And that is why a majority of the people around the world with any interest in the NFL draft pay attention to what Mel Kiper has to say before the draft And that is why three guys on the beach in Cuba read what your opinion is in the paper that they find above the shoreline, right before they use 1/2 of it to wipe their pooters and the other half to start the bonfire. Or maybe they were just checking to make sure all the sand was off... Why do you still have a job Mandy??? Are your knees dirty?
im sorry but if McClain and Dez Bryant are still on the board you take the BPA and that is Dez Bryant and IMO it would be a lot harder to pass on bryant then McClain. ILB like RB are the two easest spots to fill on a team IMO
I'd be ecstatic to get either one of those guys and OK with Brandon Graham, but Dez White is without question my favorite prospect in this draft. I really think he's going to be a perennial All Pro receiver. With that said, I hope he's there at #12 and McClain is gone. I don't even think LB vs. WR will be a "fair" debate with this FO. If not, I'll be pretty happy with McClain as well. Win-Win.
i hope you are saying if we sign Dansby we draft Dez. even if we dont i would still draft Dez over Rolondo
Its gotta be McClain if thats the choice. To me the debate will be ILB or OLB. WR will elicit a round of laughs from our warroom if suggested
Its Parcells, we have a better chance of drafting the beard guy than drafting a WR with our first. Come to think of it............
Gee...Ya' think Mel? Wow!!!! Freakin' Wow!!!! I never thought Miami would actually debate McClain/Bryant!!!! Truly amazing!!
Sorry but if we pas on Bryant for anyone but Eric Berry then this front office is screwed up. He can take the entire offense to the next level. Short yardage, stretch the field, red zone (this guy catches TDs like few others do), providing the reliable target Henne needs to continue to succeed. Its a simple fact, you want to succeed in the NFL you get a QB and make sure hes got talent to protect him, to throw to, and to take pressure off him. We have 2 of the 3. We need 3 of 3, and McClain aint it. Hes not a bad player mind, and if Bryant is gone, I wouldnt mind him with the pick, but hes not the defensive solution that Bryant is to the offense.
This EXACTLY!!! We in here have already been saying this for a month. Womder which of us in here is really Kiper For the record, I will be estatic if it actually comes down to this, but, I don't think we even sniff Bryant unless we move up about 5 spots or so.
I just don't think Bryant will be there when we draft at 12. And if McClain isn't either we have to trade down to around 20. Graham would be a good pick but not at 12.
I would have to go with Dez too. I haven't had the time this year to go over player in this draft, but I have had my ears open, especially when our own gurus post. From what I have gathered so far, Ro is not a "once in a blue moon" player. Infact, and I could have analyzed this wrong, but I'm gathering that there is a Ro in most drafts. Bryant in comparison IS that rare player.
man who cares who we take. If McClain and Bryant are both still on the board, clearly hell has frozen over and we have bigger problems.
This, for real. If somehow both of them fall to us at #12, I'm going to be so confused I don't know what to do with myself. The odds of Bryant staying up there till #12 is pretty darn minimal if you ask me. McClain stands a much better chance. I'd honestly be hoping to grab an NT that early though assuming we don't have that problem solved.
Put me in the camp that hopes it's McClain, assuming both are still on the board. Bryant may be a spectacular WR, but I personally feel McClain fills a more important and more glaring need. I know many here will say WTF to that, and point to a pretty average (at best) WR corp. To which I say, you're right. But, so is our LB corp. In fact, you could argue our group of LB's is a lot worse than our WR's. How many games did we lose last season due to inferior play on defense? Games we were up, big, only to collapse defensively. We showed we can score points with our O, especially with a healthy RB. But, our D couldn't stop anyone from scoring. And, what about targeting a WR in the 2nd/3rd round (or later)? So, if we pass on Bryant, does that mean we're ignoring the need to find a big, physical play making WR? I don't think so. What about WR's like LaFell, Benn, or Thomas? And, what about Pat Turner? Are we giving up on this guy? We are if we draft Bryant IMO. I think if we draft Bryant, we're in effect saying oops, my bad on the Pat Turner pick last year. We missed, so here...we'll invest a #1 into another WR. Me, personally, I wanna see what this guy can do on the football field. Maybe he is/was a project, and he just needs time to mature into whatever he was invisioned to be when they used pick #87 on him last year. Also, ask yourself this...does Bryant bring any baggage with him? I mean, I don't know. I'm just asking. Many WR's seem to be prima donnas anymore. Is this guy's head screwed on straight? 'Cause I think it's safe to say McClain's is. To me, that's gotta be a huge part of the decision. You want someone that wants to come in play football. Not potentially hold out for the biggest contract they think they can get. I guess what I'm saying is I think McClain is a maybe a safer, more logical pick (albeit not the sexy pick that Bryant is). And, everything I hear about him is that he is a football player first and foremost. And, I think that's exactly what we need, now more than ever. Just my $.02...
there is really no debate IMO..it has to be McClain, over Bryant.....however don't be surprised if they pick Dan Williams or move down.....
If it becomes an argument, sure. I honestly believe Parcells does not have as much influence as many think. Case in point, Vontae Davis and Pat White.
Bryant should be the obvious choice. Core position players have more impact and are harder to find. WR is a core position and ILB isn't. And while this should be obvious in a passing league, you also have Ireland's list of core positions which includes WR and not ILB. The only way McClain should even be a consideration over Bryant is if you believe he is an elite player on the Willis level. IMO he is clearly a step below as a prospect. He could still end up being great, but he has flaws compared to a Willis.
While I agree with you that it will be Ireland's call, I don't agree that Parcells wasn't on board with both of those selections. Davis fits Parcells' blueprint for size and run support ability and there were reports pre draft that Parcells was "intrigued" with White.
I don't see Bryant even making it to 12, and if his is there, and they pick him over McClain or Williams, shame on them...Pat White and Turner will scare off the FO of picking Bryant
I agree that he's unlikely to make it to #12 (I'd say there's about a 25% chance), but that's b/c he is a top 10 player. I don't agree that White or Turner have any relevance to whether Bryant is picked or not.
I agree 100% Finyank, you suggest that Bryant won't even make it to 12, but if some miracle he does, then we won't pick him? Sorry, either your logic is flawed, or my understanding of it is
okay I worded it wrong, I dont see Miami taking chances on a WR in the first round....that is the most hit or miss pick besides QB..what good is a wideout if the defense is broken...you still have to stop the opposite offense..a WR IMO is the last piece to the puzzle, once u have a good defense, o-line, qb, and adequate rb's..... now if Quan is traded for there's a difference, u are trading for a proven commodity, as opposed to taking a risk at 12...I say it over and over again 12 has to be a no doubt sure fire starter for years to come
i actually think its the other way around. I have to believe Parcells is the only guy who really wanted White.
You are trading for a player who was a proven commodity elsewhere. There is no guarantee he would be any more productive for us than a WR taken at #12. It may be less risky to trade for Boldin, but it's not like he's a no doubt sure fire thing himself.
Ireland already acknowledged that to get a #1 WR you usually have to spend a 1st round pick. And yes, it's a hit or miss position, just like QB, which has a similar success rate. But in a passing league you need WRs almost as much as QBs. WR is not the last piece of the puzzle, it's a core piece, again Ireland has already confirmed that is his belief as well.
it was said by some Sports Center guys that McClain wasnt even the best LB on there team there best LB went down early in the year
