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Dolphins: Jimmy Graham and the Senior Bowl

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  1. ATVZ400

    ATVZ400 Senior Member

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    Dolphins: Jimmy Graham and the Senior Bowl
    http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sport...sweblog+(Miami+Dolphins+|+Sun-Sentinel+Blogs)



     
  2. dolfan7171

    dolfan7171 Well-Known Member

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    Sounds good to me.
     
  3. Caps

    Caps Movimiento Juvenil

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    I'd think about him if he were there in the 3rd depending on who was still on the board, and I'd be all over him in the 4th.
     
  4. High Definition

    High Definition No Smoke / No Drink 2011+

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    This to the exact.

    He's a guy that if you like enough yet place a fourth round grade on, you take him in the third if there isn't any extreme value available.
     
  5. shaunm000

    shaunm000 Well-Known Member

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    HAHA, that was a cute little quote.
     
  6. Rdrunn004

    Rdrunn004 Active Member

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    I was hoping this guy would be a UDFA, but I see that he has too much potential to go undrafted. I think he has great size and is much more athletic than Haynos and would probably be an upgrade. Question is if he is worth a mid round draft pick. I am not sure if that is the case. I also like Nathan Overbay from eastern washington who may go a little later.
     
  7. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    4th round pick
     
  8. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    glad to see sparano likes atkins and owens. either one would be a nice pickup imo
     
  9. Jaj

    Jaj Registered

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    Sparano and his big men...
     
  10. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    :lol: i think geno atkins could be a #1 WR for us :shifty:
     
  11. Jaj

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    One thing I've never really seen put into place permanently would be a defensive scheme where the 3-4 relies on a player like a Geno Atkins attacking from whatever gap he sees fit up the middle next to the NT. He could crash the second blocker against the nose tackle causing havoc. As long as you find a way to make up for the lack of a blocker like a Geno Atkins in coverage he could theoretically play ILB. He's at 6-1, 286. At 6-1, 270 running about as fast as Ayodele isn't it possible for a guy that big to play the TED if the guy behind him is a very high range flexible ILB not so much like a normal 3-4 ILB but rather a D.J. Williams or Ernie Sims?
     
  12. alen1

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    Nate Allen is pretty good IMO. To me, he's not much different than Morgan Burnett, who many like. Both have some discipline issues when it comes to executing their assignments but both have a ton of potential IMO.

    As for Jimmy Graham, they were at the Canes practice a month ago so they've shown interest in him before.
     
  13. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    Miami is also apparently really liking what they see in Cameron Sheffield. They have been putting him through linebacker drills, and he has been showing well in those drills.
     
  14. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    From everything I've seen on tape, he's pretty stiff changing directions. I assume they like him going downhill. I don't know how good his hips looked in the LB drills but I'll watch it later this week. How did his hips look in your opinion?
     
  15. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    he's stated that he's willing to play lb so who knows. I wouldnt mind having that free roving DT/DE either. It woud certainly be interesting. I think he's eventually bound for a 4-3 team but I could see him going to a 3-4 team as a DT/DE. If he can make the switch to LB that would be fascinating but I cant project how he would do
     
  16. #1dolphinsfan

    #1dolphinsfan New Member

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    It would be nice to see both Nate Allen and Jimmy Graham in a fins uniform
     
  17. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    He probably has a better burst than Lang, but Lang to me is a better all around player.

    I could live with taking Graham somewhat early, what I really want though is some answers to lingering questions, we simply cannot move into 2010 with Soliai, Ayodele and Crowder as our up the middle defense.

    The results would be very predictable and not very good.
     
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  18. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    agreed Friend Padre31:
    the middle needs fixing
    can't make chicken soup
    out of chicken droppings
    need more than a cook
    you the right ingredients
     
  19. DolfanJake

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    Sparano and company look outplayed and outcoached in the 1st half today. Tebow did squat.
     
  20. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    anybody impressed by NT Dan Williams? I'd say he's caught our eye.
     
  21. NorFlaFin

    NorFlaFin Active Member

    Yes, he did hopefully he jumped over Cody for the first NT off the board and push MT Cody into the second round.
     
  22. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    Lions coaching staff is winning the senior bowl.
     
  23. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    i think that's a definite now. Codys done nothing but get bigger and bigger and not in a good way.

    If we can't get McClain or Berry (lol, a man can dream) then i think D. Williams is the pick easily.
     
  24. Desides

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    Are you actually grading in-game coaching in the Senior Bowl? It's a glorified scrimmage, for crying out loud. If not for the draft implications this would be even less meaningful than a preseason game.
     
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  25. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    not to be a sour puss but has anyone seen graham block? honestly i thought john nalbone was a better blocker. Graham is a project. he can catch but he's one dimensional. has parcells had one dimensional TEs before
     
  26. Desides

    Desides Well-Known Member

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    Jason Witten was a terrible blocker coming out. He learned.
     
  27. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    was he that bad? i dont remember. he's good now. i'm just wondering if parcells would want that type of project when it comes to blocking.
     
  28. Clipse

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    Was there ever any question?
     
  29. Clipse

    Clipse mediocrity sucks

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    Brandon Graham or a trade down for say, a Jerry Hughes isn't out of the question either.
     
  30. Clipse

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    I agree. You can tell Sparano and co really wanted to see how his blocking was with the amount of snaps he took blocking as opposed to doing what he does best. Unfortunately, his blocking was disappointing. Fortunately though, he can learn to improve in that aspect.
     
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  31. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    played great today but not sure i want him. The guys a bit undersized and frankly he didnt go against a single player whose gonna play LT in the NFL. He's a little undersized. Doesn't fit parcells ideals at all at LB.
     
  32. Desides

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    Parcells and Ireland didn't mind drafting a blocking project in Jason Witten. I don't think they'll mind drafting a blocking project in Jimmy Graham, especially if he can be at least as good of a receiver as David Martin.

    We need the receiving help more than we need the blocking help.
     
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    What prevents you from simply starting him in the slot until he returns to block? If anything it'll improve the run offense with him out wide against a smaller man rather than a LB.
     
  34. alen1

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    Graham has his moments. Did you watch him against Wisconsin? He looks as equal or better blocker than Jermaine Gresham. Against Wisconsin, he was doing pretty well against Watt.
     
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  35. padre31

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    Well, who knows?

    DMart was not a good blocker, he could go deep though.

    That is what Jimmie g offers
     
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  36. Clipse

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    I personally don't see too big a drop off between him and Jerry Hughes. Not to mention you don't know if Brandon Graham can play standing up, Hughes has already shown that ability.
     
  37. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    surely you jest....

    I would be royally pissed off if we take a none need position in the 1st round. We NEED linebacker, a FS, WR and TE. We don't NEED a two down NT...
     
  38. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    Hey, if McClain is there, McClain is the pick. I'm not fully against drafting Brandon Spikes either but i might go with D. Williams over him.

    NT is an impossible position to fill. LB isn't. If you can get a NT, you get one. LBs can be found all over the place.

    FS would be nice but im not sure theres gonna be one worth taking at 12 at all. Wr would be nice but Dez Bryants the only option there and he'll likely go higher than us too. As for TE, not in the first.
     
  39. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    how come we dont have any? I would consider Graham at 12.

    Berry but I dont think he is going to be there. Earl Thomas would be a nice pick if we traded down a few spots to get him.

    I agree that Dez is the only WR I would consider at 12. Tate would be good after a trade down.
     
  40. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    you may be right. i have taken hernandez and pitta off my board but perhaps they are options as well as graham
     

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