good video card for the price?

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  1. anlgp

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    This is solved.

    Thanks a lot guys.
     
  2. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    Says you. I got my MSI 4870 for 2100 Taiwanese dollars. :tongue2:
     
  3. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Good luck with whatever you buy! :up:

    Now now, we're talking MSRP. No cheating. :shifty:
     
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  4. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    Enjoy the purchase, I'm sure you'll be happy with the 4830 especially over integrated graphics.
     
  5. anlgp

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    so fans really aren't necessary? i don't think there's a spot to put more regardless.
     
  6. Regan21286

    Regan21286 MCAT's, EMT's, AMCAS, ugh

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    I don't think you'd need it. If you live in a hot area, maybe. But the stock fan is fine.
     
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  7. anlgp

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    new thought.

    so what are the positives of this card?

    some places are saying it'll handle oblivion fine on high settings without AA and AF?
     
  8. USArmyFinFan

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    Heres a great place to go shopping for one. Some good deals here.
     
  9. anlgp

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    It's cheaper at newegg, thanks.

    What's the main difference between the 4830 and the 4850?
     
  10. USArmyFinFan

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    If you look at the spec, the 4850 has faster speeds but also a higher watt demand. You also need to conect extra power for the 4850. See specs below.

    GPU/VPU: RADEON HD 4830

    RAMDAC: 400 MHz

    Additional Features: HDCP Enabled
    DirectX 10
    CrossFireX Ready
    Game Physics Capable
    Shader Model 4.0, ATI Avivo HD Technology

    Video Memory: 512MB

    Memory Type: GDDR3

    Memory Interface: 256-bit

    Core Clock: 575 MHz

    Memory Clock: 1800 MHz

    Interface Type: PCI Express 2.0

    Interface Speed: x16

    Connector(s): TV/S-Video
    Dual DVI (Dual Link)


    GPU/VPU: RADEON HD 4850

    RAMDAC: Dual 400 MHz

    Additional Features: HDCP Enabled
    OpenGL 2.1
    PCI Express 2.0
    DirectX 10.1
    CrossFireX Ready
    Game Physics Capable
    Shader Model 4.0, ATI Avivo HD Technology

    Video Memory: 512MB

    Memory Type: GDDR3

    Memory Interface: 256-bit

    Stream Processors: 800

    Core Clock: 625 MHz

    Memory Clock: 993 MHz

    Memory Bandwidth: 147.0GB/sec.

    Interface Type: PCI Express 2.0

    Interface Speed: x16

    Connector(s): Video Out
    Dual DVI (Dual Link)

    Multiple Monitors Support: Yes

    Max. Monitors Supported: 2

    Operating Systems: Windows® XP
    Windows Vista
    32 and 64 bit Compatible

    RAM: 1024MB

    Power Requirement: One 6-pin PCIe Power Connector, 450-Watt power supply
     
  11. USArmyFinFan

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    Both cards are very nice, and you would not go wrong with ether one, I would get the 4850 if your system can handle it.
     
  12. Desides

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    Using the car analogy again, the amount of horsepower under the hood. The 4830 is a budget card, so in order to achieve the lower price point, ATi removed things such as stream processors and reduced the memory bandwidth to make the card cheaper to produce.

    You can overclock the 4830 to near-4850 levels, however you're still missing some crucial hardware that makes the 4850 a superior card. Put it this way: if the 4830 and 4850 were roads, the 4830 would be a 2-lane road and the 4850 would be a 6-lane road.

    Again, I don't think you have the CPU power necessary to make the 4850 a viable option. Ferrari in rush hour.
     
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    I found out I need a .. better? .. power supply.

    I have a 300W.
     
  14. Desides

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    300W is fairly low, yes. It sounds like your PC manufacturer selected something that was just enough, without any headroom for future expansion.

    At this point you should ask yourself how much you want to play the PC version of Oblivion, as you could get a gaming console like the Xbox 360 for $300 and just play Oblivion on there. The cost of the Xbox 360 is definitely less than the price of the components you'd need to buy, not to mention the time spent assembling the system. (Or the labor costs incurred if you have a local shop build the PC for you.)
     
  15. anlgp

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    well,

    i already bought the game so i'm kinda intent on playing the PC version.

    a video card for 100 and a power supply for 40 (20 something with mail in rebate) isn't so bad?

    does the power supply have to be built or can you just take the other one out and stick it in its place?

    i've read up on some compTIA material so I have a basic knowledge of things.

    PC is a Gateway GT5018e
     
  16. Desides

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    To replace the current power supply, you would have to physically remove every power cable in your PC, remove the power supply itself, then replace it with the new unit you purchased, then re-attach all of the power cables. It's a time consuming process, and you do NOT want to cheap out on a PSU. You'll want to go with a good brand like Corsair, BFG, PC Power & Supply, or Antec.

    It's easier to simply get a refund on your purchase of the PC version and get a 360 + Oblivion.
     
  17. anlgp

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    I don't mind doing the work.

    How hard is it, really? Or just time consuming?

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153052 that's the power supply I had recommended.
     
  18. Desides

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    Time consuming, both in terms of replacing the power supply and in terms of clearing cable clutter.

    Who recommended it to you?
     
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    A friend of mine. He works with computers.
     
  20. Desides

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    Should be fine for what you want to do, then. I certainly can't think of any better alternatives.

    Give it a shot and let us know how it goes.
     
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    :tantrum:

    I'm trying to get this card and there's a free version of WoW with it (trial version) but when i go to check out it comes up on the bill :tantrum:
     
  22. Desides

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    It should automatically deduct the price of the game from your basket with a separate notation.
     
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    also,

    would it be able to play madden 08? it is crapping out for PS2 (or the PS2 is crapping out) the reason i ask '08 instead of '09 is because they don't have '09 for the PC..

    here are the specs:

    PC Processor Type
    Intel® Pentium® III processor, AMD Athlon™ processor
    PC Processor Speed
    800MHz
    PC Operating System
    Windows XP, Windows 2000, Windows Vista
    PC System Memory
    256MB RAM
    PC Hard Drive Space
    2GB
    PC Video
    64MB Direct3D DirectX 9.0c-compatible ATI RADEON 8500, 9200, 9600, 9700, 9800, X800 or NVIDIA GeForce 3, 4 MX, 4 Ti, FX, 6 or 7 video card
    PC Drive Type and Speed
    DVD-ROM
    PC Modem
    DSL, Cable Modem
    PC Additional Requirements
    Internet service required to access online features
     
  24. Desides

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    It should load up fine. No guarantees about performance, but it should be playable.
     

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