Merged 3X:Ted Ginn practices with second team

I read another report that stated not to put too much in that because of all the different receiver packages the Dolphins have. Ginn later came in and ran with the first team. Ultimately we will understand his role based on how much he plays on Sunday. Beware of drawing conclusions from the practice reports.

 

The headline says second team but the article says practice squad?

 

Yeah, second team apparently was even too generous

 

Shutting him down somewhat is the best thing they could do for the kid. Ginn has some serious weaknesses in his game that they need to work on. Keeping him out there as the number one guy is going to do more harm than good. To the team and him as well.....

Give him back his KR duties and use him off the bench at WR......hopefully he'll be able get himself together and be of some use to us down the stretch.

 

I honestly agree with Armando's blog post I read today (weird). It suggested throwing him into the game at the start, and letting him get a few downs in, and then taking him out and giving hartline a majority of the reps, especially in higher pressure situations. Then bringing Ginn in 100% for returns.

Get him into the game early where a mistake isn't as costly (it's still costly, but not as much), and where he can maybe start working himself into a rhythm and be less concerned with HAVING to make the big play.

If that doesn't work, I don't think there's really much else you can do with him

 

he makes to many errors.
knocking him down the list and forcing him to practice fundamentals is the best thing. he needs to stop taking his eyes off of the football before he gets his hands on it. he needs to position his body better to make catches. and he needs to run his routes properly.

if can just stop with the errors, he could be a decent receiver. he either needs a better wide receiver coach or he is too stupid to grasp what they him.

 

Ted Ginn heads back to the Tuna's doghouse

Posted by Mike Florio on October 26, 2009 8:06 PM ET

Two weeks ago tonight, Dolphins receiver Ted Ginn made an impressive catch on a long touchdown that helped deliver a win over the Jets.


On Sunday, however, Ginn was back to eating pre-game popcorn, with multiple key drops in the 46-34 loss to the Saints.


Per ESPN's Chris Mortensen (who likely still has a pipeline to his former ESPN colleague, Bill Parcells), Ginn will see reduced playing time going forward.


Mort also said that, if the trade deadline were tomorrow instead of last Tuesday, the Dolphins would be dialing up the Ravens and offering Ginn to the team whose offensive coordinator, Cam Cameron, drafted Ginn in 2007 with the ninth overall pick.


So why didn't the Dolphins do it last week? In hindsight, it would have been a great time to sell high, with Ginn looking great against the Jets.


As a result, Miami missed an opportunity, and now they're stuck with Ginn through the balance of the season.


Unless they eventually decide to cut him.

 

So what do you think about that guys??

 

I've noticed when Ginn is targeted early and often (See: Buffalo game last year) he usually has a nice game.

With the exception of the Jets game, I can't recall him getting off to a slow start and then making a big play.

 

I'm totally in love with the Miami coaches (no homo).

 

And than he dropped a pass in the end zone you forgot to mention!

 

The Seattle game last year he was not really doing anything until he caught that 40 yardish TD from Pennington (Which was his best catch of his career)

 

maybe we traded ginn's family to the ravens last week and that why he such a bad game.

 

I like this part now mind you this was only practice.
A bit later, Ginn lined up in one-on-one passing drills, beat new practice squad safety Nate Ness and dropped an over-the-shoulder catch in the end zone.
I said this weeks ago this kid lacks concentration plain and simple.

 

That was pretty early in the game, no?

 

Brian Hartline should be our new #1. I honestly think he has earned it. This kid is a keeper, and Henne loves him.

 

Open Competition for Wr

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/

Hmm...Brian Hartline would seem to be the natural replacement, but I'd love to know how Patrick Turner did, and what he showed.


Greg C, Bess, Hartline, we are not talking about a Wr corp that is exactly.."fast"...they all are really smart though.

 

It is good they are giving all the receivers an equal chance to show something. I am also going to guess Turner will be active Sunday for the first time. I am interested to see what he brings because he seems like a tall, red zone target.

 

I read in another blog where it wasn't actually a drop. Ness supposedly ran with him step for step and knocked the ball away. Which doesn't sound all that great either but....

 

I think that we should give Patrick Turner a chance.. He looked pretty good in preseason and he is a big target that Henne can get the ball to high.
Additionally, I feel that we should for the remainder of the season put Ted Ginn full time kick return/ punt return duties and he should also be involved in some passing plays, just in a lesser role. He is having Braylon Edwards syndrome.

