QuarterBeck fumbles

I didn't see Beck fumble

 

I read he fumbled the first snap he took once he came into the game.

To the OP I do think he may be scarred after last season being repeatedly hit. He hasn't shown anything to prove why he should be kept on the roster and at this point I see him gone.

 

I think John has issues with mental toughness. He has faith, but he gets too anxious under pressure.

In his head too much instead of just playing and being instinctive.

Damned shame.

As I said awhile back, he doesn;t have mental fortitude and requires coddling before he'll bloom. Sparano is NOT the guy who will do that for him.

 

Didn't see the play in question, but Beck was charged with a fumble, and Matt Spanos (second-string Center) recovered. Sounds like another bad snap (ala last week's Darilek debacle) if Spanos got to it.

 

im happy with Beck. He's one of the best 3rd/4th string QBs in the league. Why would we cut him?

 

Throwing the first TD of his career is choking? I think you're misinterpreting Parcells' impressions that day. If he was so disgusted with Beck, why wasn't he cut immediately along with guys like Zach Thomas? Why did David Lee spend all offseason with him to change his throwing motion?

If I'm Beck, those two games gave me confidence. Gave the Eagles a decent run for their money, and almost beat the Steelers on that absolute disgrace of a field.

It's unlikely Beck gets cut at this point. If it were going to happen, it would have already happened--just like Steve McKinney, Keith Davis, Aaron Halterman, Jay Feely, and the rest who were cut without much delay once the decision was made.

If anything, the fact that Beck appeared in games three and four rather than McCown hints that Beck will be retained as the #3 QB.

So even though it's not Beck's fault, it's Beck's fault?

 

And yet in all likelihood he's going to be retained as the #3 QB over McCown, so clearly someone sees something in him.

 

Some of you guys are too funny. I'm surprised there hasn't been a dissertation written about Beck's whole life based a center-to-qb botched snap.

 

I guess Henne is a bust also, he fumbled and lost the ball last night!

Beck has a different center everytime. Last week was not his fault, I did not see this one.

McCown should be gone.

 

Who's said anything about Beck considering his time with the Dolphins funny?

 

I agree with Desides about BP thinking JB "choked". BP wanted him to succeed. Beck just did not convince BP (or anyone else) that he could develop into a legitimate QB in this league.

His problems taking the snap are just indicative of his problems being an NFL QB. And its too bad. JB is a nice man and a good human. I still think we might be able to get a fifth or sixth rounder for him. And at this point, you have to take WHATEVER you can get.

 

When you get the second and third team guys in place, there's bound to be mistakes...I didn't see this weeks fumble, but clearly last week's issue was the center. And the local media, last week, jumped all over Beck about that one despite it not being his fault... Probably why you got your thoughts on this post...

Too much is being made about his fumbling. His head has to be swimming right now. Not knowing whether or not he'll be on the team tomorrow, not being given the opportunity to compete by this regime and being largely ignored by the previous regime until they made the decision to put him in without really preparing him, no running game and WR that practically dropped more than they caught...

We don't know if he is 'mentally' ready or not because once again, the regime has failed to prepare him and give him the needed playing time with the guys he'll be on the field with should he get in there this coming season. It's somewhat understandable...afterall, Pennington just dropped into our laps and he's certainly the most qualified guy at the position so that bumped Beck back, but then they decided to give Henne the backup snaps...That's fine, but when you throw Beck into a game situation, again unprepared by the staff, you can't expect him to put out HOF numbers...and you can certainly expect him to have problems...

Beck's current state of mind has got to be pretty mixed up right now. Yours would be too...

 

How about it's just about this and nothing else...it's a qb that's probably not getting any meaningful snaps, if any at all, from a center who may not even be on the team next week.

 

How can you tell that Beck has an erosion of confidence? Did he tell you?

More than 3/4 of this board were jumping up and down last year with joy when we got Culpepper, yet he fumbles twice as much as Beck.

I think people just are not happy unless they find a whipping boy, and I guess that will be Beck this year for some of you.

