No. 1 seed — Patriots (11-2): The game coming up against Denver is huge. What's left: at DEN, NYJ, at MIA No. 2 seed — Chiefs (10-3): It doesn’t look like we can overtake the Chiefs: The Chiefs beating Tennesse and Denver would give us be a nice push in the right direction. What's left: TEN, DEN, at SD No. 3 seed — Steelers (8-5): A loss at Cincy and/or Baltimore all but dooms them since we own the tie breaker on head to head. Then beating Baltimore is our best medicine. What's left: at CIN, BAL, CLE No. 4 seed — Texans (7-6): The one division that really doesn’t matter. Would like them to beat Tenn. What's left: JAX, CIN, at TEN No. 5 seed — Raiders (10-3): The match up with Denver is the big. What's left: at SD, IND, at DEN No. 6 seed — Broncos (8-5): Denver still holds this spot over Miami despite the loss at Tennessee because of the common-games tiebreaker. Their whole finishing slate is brutal. What's left: vs. NE, at KC, vs. OAK. We need them to finish 1-2 to realistically have a shot if we drop one game. No. 7 Dolphins (8-5): Jets looked terrible last week. It is a conference game and away, but I think Matt will do Moore than enough. What’s left: Jets, Bills, NE No. 8 Ravens (7-6): Crushing defeat that they may not bounce back from. The injury to Jimmy Smith could have a major effect on their defense. When he’s not in they are a different team. What’s left: Philly, at Steelers, at Bengals No. 9 Titans (7-6), Although Tennessee beat Denver, its best path is still beating out Houston in the South. Another loss and they are done. No. 10 Colts (6-7): Indianapolis is a longer shot in that division now. Who's still alive — Bills (6-7), Bengals (5-7-1), Chargers (5-8): Cincinnati is working to finish strong for Marvin Lewis. Injuries are preventing San Diego from doing the same for Mike McCoy. Buffalo can't do much for Rex Ryan.
if the patriots win their next 2 do they automatically lock up the #1 seed? if so that could be big for us week 17
Depends on what Oakland does. If NE loses their last game to us they still beat KC for the 1st seed with a 13-3 record because the tie breaker goes to common games and those are: vs. Jets, @Broncos, @Steelers and Texans. NE will be 4-0 while KC will be 2-2. But against Oakland that's not the case. The common games are: Ravens, @Broncos, vs. Texans and vs. Bills. NE will be 3-1 (lost to Bills) while Oakland is currently 3-0 playing @Broncos in week 17. That means Oakland could get the #1 seed if they win out and NE loses any of their last 3 games.
Eh i hope the patriots are resting their players on week 17.. gotta take care of the jets first tho..
The Pats can't lock because of the Raiders and Chiefs...one loss and they slide considerably. So they can't technically lock until both teams lose twice or the Pats win the next three. The #1 seed may be decided in week 17.
All of this is moot if we cannot run the ball. We are 4-1 the last 5 games and have squeaked by games. Yes they have found ways to win, but how long does that last? They need to have their identity, what they had with those three straight home wins. I think Miami needs a new ID, and that is slinging the rock. Many teams have that and then use the run effectively inbetween. Pats do it, Pack do it. If teams are teeing off the run and daring us to pass, we have to do that. Hell , we have the WRs to do this. If they cant run block, then pass block. Who has enough corners to cover our three WRs. For us to be a playoff team, they must have an ID. Backing into the playoffs (even with wins) is a waste. Id rather lose the games instead of masking deficiencies Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I'll take a W any way I can get it. If we beat the Jets 9-6 in an overtime game, that's fine by me. Of course, i'd love to go in there and smash them, but a win is a win. We need some other teams to lose because as much as i'd like to see us win out, it's going to be tough with Matt Moore. We can go 10-6, and we can be a playoff team.
When he does have to pass, I would like to see Moore stick with high percentage passes. And when he does have to an opportunity to throw it deep then he needs to follow the rules and not throw into double coverage, etc. Moore is aggressive, but if he stays within the parameters of our offense then I hope we will be fine. It's gonna be a dogfight Saturday, but winning this game would be HUGE!
So basically the pats are very likely to be playing for something week 17 and we may be trotting out matt moore to face them Ehh I have a hard time believing we win at buffalo with matt moore let alone vs the pats week 17 with something to play for Heres hoping tannehills ready week 17
Yes, thats still alive. So is the chance that we make the playoffs at 9-7. However, the much easier scenerio to root for would be us winning the next two while Denver loses theirs (and that means NE wins).
Well, we need to win any two of the next three, right? So we could drop that Bills game and win at home week 17 to get to 10-6. As long as Denver loses two more, and they have a really tough schedule.
Very likely any two of the three, yes. There are reasonable senerios though where we could clinch the #6 seed after Week 16 though, so winning that one would make it so much easier, not having to worry about New England and whether or not they rest people. We could also rest our own guys then, and not push RT to get into a game hes not ready for.
