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Let's do it - a Grier Retrospective

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by texanphinatic, Sep 7, 2025 at 3:53 PM.

What is the worst Grier move?

  1. Charles Harris over TJ Watt

    5 vote(s)
    20.8%

  2. Tua over Herbert

    8 vote(s)
    33.3%

  3. Waddle over Sewell (or Parsons)

    4 vote(s)
    16.7%

  4. Drafting Cam Smith, his kid's buddy

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  5. Trading for Bradley Chubb

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  6. Extending Ramsey

    1 vote(s)
    4.2%

  7. Extending Hill

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  8. Hiring Flores

    1 vote(s)
    4.2%

  9. Hiring McDaniel

    3 vote(s)
    12.5%

  10. Other (Explain)

    2 vote(s)
    8.3%
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  1. Sep 9, 2025 at 3:09 PM #41
    texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    As in letting Rob Hunt leave?


    It was wild. The stats said Rosen was like the most unsalvageable bust ever and we spent a second rounder to bring him in to cut him. Maybe CBrad has a point in that someone may be desperate enough to trade for Tua ... but I maintain the injuries, contract and overall lack of production make that a fantasy.
     
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  2. Sep 9, 2025 at 3:27 PM #42
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    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    Yes. I know the price he got was too high for us, but just wish they could have worked something out rather then sign guys like Ramsey and give them extensions.
     
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  3. Sep 10, 2025 at 12:35 AM #43
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    This is how I felt. How can you make a determination on his recovery based off a few scripted throws? An MRI isn't going to tell you if he has the same physical ability to do the things he once did. It made whatever was on film irrelevant. The the script used would highlight what he could do but hide what he couldn't. Didn't understand it then, still don't.

    And now he's regressed. He was a better QB as a rookie with far less offensive skill players. If he's afraid to be hit, he needs to be benched for good.
     
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  4. Sep 10, 2025 at 8:08 PM #44
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    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Yeah man I get it. I actually really liked Tua and there was the whole Tank for Tua movement. But that hip injury was just so brutal and there was essentially nothing between that and the draft to give us a data point to how he would be. He was an amazing talent, but also an incredible risk.

    Herbert didn't have the production and also had some big questions, but just the physical tools and skillset was undeniable. I'm not sure how he would have done under the Flores nightmare and with Grier's crap ability to produce an OL, but he was the safer pick.

    I remember that draft and not entirely knowing how to feel after our pick. Happy we got to actually select a QB, but also kind of apprehensive about the injury and how it might affect him long and short term. Sadly, seems the apprehension was the right feeling.
     
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  5. Sep 11, 2025 at 6:58 AM #45
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    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Like you, I like(d) Tua but at the time, our team had (and still has) so many holes that I didn’t want to draft Tua. I didn’t believe any quarterback we drafted be it Tua or Herbert or anyone else would have any true success in Miami due to our anemic and turnstile offensive line. If anyone remembers my analogy, I wanted the “race car” built first before we got the “driver”. Well, we got the driver first and it seems like we’ve been building the race car since with all these gadgets we’ve seen on silly idiotic TikTok videos. How’s that worked out for us?

    I know there’s going to be the calls for McDaniel to be fired after the Buffalo game. Maybe it’s warranted, maybe it’s not but after 9 years, 3 experimental head coaches, a complete blow out of a season and fire sale of talent to build THE team, Grier has demonstrated his inability to build a dynasty of a powerhouse football team, let alone one that can even win a playoff game. If anyone is fired first, I want it to be Grier. I don’t want his fingerprints anywhere near any future of the Dolphins.
     
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  6. Sep 11, 2025 at 7:02 PM #46
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    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    We can soon add Waller to the list.
     
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  7. Sep 11, 2025 at 10:26 PM #47
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    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    He's this years OBJ frankly.

    And watching this Green Bay game, it's astonishing how we feel we can intentionally kneecap ourselves and be successful. It's like we go out of our way to have bad TEs. There are plenty of decent to good early to mid to even later round picks who we point out as being good potential fits that Grier routinely passes on to either trade out or draft some scrub.
     
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