Dolphins interested in Boldin?

We also need to take into account that in his first year, Fitz was not there and Boldin had a monster season. He and Fitz make the ultimate tandem but both are clearly capable of being the go to Wr.

Agree that he gets hurt alot but he also plays hurt and plays well. Couple him with our Wr's and the group instantly becomes a threat.

I'd do it for a 3rd but also I do have to say that if Dez Bryant is on the board and McClain is off, thats very tempting....

 

Let's not also discount what he would be able to teach our young WR's. Especially a young Wide out like Turner whos main "reported" trouble is getting off the LOS while in press coverage.

 

Anquan Boldin: Miami Dolphins Brass Reportedly Talking Trade with Cardinals

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ins-brass-reportedly-talking-trade-with-cards

 

it could work

 

I still think we will be able to get a 4th (maybe higher) for JP. So I would rather a 3 straight up then trade porter.

 

Well I mean his Value IMHO is at least a 4rth. So if we are going to bundle JP and a 3rd I think It maybe a bit high. Although I wouldn't be heart broken if it happened, but if the Fins are offering a 3rd straight up and Zona agrees then jump at it and then trade JP later for a 4th and then we are basically only swapping our 3rd for another teams forth and getting Boldin.

PS. No I don't want JP back. Just want to see us get value for him.

 

Hmmm, who did we have in our WR corp that had 84 catches and 1,000+ yards this season? Has plenty of NFL experience, is tough and willing to play hurt, and has said publicly he would like to play in Miami. And we shouldn't give up a 3rd for the guy? HELLO????

 

Exactly and that is how a GM would think, adding him to a Boldin trade would just be a sweetner and would avoid Porter winding up in the AFCE.

Heck how about this, a 3rd and Porter for Boldin and swap draft position on a pick?

A sort of pretrade up in the draft we could trade our 6th for their 4th.

 

Yes, a third round pick for Boldin is a damn good trade.

Parcells desnt take Tackles in the First
Parcells doesnt take CBs in the First

So who is really running the show? Or has Parcells changed his ideaology? Tuna also said that the Dolphins are intrested in getting a WR.

 

Double Xtra Sports 1090 in So Cal reported today that Miami has offered the Cards a "high draft pick" for Boldin.

 

I'm guessing our second round pick was offered.

 

Wow. An "off" year and he still had 84 reception and over 1k receiving and he's not worth a 3rd? Has the whole world gone insane?

Simply put, anybody who doesn't think Boldin is worth a 3rd is overvaluing draft picks and does not realize what a commodity a proven WR is in this league. These people are also living in a fantasy world where a 3rd round draft pick is magically going to turn into a pro bowler.

Do any of you really think a 3rd round player can help this team more than an established WR? A guy that had 1300 yards in his rookie season with NO Larry Fitzgerald? Come on. Get real.

A year ago we were talking about dealing a 1st for him. One "off" year, and suddenly he's not even worth a 3rd. That's just plain crazy talk.

 

Well in short a 3rd rounder "can". Thing is though how likely is it that we get a third rounder that has that type of impact? Small to say the least. I'm with ya bro if we can get a game changing receiver like Q then i'm pumped.

I can just picture Q running right over Revis on his way to a TD.

 

I'd be a little bit upset if we give up our 2nd, we can get 1st round talent at our spot. I'm sure that feeling would wear off though.

 

I got a feeling JP may be tied to this offer. If not I'm not sure how stoked I would be giving up the 11th pick in the second round.

 

OK I've got the plan.
Porter, Thigpen and our 2nd for Dansby and Boldin and we swap 3rds.
Eh?? What do ya think?

 

I would be glad to see a good hands physical receiver by the name Boldin in a Miami jersey.

Then we could concentrate on Def with our draft because our receiving corp would be set next year no if or maybes to it.

 

That hit on Boldin is the hardest hit I've ever seen a WR take. I know the outcome wasn't as bad but it looked worse than the Tatum hit on Stingley. I would have bet a lot that no WR would come back as quickly as he did. That looked a like a season if not a career ender.

 

You want to know whats even more impressive (to me). It wasn't the fact that he came back a few weeks later. It was that when he came back he continues to play in that same fearless fashion that we all grew accustomed to. most players suffer a hit like that and they are never the same.

 

This.

 

I would take Boldin for a 3rd all day, every day. Does anyone have the names of our last 5 years of 3rd rd picks. Let's see the value in them and see if Boldin compares.

 

Maybe, Ireland and Gaines did pull Cam Wake out of the CFL so they do have an eye for oddball talent acquisition.

There is also the possibility that Ryan Baker blossoms at NT or Chris Clemons at Safety.

 

"A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush" comes to mind =)

 

Thanks FY. I found the list and I think taking Boldin with the 3rd would be a "hit". As opposed to a possible hit. I do agree with the bold.

 

That's not a decently sized IF, that's a monumental sized IF.

I certainly won't argue that we don't need help on defense, because we do. But if we take Boldin with our 3rd, now we can use our 1st and / or 2nd on defense. Wouldn't you agree that a 1st or 2nd round player is much more likely to make an immediate impact on defense than a 3rd round pick?

Plus you have to realize that adding a legitimate threat to our receiving game helps our defense as well. You need only look at the superbowl champion Saints defense for evidence of this. The Saints defense was not a great defense by any stretch. But since playing with 2 - 3 score leads for much of the season they were able to pin their ears back and go after the QB, causing turnovers and other big plays on defense. That's what happens when a defense doesn't have to play honest.

I've said this a million times if I've said it once, but in today's NFL the best defenses cannot stop the best offenses. (See Jets D vs. Colts in playoffs). But a great offense can help a good defense look great. See Colts, Saints.

 

Check out this list and tell me what you notice concerning current dolphins players:

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/pdleaders.php?draftyear=2008

I've watched a ton of CFL games (again) on youtube (CFL.ca) and Grice Mullen is one heck of a good kick returner, he still runs a 4.36 and gained experience just playing pro ball "Up North".

Little Dude is fearless when it comes to returning kicks, he is sort of the Anti Ted Ginn with nearly the same speed.

And I'm keeping an eye on the Broncos practice squad roster, I thought NT Chris Baker would be there and he had some knowledge of Nolan's system, but alas, they bumped him to the regular roster, if they cut him I expect him in Miami.

 

What are you basing this on? You really think this has just been an off year for all 32 defenses? Or does it make more sense that the NFL has instituted rule changes that make it much easier on offense and much more difficult on defenses. For the record, if this was pre 2005, I would agree with you. But today's NFL is different. It's a passing league. If you can't pass, you're not going to go very far. A team with a dominant defense will still not excel if the offense is putrid. See the Ravens. For years they had the same dominant defense, but only made the playoffs when they got some help on offense. Their defensive performance was in direct correlation with offensive production. It doesn't work the other way around. Even the best defenses will wear down if the offense is consistently going 3 and out.

Sure it's possible to get a quality starter in round 3. Possible, but not very likely. If you can get your hands on an established WR which is a huge area of need for this team, why would you roll the dice on an unproven 3rd round rookie? Boldin's worst season on record would most likely be more productive than any season a 3rd round pick could string together.

But of course, giving up a 4th as opposed to a third would be ideal. But I think Boldin is absolutely worth a 3rd if that's what it takes. Or even a 2nd.

 

I was going for:

GRice Mullens finished in the top of the Combine with a 4.36

Hillard finished in the top of the Combine in the 3 cone drill with a 6.36 or so

Dimitri Tsoumpas finished at the top of the Combine with 30 reps of 225

The Outsiders and Unknowns that we are picking up have good measurables.