 

We're not "getting" anything for Beck, inasmuch as he has been repeatedly confirmed to not be on the trade block. Add in the fact that McCown has not played since garbage time of the first preseason game, and the "Beck is getting traded/cut" idea is nothing more than a self-propagating myth.

I wonder what some people will say when Beck's name appears on the final 53-man roster. Will we revert to "I trust Bill Parcells" cliches, or will people start wondering if he's eating some of Ricky's laced brownies?

 

Fact of the matter is that both Beck and McCown are inadequate at the position.

That's why they drafted Henne and picked up Pennington. In a perfect world, both QB's would be cut/traded and a trusted career back-up who doesn't wet his pants in the face of a pash rush would be picked up. But it's not a perfect world, and considering we have the future in Henne, McCown becomes the most logical choice based on veteren experience alone. It's for the 3rd string spot anyway, so its kind of a silly debate (just like the one in which there were some who thought Beck would actually be the starter, ha).

If the Dolphins get to use their third string QB this season, they'll be looking forward to a top ten draft pick yet again. Whoopie, can't wait for that to happen.

 

I don't know if you're a fan of JB or not, and not that it matters, but your title seems to be making fun of or taking a jab at Beck.

 

I think keeping Beck is the way to go, McCown is what he is, Beck still has room to grow.

Henne has outplayed him, but Beck could still be a very good valuable backup here.

 

Out of left field correlations and analogys still, eh? Culpepper had a track record of winning games and he had a cannon arm and most of us thought that he had been fully recovered based on first-hand reports. Let's get real here.

 

Talk about beating a dead horse. Can't wait until the final cuts get here to put this topic to rest.

 

That's what he needs to be right now, otherwise, in the next year or two, we'll be using another draft pick on a qb, and several years invested getting him NFL ready.

On a side note, unlike some, I don't think going to Baltimore would good for JB, their OL is pretty bad (they sound worse than our OL was last year), which is the reason Boller got hurt.

 

We're looking forward to a top ten pick regardless. And frankly, we shouldn't be indignant about it: we need the talent more than we need the pride.

 

You're right. I should have said top 3. As far as the latter part, you could be right also and Beck would probably be more valuable to other teams down the line so for a pure buisness standpoint you keep him. I just don't know what Parcells wants more(he could very well want the guy w/ more experiece manning the 3rd qb spot) and I don't know which one of them carries themselves better around the team which will also be a contributing factor.

 

Regarding the question at hand. Yes his confidence could be pretty much shot at this point and it will take some time to build it back up.. I don't know though because I haven't talked to him. It could also be that his hands are too small.

 

You know, it's amazing. We've double-loaded talent at key positions in this draft: Merling and Langford at DE, Murphy and Thomas at OG, Parmele and Hilliard at RB, yet people don't see that we've double-loaded at QB as well with Beck and Henne.

The objective is to develop both players, have them compete against each other, and start the better guy down the road. This is why Pennington is a major acquisition: his presence legitimizes that strategy by keeping both guys off the field before they're ready. Between having his throwing motion completely remade and learning a new offensive system with brand new receivers, Beck is practically a second year rookie anyway. I don't know why people are so eager to write him off. Is it the Cameron connection? (Better get rid of Satele and Ginn, too!)

 

Larry, inspite of all of your EXCUSES, and make no mistake, they are nothing but excuses, the bottom line is that Beck has trouble handling the snap. "He wasn't prepared, his WRs dropped passes, it was the second string...Whaaa, whaa, whaaa." There are no tears in football, mi amigo. If it helps ease your pain by striking out at the media or those of us who have honestly evaluated Beck, thats undestandable. But his performance is what it is. And it ain't good.

In not one game last year, not in a preseason game this year, and from the evidence, hardly any practices, has John Beck looked like a potential starting QB. Don't blame me, its not my evaluation, its that of the PROFESSIONALS who run this team.

And no amount of excuse, blaming others, or crocodile tears is going to change the facts about Beck. And thats too bad, because hes a nice kid.

 

No excuse. Stay after practice and take snaps from whomever the third string center is. Taking a snap is the most basic fundamental a QB has to master. If you can't do that like clockwork, learning and executing the offense is irrelevant.