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A Little Dansby Info

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  1. MaddMatt

    MaddMatt New Member

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  2. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    depends on what our plans are in FA as a whole. Maybe Dansby's the only guy we want? never know.

    Sign Dansby and draft a wr, olb or a safety and that's a pretty good offseason
     
  3. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't write him off after one article. I fully expect that he'll test the market and that the Dolphins will speak with him. I also don't see the Dolphins as frugal as some here portray us to be. I thought the contracts for Crowder and Carey were very large, arguably above market. I think they'll give the big contract for the right players and I have no problem imagining them deciding that Dansby is the right player.

    I also see ILB as one of the deeper FA positions. Foote is another guy who is expected to be available and while he isn't in Dansby's class would be a clear upgrade for us.
     
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  4. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Arizona wont tag him again he'll hit the market
     
  5. MaddMatt

    MaddMatt New Member

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    It is one of many articles I've read, saying the same thing. Crowder's contract was nothing special, and Carey signed for a bit less that he could have gotten elsewhere. I do not see Foote as any upgrade.

    IF we were talking Wilfork, I would MOST DEFINITELY agree on the RIGHT player, and would consider breaking the bank for him. Just imagine him in between Starks and Langford. Hell, I would pay admission just to see that. He would make EVERY player on D better.
     
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    If he seeks money that is similar to Calvin Pace, which I think is possible, then we could have interest in him. Whether we shell out enough money to attract him here is a different story IMO.
     
  7. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    he's going to want more than pace. Dansby is far more established than Pace was, and still is. He's had a great career so far and he's playing a far more important position too.
     
  8. MaddMatt

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    He wants a whole lot more than Pace.
     
  9. alen1

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    He might want more, you could be right. He's playing a different position though. I do agree that he's more established.

    Wouldn't you agree that an OLB in a 3-4 is a more important position than an ILB in a 3-4? I think so but maybe we have a different opinion on this.
     
  10. alen1

    alen1 New Member

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    I haven't seen him say anything about how much money he wants but maybe I missed it. Can you link me?
     
  11. MaddMatt

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    IF you believe that an ILB is mre important than an OLB, you are dead wrong.
     
  12. PhinGeneral

    PhinGeneral PC Texas A&M, Bro Club Member

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    Agreed. And Parcells is known to be a pretty big fan of Dansby, for what that's worth.
     
  13. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    ILB is the field general of the defense. He's the guy that everything runs through. Patrick Willis, Ray Lewis, Totupu, beason, mayo, dansby etc. These guys are all the hearts and souls of their individual defenses. Take them away and their defenses are instantly weaker.

    Hell, you could see it in our defense this year. Crowder went down and Torbor stepped in and there was a clear drop off. And crowder is no all-pro ILB.

    OLBs get the sacks, sure, but they're replaceable. (right now it looks like 5-7 OLBs are gonna go in the first round of this years draft. Only 2 MLBs will go in the first this year, and that's depending on Spikes who may fall)
     
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  14. Ozzy

    Ozzy Premium Member Luxury Box

    It really depends on the scheme but I still think ILB is the most important position on Defense. At least one of them (if it's a 3/4) is the signal caller and main run stopper. He should also be able to cover.
     
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  15. late again

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    I wouldn't say that. Larry Foote is an UFA. 29 yrs old and has played all but last year as an ILB in the Steeler's 3/4.
    http://www.detnews.com/article/2010...ote-will-test-free-agent-market#ixzz0ebjm92Zx
    http://www.nfl.com/players/larryfoote/profile?id=FOO434041
     
  16. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    If Dansby wants 'Pace' money, we'll pay it. This regime offered nearly the same guaranteed money for Pace as the Jets did.

    In an uncapped year....two years later.....I don't think we'll have any qualms paying Dansby, who is only a year older than Pace was but unquestionably a better player, a bit more. Mike Dee said a few weeks ago that money won't be a problem this offseason. The question will be whether the player is worth it.

    Incidentally, Dansby has the same agent as Ronnie Brown.
     
  17. PhinsRock

    PhinsRock Premium Member Luxury Box

    I would really love to see us pick up Dansby or Foote, immediately improves Crowder and should help our interior DL. Opens up draft pick #12 to Dez or a NT or other possibilities.

