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Lets Lay off Ferguson a Bit.

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by JimToss, Mar 7, 2010.

  1. JimToss

    JimToss Thank You Chad Pennington

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    I'm gonna look outside the box here with the Ferguson suspension.

    He had a "serious knee injury" last year on Nov 19th against the Panthers.
    I haven't heard anything of what the seriousness of it was except he had surgery.

    What if the only way Ferguson was going to get back on the field in time for next year was to rehab with Preformance enhancing drugs? (PEDS) If he wasn't going to be ready for week 1 he was probably not going to be signed by anyone. Maybe taking the PEDs, in which he failed the test for, was his only chance back into the league. PED's have long been documented as helping in injury recovery. To be honest I completely support them for this type of situation.

    Of course he would never come out and say this, but it may be the case. Preliminary reports do not show that he is fighting the suspension, only potentially trying to get it reduced. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

    So before everyone jumps on Ferguson, as many have already called him an idiot, take into consideration this many have been the only way for him to help the Dolphins in 2010.

    Of course this is all speculation, and has no sources behind it, only my logic. He may in fact be proven to be an "idiot."
    I just want to reserve a bit of judgment on a model player who may just be scrapping for a roster slot. Hate to see players end careers due to an injury.
     
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  2. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    I dont think it is unusual for players to us PED's to rehab, Fergie just got caught. Personally, I don't have a problem with what he did other then he got caught... :(
     
  3. Colorado Dolfan

    Colorado Dolfan ...dirty drownin' man?

    Too bad, so sad. "PEDs" are not allowed in the NFL for any reason. If Ferguson is in such dire need to play for financial reasons, that's on him. If he just wanted to play because he loves the game so much, he wouldn't have gone the PED route, because he should have had enough respect for the rules of the game.

    Either way, he knowingly broke the rules. He let down the team. Tough to lose him, but I say, good riddance. At least Porter just ran his mouth too much.
     
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  4. miamiron

    miamiron There's always next year

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    2ND TIME FOR fERGUSON...NO PITY FROM ME
     
  5. SCPhinFan

    SCPhinFan Junior Member

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    Its over anyway, with his injury, age, and UFA. Now that he is going to miss 8 games, at least the trifecta knows we need to go out and get a stop-gap NT instead of thinking they can rely on him for 15 plays a game.
     
  6. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    Cheater....loser!
     
  7. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    the guy was just trying to level the playing field from other "cheating" teams in the division:pointlol:
     
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  8. flynryan151

    flynryan151 New Member

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    I don't know why people are upset or even defending him. Lets face it at 36 and coming off a serious injury there was less then 50% chance he was coming back as a Dolphin, and even less chance he was able to play to the level we were used to. Just retire Jason and save some face.
     
  9. flynryan151

    flynryan151 New Member

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    So we talking about Calvin Pace or that entire crap team in New England? :hi5:
     
  10. JimToss

    JimToss Thank You Chad Pennington

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    If you think 75% of the NFL isn't on HGH you are living in a fantasy world.
    Of course Fergie wasn't caught for HGH, but both substances are "cheating."
     
  11. Ricky4Life

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    Hate to see his career end this way as I am sure the big Tuna feels the same way. But he is done.
     
  12. PhinsRock

    PhinsRock Premium Member Luxury Box

    This entire thread is a moot point IMVHO, at his age, with that injury, and now the suspension, no way he comes back to this team. So maybe we ought to just leave bad enough alone.

    No doubt in my mind he did what he did to try and play for the Dolphins and contribute to our success next season, not going to crucify the man for that!
     
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  13. bluehaze

    bluehaze New Member

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    Well before we all take the morale high ground, let us realize that it's pretty commonplace for doctor's to prescribe some type of steroids to aid the healing process after these type of surgeries. The older we get the more difficult it becomes to heal on our own.
     
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  14. Roman529

    Roman529 Senior Member

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    Good to know Ferguson will be back sometime in November for our playoff push!!!!!!
     
