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DRAFT POLL: What is Miami's #1 Need?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by His'nBeatYour'n, Dec 10, 2007.

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Who fits Miami's #1 Need

  1. Darren McFadden RB Arkansas

    20 vote(s)
    24.4%
  2. Chris Long DE Virginia

    17 vote(s)
    20.7%
  3. Glenn Dorsey DT LSU

    42 vote(s)
    51.2%
  4. Sedrick Ellis DT USC

    3 vote(s)
    3.7%
  5. Jake Long OT Michigan

    9 vote(s)
    11.0%
  6. Matt Ryan QB BC

    11 vote(s)
    13.4%
  7. James Laurinaitis ILB Ohio State

    2 vote(s)
    2.4%
  8. Brian Brohm QB Louisville

    8 vote(s)
    9.8%
  9. Derrick Harvey DE Florida

    2 vote(s)
    2.4%
  10. Calais Campbell DE Miami

    2 vote(s)
    2.4%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. His'nBeatYour'n

    His'nBeatYour'n Glass Ceiling Repairman

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    I don't know about Cam. I just don't right now. But I do know that unless the Dolphins win their final 3, ruining the Pats undefeated season in the process, the Dolphins will have April's #1 overall pick.
    Barring a trade down, which are increasingly rare as guaranteed rookie salaries continue to rise. Which one of these players fill the Dolphins biggest need?

    Looking at the current ESPN scouts.inc top 10 I find myself uninspired.
    1. Darren McFadden RB Arkansas
    2. Chris Long DE Virginia
    3. Glenn Dorsey DT LSU
    4. Sedrick Ellis DT USC
    5. Jake Long OT Michigan
    6. Matt Ryan QB Boston Coll.
    7. James Laurinaitis ILB Ohio State
    8. Brian Brohm QB Louisville
    9. Derrick Harvey DE Florida
    10. Calais Campbell DE Miami

    The Dolphins are going to (hopefully) select BPA. Since it is still early December and there are Bowl games to be played and a combine to go through, this top 10 could change, but the Dolphins next great hope is likely in that list.
     
  2. billsfaninpeace

    billsfaninpeace New Member

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    You all really need to trade down.

    But I guess I would have to say McFadden if you cannot

    I think it is not the best for you

    But unless you stay a 4-3 and get out of this hybrid stuff you run Dorsey is not a 3-4 NT
     
  3. His'nBeatYour'n

    His'nBeatYour'n Glass Ceiling Repairman

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    I agree, but the more a team needs to trade down, the less likely it is to happen. Trade downs usually happen because 1 or more teams are desperately trying to trade up. We'll have to wait until early April to determine if this draft has that 1 player that another team needs.
     
  4. EightyTwenty

    EightyTwenty Don't laugh at the mule

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    Games are won (or lost) on the line of scrimmage. D-line would be where I'd start.
     
  5. mmikel30

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    Exactly That's Why The Patriots Win And I Hate The Patriots
     
  6. sweeper

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    yes n miami runs a 3 4 or tryign to. dorsey is a 4 3 guy unless he goes to LE during 3-4
     
  7. sweeper

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    well considering their o line is amazing and ours sucks balls id say o line is where we start AGAIN. need a G or two and a tackle.
     
  8. dolfan32323

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    McFadden, Ryan, or Long IMO.
     
  9. FinsAreLife

    FinsAreLife Well-Known Member

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    We need a Qb, in reality i deff know we'd never get dennis dixon or colt brennan but i really would openly welcome them to the dolphins cause i really want them, but ill soon get over the fact that it will never happen.
     
  10. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    Only Miami's dumb enough to trade for a guy with an ACL injury.

    People need to get over this pipe dream fast. McFadden will NEVER BE a Miami Dolphin.
     
  11. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    This poll has left out DE Vernon Gholston, a serious contender for going #1 overall.

    Honestly, our need at #1 depends on the free agent market: players we trade and players we sign will change the needs that seem so apparent to all of us right now. For example, if we sign Marcus Trufant, we don't need to look at CB in the draft: a 1-2 tandem of Trufant and Will Allen would instantly become one of the top five cornerback pairings in the NFL.

    For what it's worth, I voted for Dorsey and Long.
     
  12. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    At this point we could take almost anybody and it wouldn't be a terrible pick. In this situation I think we need to take the BPA regardless of position (maybe even McFadden).

    This is going to be a lengthy process and we need to remember that the draft and free agency aren't cancelled after this year. There are more opportunities to get players. We're not gonna fill every position in one off season
     
  13. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    If the team can land a good CB and a good RT or LG it would open up a lot of options in the draft.
     
  14. mmikel30

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    BRENNAN MIGHT BE THERE IN THE EARLY SECOND LATE FIRST
     
  15. Pink_dove

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    If you put a gun to my head and asked me to pick a defensive end this year, it would be Quentin Groves out of Auburn. He switched positions moving to strong side 'backer, but prior to that was an absolute terror. He stole the show against Kansas St. earlier this year.

    You cannot tell a guy that's gone full speed all his life, to suddenly attack the quarterback from a mannequin position, not to mention the added read and react that is involved. It goes against the very nature of the individual, and is similar to what our coaches have done with Matt Roth. He's far more effective at 265 than the present 290, coming around the corner. He might be a liability vis a vis the run game, but I always thought we would envision him to be a Trace Armstrong lite.

    As I've said in a prior post, I really like Dorsey, but frankly, I don't see a position where we don't have needs, except maybe running back.
     
  16. NaboCane

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    one word: otah.

    but not with the first overall pick.
     
  17. His'nBeatYour'n

    His'nBeatYour'n Glass Ceiling Repairman

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    The only reason another team would offer up a pick for a RB coming off a torn ACL is because they would be getting a bargain. Ronnie Brown is not going to be 100% until 2009. That is just the reality of these injuries. He would have more trade value at the trade deadline that year than he would this offseason.

