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The Franchise Tag Thread

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by finyank13, Feb 11, 2010.

  1. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Okay boys and girls, today is one of the days I look forward too, teams can place the franchise/transition tag on players from starting today until 2/25.......Who will be hit?!?!!? Wilfork? Marshall? Scheffler? Dumerveil? V-Jax? Peppers? Dansby? Soooooo many questions will be answered over the next 2 weeks.......

    As they get tagged I will place them on here, and please fellow football addicts do the same...as we can keep all of us informed, and essentially we can get a clearer picture of where Miami could go...last year there was 14 guys, how many this year???
     
  2. JimToss

    JimToss Thank You Chad Pennington

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    I doubt we see much activity in franchise tags until it is absolutely determined if there will be an uncapped season or not. In an uncapped year teams will be allotted one franchise tag and 2 transition tags.
    I'm also sure these tags may be used more often if the salary cap disappears.
    Plus until then you don't even know who your UFA's are.
     
  3. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    I wonder which team blinks first.
     
  4. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    true Jim, but the dates are hard dates....activity will happen..
     
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  5. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    I say the Pats and Wilfork......:no:
     
  6. JimToss

    JimToss Thank You Chad Pennington

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    Shoot. My bad man.
    But I still stand by the fact of we won't be seeing much activity until it gets closer to the deadline. 2 more weeks until they have to make a decision which means 2 more weeks of potential CBA bargaining.
     
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  7. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    oh absolutely I agree, I just get excited, college basketball while nice sucks as the only sporting thing around...plus I wanna see who Denver tags, Padre knows why..:tongue2:
     
  8. MaddMatt

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    The Comish was on Mike & Mike a couple of days ago. It did not sound good at all. They both thought the same. I believe it will take an "Act Of GOD" to come to an agreement by March 5.

    I do agree with you that we will not see much action early other than what teams would do regardless of a last minute deal.
     
  9. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    the good thing is it is only 2 weeks long so it should come soon...it will fly by...
     
  10. MaddMatt

    MaddMatt New Member

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    In addition to College hoops, there's the NBA, it's All Star game, hockey, Winter Olympics, soccer, the anticipation of baseball's spring training, NASCAR, wrestling, frog jumping, and roach races.

    What more can you possibly ask for? :pointlol:
     
  11. MaddMatt

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    CORNERBACK: $9.566 million (franchise), $8.056 million (transition)

    DEFENSIVE END: $12.398m, $10.193m

    DEFENSIVE TACKLE: $7.003m, $6.353m

    LINEBACKER: $9.680m, $8.373m

    OFFENSIVE LINE: $10.731m, $9.142m

    PUNTER/KICKER: $2.814m, $2.629m

    QUARTERBACK: $16.405m, $14.546m

    RUNNING BACK: $8.156m, $7.151m

    SAFETY: $6.455m, $6.011m

    TIGHT END: $5.908m, $5.248m

    WIDE RECEIVER: $9.521m, $8.651m

    The franchise tag is an average of the top five salaries at a position for the 2009 season. (Or, in the case of "exclusive" franchise tags, the average of the top five salaries as of a TBD date this coming April.) The transition tag is an average of the top 10.

    Here's a list of what the franchise and transition tags will cost.
     
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  12. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    NASCAR whats that??
     
  13. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Matty whats the transition tag about??
     
  14. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    Transition tags allow the player's existing club to match any offer that exceeds the tag itself. They can either match or decline and let the player walk away. A right of first refusal, essentially.
     
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  15. finyank13

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    Like this....?? So the transition tag falls under the same monetary scope as the franchise tag correct?? or are you talking draft picks, cuz if a team hits said player with a t-tag, how would another team be able to offer anything but a draft pick...

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/11/teams-have-a-fifth-option-for-rfa-tenders/
     
  16. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    The numbers are slightly different because Transition is top 10 at the position, Franchise top 5.

    There's no compensation involved. If a team outbids a transitioned player, the player's original club can match salary or allow the player to walk. If no one bids on them, the player comes back to their original club.
     
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  17. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Okay good stuff, heres the last question, if you have a F-Tag, thats it, the original team offers top 5 and he signs it exclusively to that team or their is a holdout, cut, trade, but nobody else can offer.....however if a team T-Tags (haha close to T-Bag) someone, and offers the top ten salary, another team can offer more?? so the T-Tag isnt exclusive right??
     
  18. Vengeful Odin

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    They can offer more, but the original team can match that offer and retain the player. That's the whole point of tagging them as a Transition player. Make sense?
     
  19. MaddMatt

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    There are two different franchise tags, exclusive, and non-exclusive.

    Exclusive is the average of the top five players at a position but, the average is to be set in April, allowing for new contracts to raise the price. This does not let a player negotiate with other teams.

    Non-exclusive is the average of the top five from last season. This allows players to negotiate with other teams. If the player gets a better offer, the original team can match it and keep the player. Or, it can let the player sign with the new team and get two first round picks.