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  15. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    we already knew coming out of the 2009 season
    Ferguson had to be replaced
    need 2 starting quality NT's in rotation to run a 3-4
    nothing has changed accept for him
    he's been a stand-up guy & I wish him the best
     
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  16. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    I still haven't gotten over 1985 when they beat us in the AFC championship game to go and get killed by Da' Bears

    Marino & Co. spanked the Bears that year. I believe they were 12-0 and we hung 32 points on them in the first half. Vaunted defense my a$$.

    We would have won the superbowl that year had we made it:mad:

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  17. Whitedolphin54

    Whitedolphin54 From the land of legends Luxury Box

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    I've no time for guys who cheat, but he did fill a huge gap whilst he was here. It is such a huge part of the 3-4 Defense. We really need help at this position now, and cant expect Solai to do it all himself. It dont matter how good others are, if you aint got a good NT, everything else will collapse around you :yes:
     
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  18. late again

    late again Senior Member

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    Well I think your statements are a little bit misleading.
    First of all, not all steroids have anabolic properties.
    The type of steroid that is "commonplace for doctor's to prescribe" after surgery is typically an anti inflammatory called Methylprednisolone. This, by the way isn't a banned substance in the NFL, because it's not an anabolic steroid..
    The NFL has banned all anabolic steroids.
    Here's a list of the banned substances:http://www.prostaronline.com/bannedsubstances.html
    Actually your whole premise is pretty naive. The NFL has medical personnel who are able to make the determination as to whether or not a drug is necessary for a player to heal properly. Their rules and policy I'm sure reflect that.
     
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  19. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    most of us live in glass houses
    not big on moral judgements, especially in the NFL
    let he caste the first stone...
     
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  20. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    I think the OP was right, he just took them thinking they would help them recover, it was a stupid thing to do and now he's paid the price. He is too old anyway.

    Cam Thomas or Dan Williams would be a great replacement!
     
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  21. dolphan117

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    Do we really need to? After all, he has already been laid off for the first 8 games of the season. :shifty:
     
  22. Roman529

    Roman529 Senior Member

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    Ferguson was just trying to save his career and I bet each and everyone here would likely have done the same thing to try and keep their career going. There was no certainty Ferguson would even have made the team next year, so I look at this as an opportunity to improve the NT position, either through Free Agency or the Draft. We have neglected this area for too long, and Soliai is just a temporary fix. I think we should look at Dan Williams and Cam Thomas....we could easily trade down and still get these guys.
     
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  23. MikeHoncho

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    We can't lay off Ferguson. I don't know whether or not you can release a suspended guy.
     
  24. PhinsRock

    PhinsRock Premium Member Luxury Box

    We should be spending our time thinking who we can replace him with rather than judging him, lest we be judged ourselves.
     
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  25. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    Its the NFL players getting Dui's, manslaughter, drug dealing that i have no respect for he's more than likely trying to rehab not going for a high. To bad it's front page for the Dolphins.
     
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  26. funkdat

    funkdat New Member

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    A team would have to sign him before they can release him.................he's a free agent.
     
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  27. late again

    late again Senior Member

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    You really should come around more. It's been too long. How have you been?
     
  28. Your kidding right?
     
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  29. Colorado Dolfan

    Colorado Dolfan ...dirty drownin' man?

    The problem with this line of reasoning is this: I won't get fired from my job for using PEDs to speed my healing process. They don't test for it. I am allowed, indeed encouraged, to heal more quickly using any means necessary. In fact, I have been on a steroid regimen to heal after surgery. However, if my job security depended on me not using PEDs for any reason, you can be damn sure I wouldn't have.

    Yes, it sucks that Ferguson won't be with us... Yes, we need to improve the NT position and I hope we do so.

    Make no mistake, though, Ferguson brought this on himself, and for that reason, I have no sympathy for him.
     
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  30. funkdat

    funkdat New Member

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    Thanks.The draft is coming up so i'll be around alot more.
     

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