It just happens that Ginns two catches in week 17 were HUGE plays. Both came while losing to give Miami the lead. The insane over the shoulder grab came while down 0-6. The flea flicker was while down 14-17, was a horrible pass, great adjustment, and set up the Fasano score to take the lead. Both were catches that no one else on our team is capable of making.
its not Ginns fault that Penning10 doesn't throw it to him. Ginn is the scape goat here. The deep ball isn't Penning10's specialty, and the coaches have Ginn running deep routes. The solution is to have Ginn run short routes or make Penning10 work out his triceps and throw the ball deeper with accuracy.
Getting back on topic... Chad Henne [19] Chad Pennington [57] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [18] + Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [13] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [12] - Yeremiah Bell [18] Patrick Cobbs [11] Joey Porter [27] Justin Smiley [2] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [61] Anthony Fasano [11] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [13] Tony Sparano [18] Jason Taylor [15]
With all this talk of Pennington not being the type of quarterback that Ginn needs, I'm surprised you guys haven't voted for Chad Henne to win this... i mean, being the Ted Ginn Mafia and all... free Ted Ginn right? Take off the parachute...
Chad Henne [19] Chad Pennington [57] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [18] Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [12]- Got potential but is a ROOKIE. Unproven. Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] + More love to Ricky Yeremiah Bell [18] Patrick Cobbs [11] Joey Porter [27] Justin Smiley [2] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [61] Anthony Fasano [11] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [13] Tony Sparano [18] Jason Taylor [15]
I believe you put him on the PUP list in training camp and then by week six you have to decide whether or not you're going to activate him, if you don't he goes on IR... either list doesn't count towards the 53 man roster.
I love Penning10, but i also realize that he's not the best fit for Ginn. Ginn needs a QB with an Arm that's accurate when throwing deep. Penning10 is doing whats best for this team. He throws short accurate passes and he doesn't take any risky chances like someone like Favre. Penning10 has very few turnover's b/c of the way he plays. That's why Penning10 has lead this team to 11 wins. I would like to take a closer look at his turnovers b/c i think half came from flat out good plays by the defense and the other half came from Penning10 trying to throw the ball out of his comfort range (Ginn territory).
Chad Henne [18] --- How can a guy who sits the pine win out over a starter named Ginn? Chad Pennington [57] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [19] +++ Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [12] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [18] Patrick Cobbs [11] Joey Porter [27] Justin Smiley [2] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [61] Anthony Fasano [11] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [13] Tony Sparano [18] Jason Taylor [15]
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [57] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [19] Ronnie Brown [74] --- Vontae Davis [12] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [19]+++ Patrick Cobbs [11] Joey Porter [27] Justin Smiley [2] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [61] Anthony Fasano [11] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [13] Tony Sparano [18] Jason Taylor [15]
Chad Henne [17] --- Chad Pennington [57] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [20] +++ Ronnie Brown [74] Vontae Davis [12] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [19] Patrick Cobbs [11] Joey Porter [27] Justin Smiley [2] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [61] Anthony Fasano [11] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [13] Tony Sparano [18] Jason Taylor [15]
Chad Henne [17] Chad Pennington [57] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [21] +++ Ronnie Brown [74] Vontae Davis [11] --- Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [19] Patrick Cobbs [11] Joey Porter [27] Justin Smiley [2] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [61] Anthony Fasano [11] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [13] Tony Sparano [18] Jason Taylor [15]
Heh... no, certainly not... it's based on the fact that he was starting last year and given a contract extension prior to the injury (rewarded for being the teams leading receiver at that point). You'd think that wouldn't sit very well in the locker room if he wasn't at least given an opportunity to come back. Now, if his injury precludes him from coming back, then that's a different story.