    The non-exclusive comes into play if a team may consider trading the player for the right price. It can negotiate down from the two first rounders.
     
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  20. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    yeah perfect sense VO...so the F-Tag gives only the club team exclusive rights to the player w/o other teams interference, pays the avg top 5 at the position, and player either signs, doesnt and holdouts, or gets traded

    the T-Tag allows the team to offer the avg of the top 10 in the position, and another team can match and retain, or just let the player walk...

    the difference is exclusivity....between the 2....I got finally ugh!!! thanks brother Oden
     
  21. finyank13

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    right Matty, so where does the T-Tag come into play?? is the non-exclusive portion of the F-Tag AKA the T-Tag....
     
  22. MaddMatt

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    No connection whatsoever, entirely separate.

    T-Tag is a right to match another offer, nothing more, no picks involved, no compensation in any way, and a top 1o average in money. That is the second number in list I posted.
     
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  23. Vengeful Odin

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    The team that I'm interested in watching is Carolina ... if they franchise Peppers again they have to pay him his '09 salary + 20% ... so he'd be making something like 20 mil in '10. I don't see it happening ... but it is an uncapped year ...
     
  24. finyank13

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    who really knows but all good reasons....the money even in an uncapped year is bonkers bro!!

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/12/panthers-dont-plan-to-franchise-peppers/
     
  25. RevRick

    RevRick Long Haired Leaping Gnome Club Member

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    That's the alternative for the Lemans Series and the Petit Lemans Series for those whose cars only turn left!
     
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  26. MaddMatt

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    Peppers no longer wants a long term deal with Carolina, or so he says. I will be SHOCKED if they franchise him again.

    Many think that the uncapped year is going to have owners acting like "drunken sailors" spending monopoly money. I cannot, even remotely. believe this will happen.

    With few exceptions, I see owners showing financial responsibility, and roughly staying within the boundaries as if there were a cap. There may be one next year if there is a season.

    This is not baseball, and hopefully never follows it.
     
  27. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Okay so no tags yet, but as the days go on there sure will be a couple.....just some rumors like Sharper and a guy from the 49er's
     
  28. Vengeful Odin

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    That would be Aubrayo Franklin, Nose Tackle. Franklin will be 30 to start the NFL season, but is likely going to get franchised by the 49ers.

    Casey Hampton and Vince Wilfork are the other 3-4 NTs rumored to be getting the Franchise tag. That means we've got very few options to replace Ferguson in FA.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4916593
     
  29. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    absolutely and the name your starting to hear now alot is Dan Williams...at 12...people are somewhat down on McClain...
     
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  31. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    here we go boys and girls, something has to happen right?!!?!?!?! Rolle, Seymour, VW, Dumerviel....nobday yet?? I would expect that to change....
     
  32. padre31

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    has the FA signing period already begun FY?

    I thought it started 3/6?
     
  33. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    haha I didn't even recognize you Pads, with the new avatar, no no FA starts in March.....franchise/transition tag deadline is this Thursday at 4PM (thats what Cap said anyway) and so far nobody has been tagged....and looking around there are so many names I'm interested in....for Miami that I hope don't get tagged....
     
  34. padre31

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    HeHe, yeah with Joey Porter going rogue the Band of Brothers is officially over, so Henry the V has been retired in favor of the CFL's version of Don Shula, his name is Wally Buono and he is the CFL's all time winningest coach.

    That you did not know who he was is sort of why I'm using it as my Avvy as a kind of homage to a great Coach that 99% of NFL fans have no idea who he is or what he has done.

    Heck the Dolphins have poached 4 guys from his team in the last two seasons so Sparano has some sort of respect for a fellow Italian's ability to coach guys up, Buono developed Cam Wake after all.
     
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    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Owe I recognized Wally, but it took me a minute to figure out Padre31 was you hahahahaha I was so used to the other one!!
     
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    Tags are due by the 25th. We will not see many, if any, tenders for RFA until March 3-4.
     
  37. RevRick

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    And, all this time, I thought the Band of Brothers was on thephins.com board...Ah, well. I guess I'll have to go back to playing Wooden Ships & Iron Men.
     
  38. padre31

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    Soon, the team has not yet been formed RR, after the draft and Free Agency then we will see how onboard the Forum is with the player moves.

    Then we will see if the Band of Brothers has been reassembled, everyone pretty much hung together last season going into the Pittsburgh game with a shot at still making the playoffs.
     
  39. finyank13

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    we just saw one today, the one I feared the most, which is everybody knows by now, Wilfork is gone......okay where does that leave Miami...?? I think Miami would have went after Wilfork over Dansby pretty quickly....
     
  40. finyank13

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    As expected...............

    49ers today announced they have placed the non-exclusive franchise tag on NT Aubrayo Franklin.
     

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