The team has found an adequate quarterback, who has the worst QB rating in the league? The team may have very well found an adequate quarterback of the future, but it's still at least an adequate quarterback away from being anything special in the present.
If you think having the worst QB rating in the league is adequate, when QB rating is very strongly correlated with winning, I'm not sure there's much more of a discussion possible for us.
So since you base your entire opinion on QBR...you would rather have Kolb then Brady, Brees, Mannings, Rodgers?
I mean are we just naming FAs that switched teams this year and are playing decently and/or could've helped this team? It's not like you have to look THAT hard. Shawntae Spencer (1 year, $0.8 million) would've been a pretty clear (and cheap) upgrade based on what I saw of him when we played Oakland (he wasn't the guy we were picking on at all, blew up some of our plays). At corner, hell even Terrence Newman (1 year, $0.8 million) is playing better in Cincinnati than we've gotten out of Richard Marshall, Nolan Carroll or Jimmy Wilson here in Miami. Same with Cedric Griffin (1 year, $2.5 million) and Tracy Porter (1 year, $4.0 million). Stanford Routt (3 year, $18 million, $6 million guaranteed) has played better than any one of our corners. And of course if you want to stick with the high level guys, Cortland Finnegan (5 year, $50 million, $24 million guaranteed) is playing fantastic football (as uuuusge). Brandon Carr (5 year, $50 million, $25 million guaranteed) has been very good too, again if you're looking at the high rollers. That's just one of our problematic positions. In case you haven't noticed, Charles Clay is a drag on this offense at the moment and can't learn the playbook, and everyone's down on Egnew (fairly or not) and he can't see the field. It's a good thing Dallas Clark (who is close friends with Joe Philbin) wasn't available on a 1 year, $2.7 million contract to play virtually the same position as Charles Clay, otherwise we might look at that as a missed opportunity. For that matter, Joel Dreessen (3 year, $8.5 million), Jacob Tamme (3 year, $9.0 million) or Martellus Bennett (1 year, $2.5 million) could all be helping us out right now as well. And at the WR position we're so bereft there that any number of guys could be helping us this year, from bargain basement guys like Donnie Avery (1 year, $0.6 million), Devin Aromashodu (1 year, $0.7 million), Braylon Edwards or Brandon Tate (4 year, $2.5 million)...to mid-level guys like Steve Smith (1 year, $2.5 million), Jerome Simpson (1 year, $2.0 million...suspended 3 games), Jacoby Jones (2 years, $6.5 million) or Mario Manningham (2 year, $7.4 million)...or all the way to the top with Reggie Wayne (3 year, $17.5 million), Pierre Garcon (5 year, $42 million, $20 million guaranteed) or Vincent Jackson (5 year, $56 million, $26 million guaranteed). We'd be glad to have any one of those guys right about now. Free agency is always going to be pretty hit or miss. But let's not go on pretending there was simply NOBODY out there that would've made this team better right now.
We're talking about having an adequate quarterback, not distinguishing one from among the guys with the top ones.
And as for the DE position, sign a Cory Redding (3 year, $10.5 million) and suddenly you can have Jared Odrick focus on rotating at his most natural position at DT. Frostee Rucker (a guy Coyle is very familiar with) at 5 years, $20.5 million with $8 million guaranteed would've done the trick as well. Either would give better pass rush from the End position than Odrick is currently giving. For the pass rush, Juqua Parker (1 year, $3.0 million) would've been a good bargain signing. You also could've just signed Mark Anderson (4 year, $19.5 million, $8 million guaranteed) or John Abraham (3 year, $16.7 million).
John Abraham would have been an inspired signing, but he has durability issues (in game). So IMO, signing Abraham would have been a signal that we intend to contend for a lombardi very soon. I wanted Mark Anderson, like everybody else.
I can kind of understand not signing him though because they drafted Egnew. Now, Egnew has been inactive for the first 3 games and will likely be inactive Sunday, but they went draft over FA there. Don't have a problem with the strategy, though the execution hasn't panned out thus far.
I don't know why you could possibly think Corey Redding is equipped to do anything that Jared Odrick isn't. Has he played an outside position in the last decade? Frostee Rucker for that much money would be scandalously bad and signing someone just to sign someone. We're better off with Olivier Vernon and Derrick Shelby right now. John Abraham wasn't a realistic option given the salary cap situation. Mark Anderson and Juqua Parker aren't worth the money they cost for their performances. We want to improve our position, not block young players for no apparent reason. Most of these players you are suggesting are literally just repeating names of players people might have heard of with little or no reasoning behind them.
Right so they planned on Egnew from the start.......as FA was before the draft..... maybe Philbin didn't like he attitude IDK, but the guy can play....and for 2.5M or whatever over Egnew who is a prospect I just dont get it.....ESPECIALLY in light that this is Fasano's last year...if Fasano walks all of a sudden TE becomes a major worry if they dont chose to go the FA route to fill that need.....luckily Bennett is a FA at the end of this year as well....
They didn't spend a lot of mOney either...I think Redskins fans would argue there have been worst offseason seasons.
The question is would you rather have those players on our team and their contracts over having so much cap space and draft picks next year, all taking into account a first year coaching staff taking over wanting to rebuild?, maybe Ireland was aware of that before free agency?
How is that benefiting Ireland if this year is his year to make it or he gets canned most likely?? Like why is he saving for next year if this year is his hot seat year?
For winning? Not right now he's not, and that's reflected in the standings. Does he have a proven track record of success? Sure.
Man, I wish I could. You have an obvious agenda against Tannehill and you are posting the same thing in other threads.
Does anyone not think Tannehill will work out as a franchise quarterback (whatever that means nowadays)?
I don't think you're going to find anyone who's a fan of a team that selected a QB in the top-10 of the draft and has watched only three games of his regular season play who thinks that. But on the flipside of that, even if everyone thought he would work out as a franchise quarterback, it still wouldn't mean anything at this point.
Let me rephrase the question then -- did anyone not think Ryan Tannehill was one of the franchise quarterbacks in the 2012 NFL Draft?
The only person I've seen here in recent memory who has admitted to thinking that is a guy called "Laces Out."
Ah, so why don't you think he's franchise material? You sort of sound like you're coming out of the closet.
I'm not sure what I think in regards to that. I'm not willing to disqualify it, but I'm not sure how well my opinions on why it could happen are well-justified. I basically feel generally positive because I feel like his biggest issue is that his timing on throws isn't very good and that he's otherwise avoided a lot of other typical rookie pitfalls. Curious to see what your assessment is, though.
I don't think he's very good in the middle of the field nor do I think he's a quality decision maker.