    If we're not cap strapped, I could see Ross opening up the checkbook, just so long as he lets Parcells put the "pay to" portion in there.
     
  18. Desides

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    No cap means no cap strapping. The only limitation on our ability to pay free agents will be the franchise's cash flow and willingness to pay. There's no cap room to worry about.
     
  19. MaddMatt

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    I don't have the link. One article I remember was from the Herald's Barry Jackson on his sports Buzz. I think it was from around two weeks ago.

    He said Dansby wanted $20-$25M just in guaranteed money, and did not think he was worth it because he did not make enough big plays. That's a JP type contract.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/columnists/barry-jackson/story/1407004.html

    I just found the link I "thought" I was looking for. This one is 5 weeks old, and does not say guaranteed money. I know there was another that did but, do not recall where I read it.

    I think it was from a Zona paper or, I could have e-mailed Barry on it. I'll post it when it comes to mind.

    Regardless, this is a VG read on FA's.
     
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  20. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    I love his attitude too. He just makes plays and lets the fame and fortune come his way thru his play. He is not a diva.
     
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  22. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Apparently Dansby was on the radio and said that Miami was a place of interest for him....

    from Schein via twitter....



    dansby on giants - "if they have interest in me, why not? let's go" - also listed sd, mia, and washington as interesting options.
     
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  23. gafinfan

    gafinfan gunner Club Member

    If Foote had interest from the Cards last year and Dansby wants a great deal knowing that the Cards are somewhat cheap. Then why not let Danbsy go and sign Foote, for less money, making both men happy while saving money too?

    Would love to see Dansby here.
     
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  24. MikeHoncho

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    The simple fact that he was a Team Captain on that team says a lot to me right off the bat.
     
  25. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    Jon Beason isn't, but Barret Ruud is.
     
  27. #1dolphinsfan

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    If he does i really hope we dont draft McClain in the first round they are to much alike
     
  28. #1dolphinsfan

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    Ryans, Morrison, and Brackett are RFA unless a new CBA is reached which probably wont happen. Beason isnt a FA untell 2012
     
  29. Springveldt

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    Just because the guys you mentioned are good/great players that doesn't make their position more valuable. Good players are more valuable than bad ones, simple really. :)
    Most of those guys play in a 4-3 btw.
    Do you think the Steelers could easily replace Harrison and Woodley? What about the Cowboys with Ware and Spencer? The Chargers D that was one of the best in the league collapsed when it lost Merriman.
    In a 3-4 OLB is more valuable than ILB as you are relying on those outside guys getting to the QB.
    If OLB's are so replaceable then why are they drafted higher than ILB? It would seem teams in the league value OLB more than ILB just by were they are drafted.
     
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  30. MaddMatt

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    In years gone by, the MLB was almost as important as a QB. Teams ran A LOT, and if you did not have someone in the middle to stop them, you were dead.

    Now, it's a pass happy league, and if you cannot get pressure on the QB, you are dead.
     
  31. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    While the typical ILB is not a core player and not as impactful as a pressure player, I do value Dansby a bit higher. I watched a bit of what SF did with Willis last year. They would use a ton of nickel or dime D with just Willis in the middle. I could see Miami using Dansby in a similar fashion.
     
  32. MaddMatt

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    IF we were talking Willis, I would change my opinion in a heartbeat. IMO, Dansby is maybe 70% of Willis but, can cover.
     
  33. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    I rate Dansby as closer to Willis than you (about 85% IMO). What I don't get is the McClain love. I see as much of a chance that he ends up a two-down LB as not.
     
  34. MaddMatt

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    I over-exaggerated a bit. Agree on McClain.
     
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  35. Silverphin

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    I don't know about you, but if I had two Karlos Dansby's working the middle of my defense, I'd be happy.
     
  36. #1dolphinsfan

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    i wouldnt be happy one that is fine they are both good tacklers but we need someone who is going to be a leader and is going to strike Fear in the offense's and IMO nither one of those two are able to do that. i think out of this draft two that come to mind that would scare offense's are Brandon Spikes, or Micah Johnson
     
  37. padre31

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    Dansby will be on the open market, but at what salary?
     
  38. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    I understand not wanting to give out huge contracts to free agents and overpaying, but Karlos Dansby is exactly what this team needs. He's a proven player in his prime at our most dire position. We have got to try to get him.
     

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