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Tua is not the Problem

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Galant, Nov 6, 2021.

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  1. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    I know, I'm so stoopid.
     
  2. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    I mean he was 27 for 44 268 yards with 0 TDs against Buffalo. Rating: 78.6. The score was 12-20.

    I'll give you his teammates like him, and he seems tough, but I'm not sure I'm seeing a good player here in the numbers.
     
  3. cbrad

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    That was an editorial, not a research paper. Big difference. Editorials are opinion pieces. You can read them if you want or not. But editorials aren't peer-reviewed like research papers which present actual findings.

    It creates an immune response through a protein specific to the pathogen. That's the same as all previous vaccines. The difference is that in the past you got those proteins from the pathogen itself. Now, that doesn't mean that the mRNA vaccine is as effective. Often immunity is conferred not through a single protein but through an entire set of such proteins which might not be replicated here. But it IS a vaccine and yes it does operate on the same principle.

    It's absolute garbage he and many others have been allowed to spew lies with no serious consequences. That goes for the media too. So it's good for society that at least in some cases there's a cost.
     
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  4. resnor

    resnor Derp Sherpa

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    Lies are free speech.

    These injections do not prevent transmission or disease, they are not vaccines.
     
  5. JJ_79

    JJ_79 Well-Known Member

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    They are vaccines and comparable to a flu shot the problem is, that the virus is always a step ahead and you‘ll never have the same protection compared to other vaccines for other diseases.
     
  6. Fireland

    Fireland Well-Known Member

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    Libel and slander is not exactly a new thing
     
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  7. BicketyBam

    BicketyBam No Fist Pumps Allowed

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    It's easy to look good when the guy you are replacing is Zach Wilson!

    White isn't bad and he looked great throwing to wide open receivers in that Bears game. His biggest issue is he can't play more than 3 games in a row without getting hurt.
     
  8. Fireland

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    It was the same broken ribs that forced him to miss games. It wasn't like he kept getting hurt. He just shouldn't have come back at all but Jets gonna Jets.

    Plus you can't fault him when you see how hard he got hit and he really toughed it out.
     
  9. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    They don't want to upset Tua by bringing in someone that could take his job.

    Should have really drafted someone.
     
  10. Silverphin

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    Keep this same energy when Rodgers gets outperformed by Tua.
     
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  11. cbrad

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    Not all free speech should be protected. Have to look at consequences. It’s never been the case in any society that all speech is protected. Slander for example.

    And yes the mRNA vaccine is a vaccine that confers protection. The biological mechanism is well understood.
     
  12. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    For the price Miami is paying, he'll do.
     
  13. Fireland

    Fireland Well-Known Member

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    I know you are trolling but since its actual football talk I will bite. The only people that could take his job are players that are being given starting jobs. Taylor Heinicke or whoever we were supposed to long for here is not going to threaten Tua. Neither would a drafted QB because all the good ones will be gone.
     
  14. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    LOL. Bro. Tua > Rodgers people are so damn delusional. Reality going to set in hard.
     
  15. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    Jalen Hurts in the 2nd round outperformed how many QBs in the 1st? You really don't know who is good or not. Need to keep drafting QBs until you actually hit, and sometimes that's drafting towards the back.
     
  16. Silverphin

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    You call me delusional when Aaron didn't even outperform Tua last season.
     
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  17. Fireland

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    In what was considered a great draft class which this isn't but they should just keep drafting QBs in mid rounds hoping they randomly get lucky? If they want to replace Tua then they should replace Tua if not he needs a backup and not a lottery ticket.

    Also if they drafted a QB you use that as a reason to trash Tua just signing a backup is somehow a reason to do so.
     
  18. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    Rodgers finished the season upright. He played on a broken thumb. He outperformed Tua. Compare their stats when they actually play equal amount of games. When Tua can actually stay upright a full season. When Tua needs to play through broken bones. Until then, it's just a super cherry picked statistical comparison of small samples.
     
  19. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    Not necessarily about getting "lucky." It's about drafting someone with tools, and then developing them properly.

    They need to keep drafting QBs in the hope of replacing Tua. What is your QB plan exactly if Tua fails this year?
     
