Tin Indian

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    I am far happier with Parker Stills Landry and Carroo. These guys are young and have complimentary talents. We are seemingly set at WR for the foreseeable future, assuming of course, they can resign all these guys.
     
  35. invid

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    I read an article, either Barry Jackson's or something like football rumors or whatever, that the Phins were going to try to keep Stills here save an outrageous bidding war. Same goes for Kiko Alonso.
     
  36. Phins_Fan_87

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    wallace was garbage, probably would have been different playing under gase
     
  37. dWreck

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    I wonder how Wallace feels about Tannehill leading the league in deep balls for a good portion of the season
     
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  38. Mcduffie81

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    Seems so fitting that you would romanticize a WR like Wallace with that bloated contract and in the same day call Suh overrated. While the price tag is very different Suh dominates moments throughout the game while Wallace as Tannehills #1 target couldn't break 1k yards in 2 years where Ryan Tannehill threw for over 4000 yards! Oh yeah, Wallace was a quitter. His *** would be cut by now playing under Gase. Please don't even remotely compare Landry to Wallace in a negative way.

    I keep hearing "he caught 10 tds". Wallace was a no better red zone threat than Hartline or Landry. He had no specific talent that garnered him those TDs. Most of it was just opportunity.
     
  39. MikeHoncho

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    My math might be off, but I do believe that's $13.5 Million for each hand he didn't use when catching the ball.
     
  40. Mcduffie81

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    He thought if he double caught every ball he caught he would make up for his drops too.
     
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