    I have no problem drafting McFadden and keeping Brown, and if they both develop into all-pro's then you trade the older one (Brown.) But you don't give another team Brown for less than his value before you know exactly what you have in McFadden.

    The Saints didn't immediately trade Ricky when they drafted, Deuce. And they didn't (wisely) trade Deuce once they drafted Bush.
     
  18. djfresh47

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    Considering how impressive the run defense or lack there of, Dorsey makes too much sense, IMO. People can argue that he doesn't fit the Dolphins system, i'd argue that I don't know if Capers should be here next year or any of the coaches.
     
  19. Dorfdad

    Dorfdad Well-Known Member

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    Mcfadden and trade ronnie brown..
     
  20. Whitedolphin54

    Whitedolphin54 From the land of legends Luxury Box

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    Miami's need is a CB or DL. I didn't even see a Cb on the list
     
  21. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    Is this a popular scenario? I love Ronnie, but this would be an amazing swing for us.
     
  22. thedolphinsmakemecry

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    Sounds good, but I don't expect any team would trade a first round pick for any player, much less a player coming off of a knee injury. I hope we're able to trade down multiple times especially in the first round. As much as I would love some top 5 talent, we have so many holes to fill.
     
  23. Two Tacos

    Two Tacos Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    No it doesn't. It gives us Mcfadden, Williams and a 3rd for Ronnie AND Dorsey. Regardless, no way Detroit makes that trade for an injured Brown, and IMO, no way we offer that trade with out an injured Brown. He was the offence. He is still the leading rusher and pass catcher on the team. Before he got hurt, we were saying at least the offense works.
     
  24. unifiedtheory

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    Dorsey won't play the nose when we are in the 3-4 mode, he'll play one of the end spots.
     
  25. unifiedtheory

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    I totally agree but there is no corner worthy of a top 5 pick IMO. We HAVE to address that position in free agency.
     
  26. Conuficus

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    Well away from here
    There are 7 rounds in the draft you know, maybe we could try rounds 2-7 for a CB.No?
     
  27. Smacks

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    Miami needs too many players for just one pick
     
  28. sweeper

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    miami should go FA for cb, Otah with teh first 2nd pick (hopefully hes ther eon the board) and a CB with a 4th maybe cuz i want Steltz with the 3rd.
     
  29. #1dolphinsfan

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    i dont not think we need to draft a RB in the first round this year if the dolphins want to draft one there are ALOT of good RB in this years draft and i not to sure about McFadden
     
  30. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    Well your living in denial world if you think that we could pull a first for him. If Miami could pull a first for him then WHY trade him?

    Sorry but anyone that thinks McFadden will be here next season is seriously seriously fooling themselves. It isn't going to happen.
     
  31. adamprez2003

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    The three most important positions to get are Pass Rushing Defensive End, Left Tackle and Quarterback. There are no Left Tackles other than Clady if he comes out. Chris Long is a very good Defensive End but his game is more all around and I dont think he'll be putting up double digit sacks in the NFL. Unless you watched Beck in college and are convinced the guy has some amazing NFL qualities that we havent seen yet, QB is still up for grabs and there are three potential franchise QBs out there, Ryan, Brohm and Woodson. Woodson would take the longest to develop and has the most downside and upside. Ryan and Brohm could probably start towards the end of next season. Pick the QB and spend the rest of the draft addressing other positions. Jeff Otah as a tackle might be available 2nd round and pass rushing Defensive End Jeremy Thompson from Wake Forest might be available in the 3rd round.
     
  32. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    No top tier CBs this year although the draft is decent in terms of depth but just with solid Corners not the game changing types
     
  33. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    Gholston would definitely be a consideration. Good call
     
  34. adamprez2003

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    That's my second rounder. Dont know if he could start right away but the guy is going to be a beast for a long, long time in this league. Would be a great 2nd round pickup if he lasts that long
     
  35. vt_dolfan

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    Yeh..I love.Ronnie...but if we could trade him for a first....and we took McFadden....you have to do it. HAVE to. We are in such a hole now..picking up another #1 would be huge. But do you honestly think any team would trade a 1st for Ronnie with him being hurt?
     
  36. His'nBeatYour'n

    His'nBeatYour'n Glass Ceiling Repairman

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    At #1 you take BPA. You don't look back on that pick 10 years later and regret not taking the BPA because you already had a player at that position, especially one coming off an ACL injury. If McFadden is the BPA, take him, if Dorsey is BPA, you take him.

    Who was the last RB to return to 100% from an ACL before being 2 years removed?

    Having two great players at any one position is a problem every franchise would love to have.
     
  37. nstand

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    Dorsey, Long or Long. Would be nice to trade down and still get one of these.
     
  38. finfan1966

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    Wow thats sad to say that only 11% percent think we need a quarterback. I hope who ever the gm is they don't think like that. We can get a defensive tackle in round two. I say with our first pick its franchise quarterback all the way. We have Ronnie and Ricky, its time to finally pick a good QB. Not a 27 year old bust and not a high round kick returner.
     
  39. Ronnie23Brown

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    Which is why you would want McFadden. Ronnie has yet to play 16 games in a 3 year career. He was in a 2 back system in college and seemed to have his best season sharing with Ricky. Do you trust Ricky for a full year? I don't. Chatman was ok, but there was a reason he was out of football for awhile. You put Ronnie and RunDMC in the backfield and you'll have explosion.
     
  40. padre31

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    And then resign Hadnot, and pick up a RT or RG in FA and we would have a viable offense, maybe a Te as well, but my goodness, that was easy.

    4 players and our offense could shine, that is one of the reasons "why" I favor drafting McF.
     

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