Let's go down the rabbit hole on this. What if we are 10-6, Denver has lost to Pats and Chefs, and we are in. We could rest guys, or try and beat the Pats to knock them out of the #1 seed, right? Assuming the Raiders win out? Would 11-5 get us to the #5 seed and a match-up versus the AFCSouth winner? I don't care who wins that division, it would be the easiest potential win of the wild card weekend.
This is a rabbit hole only a rabbit might go down haha! Anyway, to the 11-5 question it all depends on what the Chiefs do. If the Chiefs only beat Denver, then they are also 11-5 and get the other WC. Conference record is tied so it goes to common games and we do beat them there if we win out. Common games are: Jets, Chargers, Steelers, Titans, with us playing the Jets twice and them playing the Chargers twice. If they only beat Denver that means their common games record is 2-3 while if we win out for us it's 4-1. So IF the Chiefs only beat Denver the rest of the way, then we get the #5 seed. Otherwise if they win at least 2, then they'd be 12-4 with the #5 seed.
I think it's pretty much a lock for the number 1 if they win the next two. Even if both the Raiders and Chiefs win their next three and the Pats lose the last one against us, they'll all be tied at 13-3...New England then seems to come out on top based on the tiebreakers. Here is what I got from the Playoff Machine: AFC Tiebreakers 1st Seed - New England AFC East Champ Wins tie break over Kansas City based on best win percentage in common games. 2nd Seed - Kansas City AFC West Champ (Wins tie break over Oakland based on head-to-head win percentage.)
That's only if they're all tied at 13-3. Try Raiders winning out and NE winning next two but losing the last game. Let the Chiefs lose a game along the way. If my reading of the NFL tie breaking procedures is correct, Raiders should get #1 seed if it's only between them and NE.
You're right, if KC loses just one game and Raiders win out, NE drops to number 2. If it's the Raiders that lose one, though, between the Chiefs and the Patriots, the Pats come out on top. I guess we'll just have to wait a couple more weeks to find out.
Fake it till you make it. I'd rather them stumble as far into the playoffs as possible. Move the stick forwards. Breaking .500 is a sorry measuring stick. Good teams mask deficiencies and play to the weakness of their opponent. Our D needs work and depth, but our offense was starting to flourish.
What measuring stick would you use then? Make it to January football? Take the division? Super Bowl or bust? Sweeping the Jets and /or Bills? Ten+ wins? There are lots of ways to judge the season, but I've personally already witnessed enough to say that our team is starting to become a legitimate contender. Patch up the defense, start building depth, and enjoy the youthful team we've put together. The measure of success will only grow in the coming years....regardless if we make the playoffs this season or not.
I'm calling it out with this anti Jinx, in an effort to derail an otherwise impending outcome, that we are being insidiously drawn from the solitude of our pessimistic lair, only to be shanghai'd in a devastating loss the Jets, a flatulent drubbing by the Bills, and then in a demoralizing horror show, experience the final outrage of losing in contemporary Dolphin style to a pared down, backup staffed Patriot squad. Remember, this may be a new coach, but this is still the same team that for better or worse you hitched your wagon to, the same team that cursed season after cursed season you've watched the wheels come off, and drag your team and dream into a ditch, the one we would again be destined to reside in til August. Let us hope this team is cleansed.
Thats been our measuring stick for how many years now? Gase has moved the needle forward, we can now hope to accomplish more. I hope next year we can start competing for the division and be competitive with some of the better teams. Why would anyone ever want this team to lose games?
Why do you even root for this team with an attitude like that??? Were you the same guy that said that we would go 7-9? I want them to win this week so you can come in here and eat crow or at least STFU with this bull c r a p.
My big worry is the weather conditions in week 16. ****ing Buffalo... when are they moving to a dome in london?
My mistake, I was editing and forgot to put back in the part about what I was derailing, and it being an "anti jinx" post. In fact, the second line reads like I got convinced of it. Deceptive bugger, might have known what i was up to, editing now.
Hes hated us since before I started following the NFL closely in 1990. Can't wait for him to retire so I can finally watch ESPN's coverage again without puking.
Pats and the Packers have two of the all time greats leading those teams. While i will agree we need to make plays in the passing game, slinging the rock will almost be a guaranteed recipe for disaster playing the next two division gms most likely in bad weather....adding in the fact that we have our back up QB playing, who has not had many snaps over the last 4+ years...bad move.
Preferring losing to doing the SAME THING 31 other teams do (mask deficiencies), I wonder what that feels like. You make the playoffs, by winning 2/3 of your last 3 games (DIVISION games, 2 on the road, no less), and end up with a 4-2 divisional record, you earned it...period.
If I were in his position, I wouldn't hold back my hate for the rest of the AFC East. He's being honest about it. I don't mind it. It makes me feel better when he has to show the highlights of his team losing to Miami.
The Eagles just went up 14-13 on the Ravens too, which is awesome for us. Houston is getting shut out 13-0 at home by Jacksonville, and has benched Brock Osweiler. Indy is beating up the Vikings in Minnesota.
It's nice we played yesterday and won, now we can enjoy this week, and root for teams to lose. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Cleveland looking to go 0-16. You know.. the last time a team went winless in a full season was the last time we made the playoffs (2008 Detroit went 0-16). Coincidence?? lol