  20. Fireland

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    150 more yards and 1 more TD on 142 more attempts. No wonder you don't want to compare their stats.
     
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  21. StaleTacos

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    Just going to ignore the part about playing in more games and playing on a broken thumb, and only cherrypicking one partial season of Tua's to compare players?
     
  22. Fireland

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    To draft a QB next year and move on would be my plan. They have a roster that should be competitive so Tua needs a backup who can step in right away. The 6th best QB in a mediocre draft class isn't getting this team anywhere.
     
  23. StaleTacos

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    So where do you think they'll pick next year? This team is too talented, so they'll be drafting QBs towards the back.

    And then if you roll with Tua for '24. You'll be stuck in similar, drafting mid to late in 1st, unless he's completely out of football which is certainly possible. That's even assuming Grier doesn't try to save his job by giving up a future 1st.
     
  24. Silverphin

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    Aaron Rodgers played more games than Tua. Not only did he barely throw more yards and TDs thsn him, he finished with a lower passer rating and didn't even throw for 300 or more even once, not even during the 5 game stretch where his thumb was healthy.
     
  25. Fireland

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    Well you said if Tua fails so I assume things can't go too well if he does.

    If they can't find a replacement in the middle of the first round then they aren't going to find it this year when they have no picks. You got to be consistent with your arguments.
     
  26. StaleTacos

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    You understand the Dolphins threw significantly more, right? Dolphins were 5th (62.21%) in pass to run, GB were 17th (57.66%), so of course Tua is going to have more yards and TDs. Not to mention, Tua had two of the best receivers in the game, and Rodgers had no one.

    Now compare 2021, or 2020. No? Saying Tua is better than Rodgers and using 2022 as your proof where Tua didn't need to play through injury and missed a 1/3 of the games is just fallacy.
     
  27. StaleTacos

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    The overall team is too talented. They'll still pick middle. And if Tua goes down early, they will go get a veteran and do even better, and then pick even later.

    LOL. No. I'm just highlighting your dumb argument they can't find QBs in the later parts of the draft. They can and should continue to try. They aren't picking at the top any time soon.
     
  28. Fireland

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    Rodgers threw it 142 times more than Tua

    Rodgers had no WRs because he couldn't be bothered to put in the extra work to build chemistry and instead threw it to Randall Cobb.
     
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    I never said they can't though. I said they shouldn't be looking for lottery tickets when they have other needs and very few picks.
     
  30. StaleTacos

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    Like talking to a wall. It's Rodgers fault Adams went to the Raiders, and they drafted a QB instead of bolstering the team, and then went on to win back to back MVPs. Of course.
     
  31. Fireland

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    Christian Watson started to look pretty good as the season went on. If Rodgers was truly motivated it would have happened earlier.
     
  32. StaleTacos

    StaleTacos Well-Known Member

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    Newsflash. The entire draft are lottery tickets, and Dolphins won't be picking at the top where chances are better anytime soon.
     
  33. StaleTacos

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    Sure. Just strange how all his teammates love him, will move for him, and are recruiting him on their team.
     
  34. Fireland

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    I don't see why they can't pick high. Sure they have talent but I heard Tua sucks.
     
  35. Fireland

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    Strange how Mahomes put in the extra work to get his WRs up to speed and surprise surprise it worked and losing Tyreek didn't slow them down.
     
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  36. StaleTacos

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    Tua doesn't suck. He's just mediocre, and his little body can't stay on the field. Too much talent on this roster to finish with the bad teams and pick high.
     
  37. StaleTacos

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    You really going to compare Rodgers weapons to Mahomes in 2022? The delusions just keep coming.
     
  38. Fireland

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    I am comparing the work they put in. Mahomes also doesn't play the blame game and he takes accountability when things don't go well.

    Rodgers puts in the absolute minimum in the offseason and then threw his WRs under the bus. Even openly questioning who should be playing.
     
  39. Silverphin

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    As already pointed out, Rodgers threw more than Tua. And the receivers argument doesn't hold water because no other QB on Miami's roster looked good with Jaylen Waddle and Tyreek Hill.
     
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  40. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Aaron had 0 300 yard games last year.
     
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