What if Tua Retires?

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  1. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, we are on the same page. To keep him, he had to get a petty substantial contract and they paid it. I don't fault them for that move at all and it was the right decision.
     
  2. JJ_79

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    They know how to construct a team and draft, something we used to be good at a long long time ago, so the QB is not as important as in other places.
     
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  3. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    I think that had Hurts gone to a lot of other NFL teams, he'd have simply been a bust. Either a backup or out of the league by now. He's very limited. Plus, his body is breaking down the same way L Jackson's is. He won't be in the league much longer.
     
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  4. pumpdogs

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    Burrow was the best from this class and its not even close.Dude has been sacked more than Andrew luck 212 times and still has 154 tds.If only Flores took the tank money and we would be in a totaly different situation.
    Would of, should of, could of, just like if only drafted drew Brees over Jamar flectcher,and then Brown over Rodgers,Culpepper over Brees again,Long over Ryan,not to mention Lamar jackson who Ross wanted.
     
  5. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    I don't know, I have a feeling we would have taken Tua #1 overall.

    At least that's what Ross said he would have done about a month after the daft. Maybe he just said that to put rumors to rest that we would not have been better off with Burrow. Obviously that's not true.

    Flores wanted Herbert, and looking back right now, that was probably the correct move as well. I'm not sure we'd be a vastly better team with him, but at least he wouldn't be on the verge of leaving Miami.

    For Unlucky's comment, Hurts may not have made it in Miami, it's so hard to tell because we would have done everything different to adapt to his playstyle. No Waddle, for example, and likely no Tyreek. Maybe we don't trade Tunsil either and the rabbit hole that move brought. It's hard to project that without seeing it.

    And finally, for Lamar Jackson, I think maybe we have a Super Bowl ring with him in the Xavien Howard days. Lamar is not what he once was though and probably doesn't have a lot left...he's the same as any ultra mobile QB in that the career is never long. I love those types of QBs but I'd never draft a guy like that for fear of season-ending injury. But that's what we got with Tua so it's hard not to second-guess.
     
  6. pumpdogs

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    The rumour that came out last week is we tried to move up and offered the Bengals 4 number 1s for Burrow.But yes we should have drafted Herbert over tua that isn't even a debate now.As for Hurts I live in philly area and Hurts would have never made down here in Miami.Eagles have a great organization and know how to draft.Team is loaded.
     
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  7. KeyFin

    KeyFin Well-Known Member

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    I don't believe that- there's no way they wouldn't have taken the four picks and drafted Tua or Herbert instead. Who knows though.
     
  8. Unlucky 13

    Unlucky 13 Team Raheem Club Member

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    The rumor has been around since at least when McDaniel was hired. Its not new. As to how true it is, only the people involved really know.

    Personally, there's no way I'd have done it. I'd simply have drafted Herbert. And then watch the media hate him the same way that they did Tua because he was a Dolphin and not a Charger.
     
  9. Striking

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    Hurts is the perfect game manager. HCs of the 80s and 90s would love him. In today's wowowow Goodell NFL it can win you ball games when you control the LOS and don't turn it over.
     
  10. pumpdogs

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    Think about this.Would u have given up TuaJackson,Noah and Waddle for Burrow?
    I sure would have.That was next 4 number 1s we had.
    Of course easy to say now.
     
  11. pumpdogs

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    Technically it is 3 number 1s.The Number 5 pick for Tua counts also.
    And yes like striking said I heard this before.
     
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  13. Unlucky 13

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    No. Because while I think Burrow is better than Tua, and always have, ill never give up that much for an above average qb. It needs to be a once a decade prospect like Peyton Manning for that.
     
  14. pumpdogs

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    To each thier own.My opinion if that trade happened we would have at least been in a SB
     
  15. Unlucky 13

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    Oh no, I dont think that at all. Maybe the 4th best team in the afc a few times.
     
  16. pumpdogs

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    I guess you don't think much of Biurrow then.
    Head and shoulders better than Tua who at one point we were the number 1 seed in December.I was actually at the game for the number 1 seed after Christmas in Baltimore only to watch us get killed.
     
  17. Unlucky 13

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    Oh we'd have gotten killed by the Ravens that day with prime Dan Marino at QB. Just can't win in those situations. Have to win enough other games to make those not matter.
     
  18. pumpdogs

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    We would have had the number 1 seed with Burrow without a doubt and that game would not have even been for the number 1 seed.
    Watched that dude get absolutely killed by the titans in the divisional round getting sacked 9 times and still won.
    You think our line has been bad they are terrible.He got sacked 48 times last year and still threw 44 tds.
    They also have one of the worst defenses I have ever seen the last two years.
     
  19. pumpdogs

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    But hey no point in debating doesn't matter anyway I look at it.
    Time to look forward and Hope Ewers continues to improve.
     
  20. Unlucky 13

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    I have hopes that Ewers can be a good longterm backup for us. Fingers crossed.
     
  21. pumpdogs

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    Well I don't think he will be a long term starter but I have been wrong before.
    I am hoping next year he throws 30 Tds.
     
  22. Unlucky 13

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    Well, that's something only Marino has ever done, in the history of the franchise, and even he only did it four times. And only once after 1986. His final time was with the 1994 team, which in my opinion is the best one we've had since those mid 80s ones.

    I think that asking even a proven Pro Bowl QB to do that on next year's Dolphins, which look to be trending down towards being maybe the worst team we've had in McDaniel's time as coach, is a tall task. After all, only four QBs in the NFL have hit that mark this season.

    If Ewers started all 17 games and threw 20 Tds, I think that would be cause for good vibes. If he could play to the level of what Jay Fiedler or Gus Frerotte gave us, with fewer picks, then that's probably the best we could hope for.
     
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