Chad Henne [17] Chad Pennington [57] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [22] +++ Ronnie Brown [73]--- Vontae Davis [11] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [19] Patrick Cobbs [11] Joey Porter [27] Justin Smiley [2] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [61] Anthony Fasano [11] Greg Camarillo [8] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [13] Tony Sparano [18] Jason Taylor [15]
Chad Henne [17] Chad Pennington [57] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [23] +++++++ Ronnie Brown [73] Vontae Davis [11] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [19] Patrick Cobbs [11] Joey Porter [27] Justin Smiley [2] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [61] Anthony Fasano [11] Greg Camarillo [7]------- Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [13] Tony Sparano [18] Jason Taylor [15]
Chad Henne [17] Chad Pennington [57] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [23] Ronnie Brown [73] Vontae Davis [10]- Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [19] Patrick Cobbs [11] Joey Porter [27] Justin Smiley [2] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [61] Anthony Fasano [11] Greg Camarillo [8]+ Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [13] Tony Sparano [18] Jason Taylor [15]
Chad Henne [17] Chad Pennington [57] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [22] - Overrated. Ronnie Brown [73] Vontae Davis [10] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [19] Patrick Cobbs [11] Joey Porter [27] Justin Smiley [2] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [61] Anthony Fasano [11] Greg Camarillo [9] + Underrated. Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [13] Tony Sparano [18] Jason Taylor [15]
Chad Henne [17] Chad Pennington [57] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [21] - Ronnie Brown [73] Vontae Davis [10] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [19] Patrick Cobbs [11] Joey Porter [27] Justin Smiley [2] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [61] Anthony Fasano [11] Greg Camarillo [9] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [13] Tony Sparano [18] Jason Taylor [16]+++
Chad Henne [17] Chad Pennington [57] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [20] - Don't stop fighting until the fight is done. Ronnie Brown [74] + True Survivor. Vontae Davis [10] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [19] Patrick Cobbs [11] Joey Porter [27] Justin Smiley [2] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [61] Anthony Fasano [11] Greg Camarillo [9] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [13] Tony Sparano [18] Jason Taylor [16]
Chad Henne [17] Chad Pennington [57] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [21] + Ronnie Brown [74] Vontae Davis [10] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [19] Patrick Cobbs [11] Joey Porter [27] Justin Smiley [1] - Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [61] Anthony Fasano [11] Greg Camarillo [9] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [13] Tony Sparano [18] Jason Taylor [16]
]Chad Henne [17] Chad Pennington [57] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [20] - Lamar Thomas / Tony Martin Ronnie Brown [75] + #23.... Vontae Davis [10] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [19] Patrick Cobbs [11] Joey Porter [27] Justin Smiley [1] - Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [61] Anthony Fasano [11] Greg Camarillo [9] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [13] Tony Sparano [18] Jason Taylor [16]
Chad Henne [18] + Chad Pennington [57] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [20] Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [10] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [19] Patrick Cobbs [11] Joey Porter [27] Justin Smiley [0] - Eliminated! Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [61] Anthony Fasano [11] Greg Camarillo [9] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [13] Tony Sparano [18] Jason Taylor [16] Did I do that right???
Yes Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [57] Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [21] +1 Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [10] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [19] Patrick Cobbs [10] -1 Joey Porter [27] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [61] Anthony Fasano [11] Greg Camarillo [9] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [13] Tony Sparano [18] Jason Taylor [16]
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [56] ------------- Davone Bess [15] Ted Ginn [22] ++++++++ Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [10] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [19] Patrick Cobbs [10] Joey Porter [27] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [61] Anthony Fasano [11] Greg Camarillo [9] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [13] Tony Sparano [18] Jason Taylor [16]
Chad Henne [18] Chad Pennington [56] Davone Bess [16]++++++++ Ted Ginn [22] Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [10] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [19] Patrick Cobbs [9]-------- Joey Porter [27] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [61] Anthony Fasano [11] Greg Camarillo [9] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [13] Tony Sparano [18] Jason Taylor [16]
Chad Henne [17 ---- Get this bum OUT!!! He doesn't even play... Chad Pennington [56] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [23 +++ This dude runs the unpopular routes...and gets NEGGED for it... Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [10] Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [19] Patrick Cobbs [9] Joey Porter [27] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [61] Anthony Fasano [11] Greg Camarillo [9] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [13] Tony Sparano [18] Jason Taylor [16]
Well folks there you have it... They think Pennington is holding back Teddy, yet the guy who can set him free is called a "bum"... makes about as much sense as healthy pizza...
I agree, I think that Henne CAN set Ginn free. However, I'm just using you guys logic, and applying it to Henne. Ginn runs the routes that the coaches call for him, those routes routinely take him out of Pennington's comfort zone, so the ball goes to Cam/Bess/Fasano. Ginn gets negged because of something out of his control. Henne sits on the bench because of the coaches decision. I neg him because he hasn't produced. Of course, let's ignore the fact that Ginn is a STARTER, and DID contribute last year, vs Henne who SAT THE BENCH. By the way, do you have zero sense of humor? Can you not sense sarcasm? I guess I'll have to label my posts from now on so that you can understand them. I don't think that Henne is a "bum." That was said to make a point. Apparently, you missed it.
]Chad Henne [17] Chad Pennington [56] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [24] + Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [9]- Needs to play a game first but when he does could be something special Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [19] Patrick Cobbs [9] Joey Porter [27] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [61] Anthony Fasano [11] Greg Camarillo [9] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [13] Tony Sparano [18] Jason Taylor [16]
Chad Henne [17] Chad Pennington [56] Davone Bess [16] Ted Ginn [25] ++++++ Ronnie Brown [75] Vontae Davis [8] ------- Will Allen [12] Ricky Williams [13] Yeremiah Bell [19] Patrick Cobbs [9] Joey Porter [27] Kendall Langford [12] Vernon Carey [13] Jake Long [61] Anthony Fasano [11] Greg Camarillo [9] Jason Ferguson [9] Phillip Merling [11] Matt Roth [13] Tony Sparano [18] Jason Taylor [16]