 

He does seem to get better when they throw to him early and often. They did it in the Colts game and I thought he played pretty well. Well. until he dropped that last pass that would have won the game.

He has some serious issues in his head imo and with all the expectations of him, I think it's getting worse.

I do expect him to play plenty against the Jetsons though. Their secondary puts a lot of pressure on Wr's but one wrong move by them and a player with the speed like Ginn can make them pay big time. He will also open it up underneath and I know some comments here will be but he can't catch so why respect him? My answer is simple. It's because their coach is a stubborn sob that won't want to let Ginn get that deep on them again. He'll have a safety playing backside help with Revis more than a few times but this time where he should be instead of 5 yds in towards the LOS.

Had the safety been where he should have been the last game the pass might not have worked. Ginn also ran the wrong route. The second he was past Revis, he should have headed to the pile on where he would have had no help coming his way. He would have seperated himself by 8-10 yds.

 

I just listened to Sparano and Henne's pressers on aquavision.
Go listen to Hennes' take on Ginn.

Sparano is on cool customer IMO. I love his expressions when the press asks questions he thinks are dumb.

 

Disagree his TD catch against the Jets was much better because he actually went up and grabbed it. ACtually that whole game he was a totally different player.

I'm speaking of the Week 17 game last year.

 

this is good, I hope ginn is now challenged for his starting job instead of knowing he IS the #1 WR on the team.......maybe he'll try harder and stay more focused

wouldn't mind seeing hartline getting more targets also

 

I'm still shocked how bad are Receiving corp is that Turner can't even see the field. Is he that bad or just can't grasp the playbook?

 

I LOVE this move.
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Ummmm.......why?

He's got game film, he's been standing on the sideline watching.

When the ball is thrown to Hartline, he makes plays

When the ball is thrown to Ginn, he makes everyone wish we had thrown it to Hartline instead.

Why not just use the practice time to work on making Hartline a bigger part of the game plan?

We're 6 games into the season and you're having "tryouts"?

 

It's possible hes flat out terrible. I mean you can never tell with those USC guys as far as wr goes. It's so hard to judge any player coming out of that offense because as a unit they are all so good.

Almost every major Play i remember Turner making in college he was either WIDE open by at least 10 yards, or he was simply taller than everyone else. Now being taller doesn't get you a whole lot in the nfl because most pro CBs can jump over Cadillacs, and Turner is certainly not fast enough to get the same kind of separation he got in college. I'm pulling for him. His size would be incredibly helpful if he turns into a decent player. But Hartline making plays already and Turner staying inactive has me holding my breath.

 

I saw a story someplace that said Hartline and Bess lined up with the first unit and Cam was in the second unit.

It said when Ginn came in he caught his first pass but than dropped one in the end zone.

I'll try and find it.

Found it

http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thed...-side-as-1st-and-2nd-team-offenses-run-plays/

 

How come they waited until now to do a WR tryout? That should have been done before the season started.

 

Dolphins rookie WR Brian Hartline may take some of Ted Ginn's playing time

Something else to discuss...should be interesting.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/dolphi...1027dolphins.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=46

 

Ted Ginn Jr. off to the side as 1st- and 2nd-team offenses run plays

http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thed...-side-as-1st-and-2nd-team-offenses-run-plays/

 

It's not that cut and dry. Truthfully, very little ever is.

 

they did. and ginn won. When it comes to talent, ginn is the best we've got. In practice, it's probably night and day between him and the others when it comes to getting down field, making cuts, etc.

But on he's not getting it done on sundays.

 

Because he's got no reason to play scared during a no-contact practice...

This "try out" thing sounds dumber than the time out he called. Time for Parcells to step in I think....

 

Yea well the tryout is in the games every sunday. Each player will get their chance to shine and now its Hartline's time. Ginn gets those shots and drops the ball when we need it most. That wont cut it. Lets just see how it goes this weekend cause i like the way hartline plays.

 

EDIT: OK Nevermind you meant last years game sorry.

 

I will disagree with this because really the only 'talent' he has is speed.

The dude runs bad routes and has some issues with going over the middle or getting hit at all for that matter.

He's got one play.

Thats streak down the field as fast as you can. Go deep. Thats it. Unless you count the quick out in which if he catches it, he runs out of bounds before anyone can touch him, damn the first down marker (even if its only 1/2 a foot away).