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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by PSG, Mar 14, 2010.

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  1. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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  2. finserg

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    Bill better get his head out of his @ss we need a Wr badly
     
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    rtl1334 New Member

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    Wide Receiver is a need but it pales in comparison to our needs at Free Safety, OLB and NT...well maybe equal to nose tackle. This team collapsed last season due to our defensive play. Our offense, especially with Henne playing, put up sufficient points to win - and this was often without Ronnie Brown. New England won three Super Bowls without a true impact number one receiver because there defense was among the best in the league.
     
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  6. PSG

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    I'm not sure he isn't a much better fit in a 4-3 (if one of our resident draft experts is around maybe they can answer that question for me).
    Maybe Jacksonville will take him at 10.
     
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    rtl1334 New Member

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    Jax may but they just signed Kampman a couple years after taking Harvey and Groves. That is a lot of picks and money tied up in one position. Having said that, they have the worst pass rush in the league...and maybe ever.
     
  8. pumpdogs

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    That was a very good read on the team except saying taylor is a defensive end.I really think without a threat on the outside we will be in third place this year again.Bill needs to realize it is not 1986 and build for the style of football that is played in todays nfl.
    Most wrs take about 3 years to become a #1.The question is does this regime have 3 years to develop somebody because I do not think that player is on the roster now.
    Take a chance and trade our #2 and a player for marshall then draft a olbs in the first round and we are contenders.
     
  9. Whitedolphin54

    Whitedolphin54 From the land of legends Luxury Box

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    We need a #1 WR, but also need 2 x OLB's, a FS, TE and a NT. My bet is still that we take an OLB with our first pick. We can still pick up a decent FS with our second or third pick, and then go from there. I guess it comes down to whether you prefer defense or Offense as to where guys will go with the first pick but that is my opinion.
     
  10. Pariah

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    WR is just as pressing as a need as the other places IMO.

    Miami was 15th in total points scored; 27th in Passing TDs, and tied for 1st in Rushing TD with Baltimore. Obviously an offense dominated by the rush, in a passing league. Keep in mind Baltimore felt the need to go after a top WR while having a great run game and very good defense

    Miami was 20th in Passing Yards, 24th in average yards per reception, 31st in plays over 20 yards, and 27th for plays over 40 yards.

    Without getting better with our passing attack we will remain mediocre in scoring points, which is sufficient enough, well...to keep us mediocre.

    You point to the Patriots yet you fail to mention how they had one of the best QBs in the history of the game at the helm, along with a stacked O-Line, and very good role players. The Patriots won for more reasons than just good defense.
     
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    We don't need two OLBs. I don't see that at all. They'll probably keep Anderson, Moses, Wake, bring back Taylor, and a STer in Walden. One more is all they need.
     
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    Whitedolphin54 From the land of legends Luxury Box

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    Possibly, but the point was that we have several needs, and that WR isn't necessarily the #1 need. I would certainly be looking for a WR, but think we have a more pressing need at OLB or FS. I know the draft is deep at these positions and could see us taking a WR with the #1 pick, but was just expressing my opinion :tongue2:
     
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    No that's fair to be sure, I just don't think they plan on two selections.

    Right now the team's needs include- SOLB, backup ILB, FS, WR, 3rd RB, NT and TE.

    If they can find a way to address three more before the start of the draft that would be excellent.
     
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    I still wouldn't be at all surprised if we took two LB's in the draft, but do agree with what you are saying. If we got a starting OLB and FS through the draft I would be ecstatic.
     
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    I don't think they'll even draft a FS. I think they'll start one of Clemons/Culver.
     
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    I chose not to mention...didn't "fail" to mention. This is because I see our QB, WRs and O-line closer to those NE counterparts than our defense. Yes even QB...not saying he'll have the career Brady has had but Henne appears to be on a similar career path. As stated, we are closer to those other positions than we are on defense. Although a top WR would be a nice luxury I don't recall a game where the lack of one cost us a win. I can count at least five games where piss poor defensive play directly cost us the game.
     
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    We will see m8. i have a sneaky suspicion they will :tongue2:
     
  18. Pariah

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    I am not interested in semantics, however I am interested in agreeing to disagree. I don't think we are anywhere near close to the Patriots were on offense right now.

    I like your attitude about Henne, and I am a big Henne guy, but to compare the career paths is a hard thing to do.

    As I said, I agree we need to get better on defense, but I fully disagree that our WRs didn't hurt our chances to win.

    Defensive failure is easy to quantify and point out. WRs not getting open and not getting separation, and even not being able to design many offense schemes that allows from more deep shots to spread the field, are things that you can't just point to like getting scored on. But in parallel to the defensive failures - these offensive woes went on almost every game.

    So I strongly disagree with our offense being anywhere near that of championship caliber, or one that is ready to make a strong run. What my frustration is (along with others) if you add a top WR and a stronger receiving TE, then we will be.
     
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    See here's my logic on this. Unless some kind of great opportunity arises with regard to the FS position, they may not view that FS they bring in as an improvement from Culver/Clemons specifically Culver. I do think that at some point, perhaps again the fifth round (they may trade down in the second I'm thinking and take Jimmy Graham/Taylor Price in a more appropriate range) they'll draft a FS/SS to backup Bell. They just don't seem to value the position like we think they do. Any position Miami tends to undervalue is something they approach in FA quite often. I just don't think that FS will be at the top of the menu and that doesn't mean we won't improve at safety. Gibril Wilson in pass coverage was actually complete garbage most of the year.

    Wild guess:

    1- Derrick Morgan
    2 (trade down)- Taylor Price
    3- Jimmy Graham
    4- Joe McKnight

    They'll probably draft a couple of NTs to compete in the late draft and call it a day. It's too bad they haven't made a couple more moves to add selections. Perhaps they trade Pennington to Pittsburgh soon.
     
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    Really nothing we didnt know....

    Not sure why he thought JT was a DE anymore?

    Our Wr's suck, not exactly breaking news.
     
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    I like your thinking [and draft choices], but am not sure i like either of the C's starting at FS. I do think that NT is critical to the success of a 3-4 D and like the fact that we would take on a prospect to back up what we already have in Solai, and later on in the season, Ferguson.
     
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    We may be forced to play one of the two Cs as a starter. We've really pidgeon-holed the team in that regard. They're going to have to do a terrific coaching job unless they find some way by the draft of acquiring some extra talent to fill holes. I know they expected Ryan Clark to be the guy and it's left them in a tougher situation.
     
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    The fact that they tried to sign Clark tells me they aren't really happy with what we already have, but I have to agree, we can only cover so many holes this season, and maybe FS is not one of them. If it were me though I would try and draft starters at SOLB and FS, and just hope we get a passing threat at TE or WR, and back up at NT. Like i said at the start I would be over the moon if we got a starting OLB and FS. If it were a OLB and WR, I would be happy, but not quite as much. If we could stop giving up those big plays on D we would be winning more than we are losing IMO.
     
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    Free Safety is IMO the clearest need on this team as we have no player with starter experience. As much as we have needs at those other positions, we at least have players with starting experience there. Wilson's play lead directly to two losses and if that position isn't upraded we may be in for another long season.
     
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    We need two more, a starter and a backup to mold.
     
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    We had no problem moving the ball last year, we tied the Colts for first with a 49% 3rd down ratio.

    Our main problem was stopping the other team when we had to and giving up big plays. A number of games that we lost we were winning them but then our defense failed.

    Add the problem with Henne throwing interceptions when we were trying to play catch up.

    So let's plug up our holes on defense in the draft (good start with signing Dansby) and getting a good TE.

    Then let's allow Henne to work his first off season and preseason as a starter with our young WR corp. And we need to get our running backs back.
     
  27. rafael

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    That number was inflated by our insane percentage in short yardage. We were one of the worst in the league when it came to converting 3rd and 7+. So I wouldn't agree that we had no problem moving the ball.
     

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